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  1. Вот такое вот епиоматеринство из года в год от народа который сам пережил Хололёд pukefacevi1.gif

    Ephraim Inbar, head of the BESA Center for Strategic Studies at Bar-Ilan University in Ramat Gan, who has written widely on the Israeli-Turkish relationship, said that while someone high up in the Turkish decision-making hierarchy has decided to "teach the Israelis a lesson," Ankara still needed Israeli influence in Washington to prevent the passage in Congress of a resolution declaring the killing of Armenians during World War I a genocide.

    Israel should "sit and wait" this year on this issue, Inbar said.

    "If they behave, we should help; if not, then while we should not actively work against them, we should let them know that there is a price for their misbehavior," he said.

    The Washington daily The Hill reported on Sunday that despite the signing of an historic agreement between Armenia and Turkey on Saturday, the perennial lobbying battle over the contentious Armenian Genocide resolution would continue.

    According to the report, Rep. Adam Schiff (D-California) intends to move forward with the resolution, one Turkey works hard every year to deflect. The non-binding congressional measure would recognize the killing of 1.5 million Armenians by the Ottoman Turks as genocide, and has proven over the years to be a red flag for Ankara.

    The Hill reported that despite Armenia and Turkey's gradual reconciliation, US lawmakers are still signing onto Schiff's resolution, and it now has 134 co-sponsors.

    Schiff, according to the report, said he was not sure when the measure would come before the House Foreign Affairs Committee for approval and then move onto the floor for a vote.


  2. 4. Затягивание Турцией процесса ратификации или выдвижение новых условий ратификации удостоится соответствующей оценки армянской стороны. Этими протоколами Армения не берет на себя какие-либо односторонние обязательства, не выполняет какие-либо утверждения. Армения подписывает эти протоколы с целью создания основ для установления естественных отношений между двумя странами.

    Следовательно, если Турция в разумные сроки не ратифицирует эти протоколы и после этого в установленные сроки не выполнит все их положения или нарушит их в дальнейшем, то Армения без промедления предпримет адекватные шаги в соответствии с международным правом.

    Кто-нибудь что-нибудь понял из этого ? thinking.gif


  3. “Alievs have forever remembered the bruising small and big stones of the mountainous paths of Zangezur, this grass, these trees and bushes saturating their hunger and giving them shelter. They were running away from Armenians. After long wanderings Nachijevan was like a Promised Land to them”.

    Хаи, у кого есть полная речь ОНЛ-оглы с саммита тюрков и крипто-курдов в Нахцыване

    повесьте здесь, плиз.

    А то у меня сейчас диафрагма лопнет smileeg7.gif


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    Маховик только начал раскручиватся.

    В будущем ожидайте усиления давления с целью раскола армянства на

    восточных: работяга озабоченый тем как заработать на кусок хлеба

    западных: дашнак-террорист, расист

    (Стратегия обкатаная на курдах.)

    Когда Эрдоган приехал в Бейрут местные хаи встретили его плакатами: Животные Здесь Не Велком

    Он потом полгода от возмущения кипятком писал.

    Между прочем много лет назад один западный хай пытался таки бомбануть мавзолей Мустафы Гомо-Педофила.

    Там охраны, правда, оказалось немерено. В форме и без.

    И все же фейрверк он им устроил такой что, как говорится, машалла.


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    Turkey repeats Azerbaijan condition to normalize Armenia ties

    PM Recep Tayyip Erdoğan’s remarks are being interpreted as the government’s return to its original position of linking the normalization of ties with Armenia to progress in talks between Armenian and Azerbaijani leaders under the direction of the Minsk Group. Erdoğan has called on Yerevan to act in compliance with universal rules of law.

    Turkey is still holding the settlement of the Nagorno-Karabakh dispute as a precondition for the opening of the Turkish-Armenian and Armenian-Azerbaijani borders despite the protocols signed late Saturday after three hours of last-minute negotiations.

    “We will not adopt a positive approach unless Armenia withdraws from the occupied Azerbaijani territory,” Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said in a televised speech Sunday.

    Erdoğan’s remarks were interpreted as the government’s return to its original position of linking the normalization of ties with Armenia to progress in the talks of the Armenian and Azerbaijani leaders under the so-called Minsk Group. Erdoğan said he had called Russian President Dimitri Medvedev and U.S. President Barack Obama to accelerate the negotiations between Yerevan and Baku. Russia, France and the United States are co-chairs for the Minsk Group.

    “If the process [of Armenian and Azerbaijani negotiations] speeds up, the ratification of the protocols with Armenia will also accelerate,” said the prime minister.

