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The point of discussion is not allways to solve the problem, the matter is to go further i mean. As you know there had been no negotiations between your and our nations in the past. There is a great wall between two countries. I only want to break it. I didnt see any discussion in the web that in any regular forum about this matter. Myand our only reason to open this topic is to share somethings, to start from somewhere, to make a start at least. For example how many of you can find an opportunity to discuss this with a Turkish man? I never discussed with an Armenian. At least we want to give both sides a chance. There are a lot of different kinds of materials written by sources , not Armenian, not Turkish, not Azeri. Even they say different things. The history is not a certain thing it is consumed of different thoughts of different sides. We are ready to critisize ourselves as well as you. Thats why we are here. As you can understand, there must be good knowledged and well English speaking man are needed to make discussion. I think a real-time discussion is to hard to make so i think that you can open a topic here and one of our members with a certain nick comes here and writes what we think. You discuss the matter in your forum and someone comes to our forum and post it to the topic that we open. The discussion may go between two sides not lots of people. And that makes discussion better i think.(this writing is my own words and thoughts, we didnt decided yet to make an offer) In our forum everybody is allowed to write everything they want obeying the rules of the forums( no curse, no law disregardence(must obey Turkish fundemental law,constitution)) no sorry, i only wanted to give an example that if your nick means demon it means nothing to me, the character and the thing you wrote is necessary not the nick or the meaning of the nick.(what does shenyatsi means?) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- its too late here i need to go now, tomorrow night i cannot come, but saturday night i am here. good night to all.

Sorry about being late, we are discussing to open topics about it. At first my real nick is Bloodlust(in other forums) and i am interested in roleplaying games especially if the subject is vampires. I had been using it through 8 years. I didnt even thought that it will be necessary so i shorted it and joined here. I cant even know your nicknames Maybe Shenyatsi = Demon (for example) you dont need to be paranoiac.(i dont mean to be rude but i think the nick cant be a matter) Shenyatsi you cannot teach me my history and i dont want to be taught by a foreigner(not about being Armenian, i dont even want an American or German or any other nation member). I only want to know the way you think, the way you are taught and take some steps further. i dont mean i will accept any genocide but i dont expect any of you accept that there hadnt been a genocide. Our thoughts are same to each other. You know the necessity and vulnerability of the problem, even our politicians cant come together in any table. Our administrators are trying to think all the things that can disturb you and us also. I told Shenyatsi that we are going to open a topic about this matter in our forum and asked if you can open one in your forum. If everybody is allowed to write about the matter, there will be a great chaos and we cant do any discussion, both sides start only blubbering and cursing. We are trying to make this even if there is only %1 hope to share some knowledges. To open topics like this doesnt mean that it will lead to a solution, sometimes even trying is a great move towards. We are trying to make the best offer we can make and listen to your thoughts about it. The topics must have strict rules, and any disobey must be deleted or punished immediately. we are trying to make the rules in our forumb I think this gives you an opinion that how serious we are. Thanks for your interest and thank to everybody who gave me an answer. With respects and best wishes. i am here approximately 1 hour i can answer your questions.

thanks for your share but i am not here to tell lies about us nor you. as i told i am not here to make a discussion. I have a very limited knowledge about this matter. I need to read a lot. But i made an offer to the moderator. As you understand i am only one man here with limited knowledge. smally i didnt understand what u have said but i changed the topic that a moderator came here.

i cant understand sorry:( but i can give you a flower too, flowers make no harm i think

thank you for the answer and yes i will try to answer your questions. But as you can understand i am only one person here and my answers are not a common thought, every nation has a lot of members thinking differently. - i dont have a lot of knowledge. I only read Turkish resources. That means i dont accept that any genocide had been made. Thats why i ask you to discuss this things. I couldn't find any really objective resource and i cant say anything about things that i am not sure. But i dont believe that any army under the command of Ataturk(founder of Turkish Republic) can make these things. So i regret any genocide without a trully made discussion between historicians and politics, and agreed with both sides. - i have no idea about Azeri war, but need to hear from both sides to make a conclusion. - i read a lot of things happened in 1974, and lots of Turkish people killed in cyprus. And as a result Turkish army landed and rescued the living ones. And let the Turkish people of Cyprus found their own republic there. At The vote of United Nations Annan project Turkish people of cyprus voted yes to make cyprus one country with two nations. - for now i dont believe Turkey is ready for european community. We have great way to walk, but we passed a great way too. I want Turkey to get ready to join EU but dont know how many years it take(in my opinion at least 3-4 years) - i cant see any relationship in year 2010, cause both politicians are too far from each other. But i think that somehow some steps are going to start to have a deal. I wish that there can be a way to make a deal. I hope that this answers can give you the impression that i am not a hostile one.

hey i got one answer at last:) i need to say something to a moderator. We have a forum and want to discuss the armenian problem (i am a turkish man) with the limits of respect and without any curse or swearing between to sides. I found your forum from google and its the biggezt armenian forum site i think. Thats why i come here to make an offer. There are a lot of problems in history between our countries. But i think the solution will come after communication. I am not here to make any curses or to disturb you. This is only a friendly call to share our knowledges and discuss the matters. I know both countries and people have great vulnerabilities in this matter. And have a very low tolerance to the other. And maybe this post will be erased after i wrote. But thoughts have to be shared without any fight. I know that there is someone that can answer my suggestion. with best wishes and respects.

i am really sorry but can i talk with a moderator or administrator? i cannot read your writing characters, and cant find a moderator. Please PM me:)