
takvor
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Kak master,Nazi Germany was under foreign occupation too, when it signed its capitulation in 1944. That doesn't make it less valid in the eyes of the international community. So please, don't insult our intelligence by giving us that crap.And, don't worry, it doesn't matter how many generations it takes, we'll get our land back. Deep inside, you already know it anyway.
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FYI, hereby the full version (translated to English) of the Treaty of Sevres http://groong.usc.edu/treaties/sevres.html Note: Armenia is "clearly" mentionned as one of the allied powers. That's why we all think this treaty's provisionned shold now be enforced, after Armenia recovered its independence in 1991.
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You're the only one who's laughing here. Actually, at then, you fellow Turcos were running head first , if I recall well.
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Like I said, land belongs to whoever takes it. And, that's exactly what our Artsakh fellow Armenians did. And, you'll see that in a near future, a peace treaty will be forced upon Azerbaidjan so return this land to its legitimate owner: Armenia.
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A Treaty is just a contract between parties, just like a sales contract for a house, as an example. It binds the parties from the moment it is signed on. However, a Treaty does not garantee anything about what might happen in the future.My point is, land belongs to whoever has the power to take it, and can force upon the weaker partie to sign a new treaty. That's exactly what happened after the Sevres Treaty was signed when the situtation changed and the Alexandropol Treaty was forced upon us both by Russia on one side, and Turkey on the other side. Russian Bolcheviks were looking for a durable peace with Turkey on the southern borders on the Russain empire for they were busy fighting Denekin's White Russians at home. That's why those stupid russian just gave away OUR land to the Turks, without a fight.Russians are sometimes so stupid. They contributed actively, at then, to make Armenia as weak and small as they could. Now, Armenia is the last ally they can really count on, and it's the smallest of the former Soviet Republics.
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You don't need todo ass kissing now, but when the EU admission dealine comes, your kind will do some ass kissing to EU govts.Similarly, when Armenia's economy develops, and Eastern Turkey's economy goes down due to the side effects of the blocade, you and your govt will pledge for closer ties with neighboring Armenia, and you all will do the ass kissing. For, this is what your culture is primiraly based on: kissing ass to foreign powers, and blackmailing. We've seen a perfect example of this during the Iraq crisis.Regarding your argumentation about Indians, this simply makes me laugh. Turk hords have tried to destroy an entire civilization that was at least 8 centuries ahead of theirs at the time. In the early XXth century our grandparents in the Armenian highlands lived in worse conditions than in the years 1200. Your kind has brought nothing. And people in Eastern Turkey, still live pretty much that way. Simply because, Turkey has no other wealthy minority or righer neighboring country to prey on.So, Indians are lost my friend because their culture was too behind at the time of American conquests, and they haven't made any progress.As for us, we are still superior to your kind in many respects. So, when the time comes, you will simply have to leave our land, to make space, or......
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Unfortunately, we all know here that you don't mean a single word of what you wrote, which is just politically correct phraseology learned by your kind in the Western world.The bottom line is, your kind continues to deny the most obvious, most documented, and first genocide of the century.There are many reasons to this, the main reason is that (1) "recognition", implies it follows with (2) "reparation" and (3) "restoration".So, after so long, it doesn't really matter whether or not the turkish govnt recognize the genocide or not, for we will go directly to Step (3) ourselves.Time is on our side, and we'll get our lands back, my friend.
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It's very interesting, rather funny I'd say, how you guys become very sensitive when Azeri-Turkish blood is shed, or when what you think as a Turksih land (I mean the Armenian Artsakh) is lost by your Azerbaidjani brothers. You now find yourselves in a situation that your Azerbaidjani brothers lost both lives and land. So, now you can share a commonicity of thought with us. You know how it feels. And, it just a start, my friend.
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Who do you ######ing think you are to pretend you can come to this site to challenge any Armenian with your stupid theories? None will provide you any answer to your preposterous thheories, for simply there's no challenge, Turco. Nobody will challenge any nazi-like theories of yours, and of the nazi-like Turkish govt. So, don't waste your time, you won't find any friendly ear that is naive enough to match up with your stupidity.
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Unforunately, Turkey missed the chance during the past 87 years of lies and negationism, to come out as a great nation, facing the hard truth about its darkest hours. Instead of having the courage of aopologizing, and asking for forgiveness, thereby opening for reconcialiation, it is getting deeper in lies, as time goes. Now, we have no other choice, than taking care of the problem ourselves. Just like we did with Talaat and Enver. Your goverments blew it! You can only blame yourselves.
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It's very weird this "need" that some people have to come on Armenian forums to spread their filth. It looks like they are "obsessed with us"! Abviously, 87 years after the genocide, they still miss us, or need us to justify their existance on this earth.Turks need an enemy to go forward. To support this fact, as soon as their joining EU was rejected for reasons that are understandable to everyone (Turkey doesn't meet the basic democratic and human right standards, by far), they tried to stir up their public opinion, by putting this failure on a purely religious factor, saying Europe is a Christian circle. Actually, they can only blame it on themselves. But, they are right about one thing. Europe is circle of Christian, civilized nations, that Turkey cannot pretend be a member.Actually, I think Armenia may very well join EU, BEFORE Turkey does. For, WE are both "ethnically and culturally", Europeans.
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What is Turkey? Just a worm in the fruit.It doesn't belong to Europe (it has problems with ALL of it's Eastern Europe neighbors), and it doesn't belong to Asia either. Even the neighboring muslim countries like Irak, Syria, and Iran, cannot find a way to have freindly relations with Turkey.Why is that? Because, the Turk nomades, are just what they have always been, "nomadic tribes" from the central asian desert. A people, without a culture, that is striving on lootting the lands of other people.They prove the beligerent behavior, right now, as they are readying themselves to conquer Northern Iraq. Peace is just words, in Turkey. The FACTS prove their beliquous minds.to conclude, the entire Turkish land doesn't belong to Turks.And, we'll make sure that the Armenian lands will be restored to their legitimate owners. Artsakh (formerly Karabagh) is just a start.
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Some people that are posting in this forum seem not to know (or maybe pretend not to) that the Turkish govt officials like Talaat and others that planned and carried out the Armenian Genocide were put on trial by a Turkish court in 1919 for the above crimes.They were sentenced to death penalties, which were later on never carried out, therefore, we had to do it ourselves (“Nemesis Operation”).Moreover, the notion of “crime against humanity” that is widely used right now throughout the world, appeared and was first used to “specifically describe the crimes against the Armenian people in the Ottoman empire.” That’s the first time this term was used, and it is equivalent to the later term of genocide. So, there’s no doubt about that, in anybody’s mind.Finally, any land on this planet, belongs to whoever takes it. And, there’s no doubt that we’ll take our land back, one way or the other (peacefully through mutual agreement, or by force, when the time is right.) Time is on our side. This may take centuries, but I’m confident that our descendents will in a not-to-far future get the chance to live in the land of Van, Erzerum, Kars, …. We are working on it.
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What is Kurdistan?It's pure invention of the Western community. There's never been such country in the history.Meanwhile, Western media are brainwashing there viewers, promoting the Kurd people and their pseudo-democratic Kurdistan.I hope there'll never by ANY Kurdistan with a land w/ oil resources. A land that could be larger than Armenia!?That would be so unfair to Armenians after what we all know about the Kurds participating ACTIVELY in the Armenian 1915 Genocide.When Iraq blows up, and Turks invade Northern Iraq, that may be the Kurds turn. Then, maybe they'll learn the lesson (the hard way) of what it costs to cooperate with the Turkish murders in 1915.What goes around, comes around.