    The foreign ministers of Turkey and Armenia signed the historic accords to normalize their troubled ties after a three-hour delay late Saturday. The process will be followed by the protocols’ dispatch to the respective parliaments for ratification. Both the Turkish and Armenian governments are under pressure from their domestic oppositions.

    “If the Azerbaijani-Armenian dispute moves toward a solution, our public will want the normalization of the Turkish-Armenian relationship,” said Erdoğan. “In the same way, the ratification of the protocols in Parliament will be facilitated.” He said that public opinion in Turkey as well as Parliament would closely follow developments on the Azerbaijani-Armenian track.

    “We would like to establish good neighborly relations with Armenia in a real sense … Our expectation from Armenia is that it will comply with the universal principles of international law and let the Caucasus become a region where permanent peace, friendship, stability and prosperity reign,” said the prime minister.

    In a televised interview with Turkish Radio and Corporation, or TRT, Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu said Turkey would never abandon its regional ally Azerbaijan, adding that Turkey’s comprehensive peace with Armenia overlaps with Azerbaijani interests.

    “In parallel to this normalization [between Turkey and Armenia], we want all the normalization processes to accelerate. The diplomacy we are employing is in line with universal standards,” said Davutoğlu, who signed the protocols with Yerevan on behalf of Turkey. “We believe our position will accurately be understood by all our neighbors in the region.”

    The minister highlighted that Turkey would not want a poor country in its neighborhood, but “we also want our neighbors not to violate the rights of our other neighbors. Not only Karabakh but also the seven Azerbaijani districts adjacent to Nagorno-Karabakh are under occupation. That should come to an end.”

    In a statement, President Abdullah Gül said: "There will be difficulties from time to time but once the intention and the will are sound, a result is obtained. The result is the emergence of cooperation in the entire Caucasus and the resolution of all security issues."

    ‘Parliament to have final say’

    Davutoğlu said Parliament would have the final say over the future of the protocols signed with Armenia. “The final legitimate body is Parliament,” he said.

    Asked if he was waiting for a surprise decision from Parliament just like the rejection of the March 1 motion on the deployment of U.S. soldiers before the Iraq war, the minister said the government’s mission was to ensure the signing of the protocols and that Parliament would determine the subsequent process.

    “We, the government, want the protocols to pass through Parliament but they need to be submitted for approval in an appropriate psychological and political atmosphere,” said Davutoğlu, referring to the Azerbaijani-Armenian process.

    In response to another question on what Armenia would gain from the deals with Turkey, he said: “Turkey never abandons a country that has established relations with us. Armenia’s most important gain will be the friendship of a big state like Turkey. Armenia is now outside the regional equation in the Caucasus. If its dispute with Azerbaijan is settled, Armenia will be in the equation.”

    PM expects Sarkisian to visit Turkey

    In his speech, Erdoğan raised the expectation that Armenian President Serge Sarkisian would come to Turkey to watch the football match between the Turkish and Armenian national teams in Bursa on Wednesday. “There is still time until Wednesday but I strongly believe Mr. Sarkisian will come. Maybe they will make a decision at the last-minute. Our expectation is that he will come to watch the match, which will be meaningful after the signing ceremony.”


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    U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton basked in a glow of praise from her Nobel laureate boss on Saturday after spearheading successful efforts to salvage historic accords between longtime bitter foes Turkey and Armenia.

    President Barack Obama, who a day earlier was the surprise winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, telephoned Clinton in Switzerland to congratulate her on overcoming a last minute-hitch that threatened to scuttle the Turkish-Armenian deals, a senior U.S. State Department official said.

    Clinton was headed to the airport in the Swiss city of Zurich following an intense and frantic day of negotiations when she got the call from Obama, the official said. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the call was private.

    "He was very excited, he felt like this was a big step forward and wanted to check in," the official told reporters aboard Clinton's plane as she flew from Zurich to London, the second leg of a five-day tour of Europe and Russia. "He called to congratulate her and the team."

    "We had a good night in Zurich," Clinton said on the plane.

    For several tense hours in overcast Zurich, however, that was anything but a sure thing.

    Having come merely to witness Saturday's signing, Clinton instead became embroiled in a dramatic turn of events that began when both sides balked at signing agreements on establishing diplomatic relations and opening their sealed border after a century of enmity.

    Both had objections to language in statements each side wanted to read after signing the deals, concerns that burst into the open just minutes before the ceremony was to begin at the University of Zurich in the shadow of Switzerland's snowcapped Alps.

    Clinton's motorcade had just arrived at the venue when it abruptly turned around and returned to the luxury hotel where she had met separately earlier with Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian.

    There she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a new draft of the Turkish statement from the university to the hotel for review.

    After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued in the presence of Swiss and European mediators and the foreign ministers of Russia and France.

    About an hour later, Clinton and the others brokered a compromise under which no statements would be read at the ceremony.

    She said she had repeatedly impressed on the Turks and the Armenians that the agreements, known as protocols, that had been negotiated over months were too important not to be signed now. The protocols, she said, should speak for themselves without additional statements.

    "We just kept making our points," she said, referring to herself and the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon. "This needed to be done."

    "It's just what you sign up for," Clinton said of her role. "When you are trying to help people resolve long-standing problems between themselves, it is a very challenging process."

    To take effect the agreements must be ratified by the Turkish and Armenian parliaments and face stiff opposition in both countries, which have a particularly bloody history.

    The contentious issue of whether the killing of up to 1.5 million Armenians during the final days of the Ottoman Empire amounts to "genocide" is only hinted at in the agreement as is the matter of the disputed Armenian-occupied enclave of Nagorno-Karabakh in Azerbaijan.

    Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest Armenia's 1993 invasion of the territory.


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    Opposition parties have criticized an agreement signed between Turkey and Armenia on Saturday to establish diplomatic relations by describing the move a “step backward” in Turkish foreign policy.

    Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu and his Armenian counterpart, Eduard Nalbandian, signed an agreement in Zurich to reinstate formal ties and reopen a border closed since 1993, within two months of its ratification by both parliaments.

    Main opposition Republican People's Party (CHP) Deputy Chairman Onur Öymen told Today's Zaman that the protocol signed in Zurich is evidence that Turkey has taken a step back in its fundamental foreign policy regarding Armenia for the past 17 years.|

    Turkey was one of the first countries to recognize Armenia's independence in 1991, but the two countries never established diplomatic relations and sealed their border after the 1993 Armenian invasion of Azerbaijan's Nagorno-Karabakh.

    Indicating that a process of normalization with Armenia can only take place if Armenia withdraws from Azerbaijani territory, Öymen argued that Turkey had made unilateral concessions with the agreement. “There will be great pressure in Turkey following these signatures because the protocol texts include articles about Turkey opening its border and establishing diplomatic ties, but there is not even the slightest sign that Armenia will withdraw from the territories it invaded. There is not the slightest reference to the Nagorno-Karabakh dispute,” Öymen said.

    Nationalist Movement Party (MHP) leader Devlet Bahçeli said the day the agreement was signed was a “black day.” He said protocols signed with Armenia were not based on reciprocity and that they were not equal and balanced.

    Felicity Party (SP) leader Numan Kurtulmuş also joined the critics of the protocol, describing it a “historic mistake.” He said this issue first being handled in Parliament, which represents the will of the nation, was the necessity of democratic ethics. “The [Justice and Development Party] AK Party's concessive attitude under the cover of its ‘zero problems policy' not only undermines Turkish foreign policy, it also casts a shadow over Turkey's prestige,” Kurtulmuş said.

    In the meantime, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said Armenia's withdrawal from Azerbaijan's Nagorno-Karabakh would help gain his Parliament's approval for a peace accord signed between Turkey and Armenia. "We as a government paved the way for this cooperation, but whether or not it will be applied is up to Parliament to decide," he told a party congress in Ankara.


  8. Так они что ждали шоб ручка прикоснулась к бумаге прежде чем протестовать против включения

    в текст заявления что „Гарабах Бизимдир" и обязательства создания „рабочей коммиссии"

    для выяснения в какую сторону ушли армянские подданые османской империи и почему они больше не звонят и не пишит.

    У русских есть выражение: Из бзды и на равнину. Это про армянских дипломатов confusede.gif


  9. ^^^

    Так у них всегда так.

    ОНЛ-оглы вообще не каким местом не тюрок.

    Мать лезгинка, а папашка его героический был курдом.

    Зоологическим армянофобом, кстати.

    Про крипто-талмудистов из Солоник уже ничего не говорю.


  10. Амеры щас думают/гадают как им свалить из Афгана не потеряв лицо.

    Генералы бадают Барака Али-Бабаевича шоб он им войск подкинул, а он не в духе этого делать.

    Ну там общественный сентимент, то, другое, пятое.

    А насчет переброски грузов в Афган и т.д. - причем здесь вообще Армения ?

    Их возят по воздуху из Германии, Инджирлика и соотвественно через Россиию и средне азиатские станы.


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    МИД Азербайджана осудил подписание накануне в Цюрихе турецко-армянских протоколов о восстановлении дипотношений между Анкарой и Ереваном. В Баку напоминают, что Турция ранее из солидарности с Азербайджаном закрыла границы с Арменией.

    Министерство иностранных дел Азербайджана выступило сегодня с заявлением в связи с подписанием накануне в Цюрихе турецко-армянских протоколов по нормализации отношений, передает «Интерфакс».

    Анкара забыла о солидарности с Баку

    «Как мы неоднократно отмечали, определение отношений одного государства с другими является суверенным правом этого государства. Однако нормализация отношений между Турцией и Арменией до вывода армянских войск с оккупированных азербайджанских территорий составляет прямое противоречие с интересами Азербайджана и затмевает дух братских отношений между Азербайджаном и Турцией, построенных на глубоких исторических корнях», — говорится в заявлении МИД Азербайджана.

    В Баку считают, что открытие турецко-армянских границ в одностороннем порядке поставит под вопрос возможность построения мира и стабильности в регионе.

    При этом азербайджанское внешнеполитическое ведомства полагает целесообразным высказать ряд своих принципиальных соображений. В частности, позиция страны по указанному вопросу однозначна — Турция закрыла границы с Арменией в 1993 году в знак протеста против оккупации азербайджанских территорий со стороны Еревана и агрессии по отношению к Азербайджану.

    По мнению Баку, в результате конфликта 20% азербайджанских земель оккупированы, а жертвами этнической чистки оказались около миллиона граждан Азербайджана, которые стали беженцами и вынужденными переселенцами. Кроме того, напоминают в МИД Азербайджана, на оккупированных территориях было уничтожено историко-культурное наследие Азербайджана.

    «В течение этого времени Армения не придала значение многочисленным документам и резолюциям, принятым Совбезом и Генассамблеей ООН, ОБСЕ, ПАСЕ и другими международными организациями, которые осуждают агрессивную политику Армении, требуют вывода армянских войск с оккупированных территорий Азербайджана и возвращения беженцев на свои родные земли. В результате каких-либо подвижек в направлении устранения результатов этой агрессии не достигнуто», — отмечается в заявлении дипведомства.

    Азербайджанская сторона также опирается на заявления высокопоставленных официальных лиц Турции о невозможности открытия турецко-армянских границ до прекращения оккупации Арменией территорий Азербайджана.

    Клинтон покидает Цюрих

    Напомним, церемония подписания армяно-турецких протоколов прошла накануне. В Цюрихе были ратифицированы протокол «О развитии двусторонних отношений между Республикой Армения и Турецкой Республикой» и протокол «Об установлении дипломатических отношений между Республикой Армения и Турецкой Республикой». Подписи под документами поставили министры иностранных дел двух стран. Большую роль в достижении двустороннего прогресса сыграла глава Госдепа США Хиллари Клинтон, которая, по данным Reuters, в эти минуты покидает Цюрих.

    Армения и Турция договорились установить дипотношения со дня вступления в силу протокола в соответствии с Венской конвенцией от 1961 года и обменяться дипломатическими представительствами.

    Кроме того, будет открыта общая граница в течение двух месяцев после вступления протоколов в силу и начнутся регулярные политические консультации МИД.

    Искренняя радость Москвы

    На церемонии подписания документов присутствовал и министр иностранных дел России Сергей Лавров. Сегодня он назвал знаменательным событием вчерашнюю церемонию и заявил о готовности Москвы поддерживать процесс нормализации через дальнейшую реализацию проектов сотрудничества с Арменией и Турцией.

    «Мы стали свидетелями знаменательного события — между Арменией и Турцией подписаны протокол об установлении дипломатических отношений и Протокол о развитии двусторонних отношений, которые определяют последующие действия сторон по продвижению к всеобъемлющей нормализации межгосударственных связей», — говорится в комментарии главы МИД для российских СМИ.

    «Не буду скрывать — мы искренне этому рады. Армения и Турция — дружественные России страны», — подчеркнул Лавров. По его словам, «содержательная часть подписанных документов свидетельствует о твердой решимости обеих стран проделать свою часть пути». «Примечательно, что ни один из предусмотренных шагов не может быть истолкован как наносящий ущерб третьей стороне», — отметил российский министр.

    Он считает, что оздоровление отношений между двумя соседними государствами «приведет к оживлению торгово-экономических контактов, позитивно отразится на социально-экономическом положении и в Армении, и в Турции».

    «Первый шаг на пути нормализации отношений»

    «Российская Федерация готова поддерживать этот процесс через дальнейшую реализацию проектов сотрудничества с Арменией и Турцией, в первую очередь в электроэнергетической и транспортно-коммуникационной сферах. Российская компания ОАО «Интер ЕЭС» участвует в поставках электроэнергии из Армении в Турцию. ОАО «Российские железные дороги» готово обеспечить налаживание и функционирование бесперебойного железнодорожного сообщения между двумя странами через пограничный переход Догукапы-Ахурян. Есть и другие многообещающие проекты, которые позитивно скажутся на повседневной жизни людей», — заключил глава МИД.

    «Мы приветствуем прагматичную и деловую совместную работу армянских и турецких партнеров по урегулированию сложных вопросов. Сегодняшние договоренности — результат целенаправленных усилий армянского и турецкого руководства по сближению двух стран», — напомнил Лавров.

    Немалая заслуга в этом, по его словам, принадлежит и его коллегам — министрам иностранных дел Армении и Турции Эдварду Налбандяну и Ахмету Давутоглу.

    В Москве «ощущают твердый настрой вести дело к установлению добрососедских отношений между Арменией и Турцией, что объективно должно способствовать дальнейшим шагам, укрепляющим мир и безопасность в регионе», добавил Лавров.

    Он заключил, что подписание протоколов – «это первый шаг на пути нормализации отношений». Глава МИД призвал стороны «как можно скорее ратифицировать эти документы и приступить к их практической реализации».

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  12. FTFY

    Hayer jan Евреи придумали новую схему как срубить крупного бабла !!!

    Idet sozdanie blokov na kontenentalnom yrovne chtobi slits ix v edinoe gosydrstvo...

    Neverte v brexnyu vsiakyu pravie sili levie sili... One ves rabotauyt na Bankirov....

    Sovetyu vsem posmatrets Film na google video End Game i Obama Deception...


  13. он там выдвинул версию( а может и выдал информацию),что следующим и желанным шагом США,является создания грузино-армянской федерации!

    А я недавно читал в газете Вечерний Кюрдамир о том что Мехрибан хочет уйти от мужа ко мне bounce2.gif


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    По серьезному мубарак начнется когда турки масштабно зарулят на рынок Армении.

    Они уже продают хаястанским барыгам товар по схеме: реализуй-расплатись с поставщиком.

    Особче учитывая тот факт что товар у них лучше (хвала Аллаху за западное ноу-хау) российского зибиля который идет в Армению.


  15. In the end, neither Davutolgu nor Nalbadian made public statements.

    The delay left Solana, Lavrov and Kouchner waiting for more than two hours while the Americans met with the Armenians at a nearby hotel in what Reuters witnesses described as tense talks.

    Organizers of Saturday's ceremony, which capped months of negotiations, said plans to play Handel's soaring "Royal

    Fireworks" while the two ministers signed the protocol, were canceled at the last minute.

    A smiling Davutoglu and a stony-faced Nalbadian sat at a table to sign the deal. Once they had put their signatures on several pages, they stood up and shook hands to applause and exchanged hugs and handshakes with the other ministers.


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    Both, Davutoğlu and his Swiss counterpart were present in the salon of the university. However, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian were absent, opening the way for speculation that Clinton was trying to convince the Armenian minister to attend the ceremony.

    News reports said Clinton has abruptly returned to her hotel as the signing of the Turkish-Armenian accords was delayed at the last minute over the wording of final statements. The crisis stemmed from the two parties', Turkey and Armenia, attempts to interfere in the statements, it was reported.

    According to the speculation, Nalbandian wanted to refer in the statement to the 1915 killings of the Armenians at the hands of the Ottoman Empire by using the word “genocide,” considered as an attempt to relax the Armenian diaspora and the opposition in Armenia. The Turkish side, on the other hand, wanted to refer to the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict in the statement, something Armenia says has nothing to do with the normalization of ties with Turkey. NTV reported that the Turkish side renewed the text and handed it over to the US delegation.

    Before departing Istanbul, Davutoğlu gave closed-door press briefing. "I could not sleep last night. I am going to sign an accord which has historical responibility," NTV quoted him as saying early Saturday.

    In Istanbul, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said, “Armenian demands in time will be very important. We’ll not bend in the face of those demands.” Erdoğan assured that Turkey would not take any step that would leave Azerbaijan in difficulty.


  17. In Turkey Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions.

    "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdoğan told reporters.

    Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide.

    The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of World War I incidents. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations."

    That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies Armenian claims about the killings, contending the toll is inflated and those killed were victims of civil war.

    "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time."