The Extortion System Of The Ruling Elite

[Libertas]

Dami i Gospoda ochen sovetyu vam vsem prochetats ety knizhky...

The Extortion SYSTEM of the Ruling Elite

by...Francis Robert Thomas Hay

http://freedomfiles.org/extortion.pdf

[Sir Christopher]

Dami i Gospoda ochen sovetyu vam vsem prochetats ety knizhky...

The Extortion SYSTEM of the Ruling Elite

by...Francis Robert Thomas Hay

http://freedomfiles.org/extortion.pdf

Надеюсь вы заметили как я прокомментировал ваше упоминание мыслей Президента Вильсона:

http://forum.hayastan.com/index.php?s=&amp...st&p=905745

ваш прежний текст перенесли в Оффтоп, но его весомость от этого не снизилась.

И об оборотной стороне Большой Печати США в этом контексте:

http://forum.hayastan.com/index.php?s=&amp...st&p=905746

Вы наверное уже успели заметить, что эти книжки как правило на находят реакции в обществе. Видимо на то есть технические причины.

Есть мнение, что основная масса людей на самом деле лишена Свободной Воли, хотя на первый взгляд этого не скажешь, т.е. есть чисто технические причины. Дело в том, что наш мир просто устроен совсем по другому в то время как в школах и университетах это дело абсолютно не афишируется.

Если вы уже успели заметить как правило люди не реагируют на то, на что им реагировать не положено. Когда вы поймете это вам будет легче воспринимать окружающую действительность.

Edited March 13, 2010 by Sir Christopher

[Libertas]

Надеюсь вы заметили как я прокомментировал ваше упоминание мыслей Президента Вильсона:

http://forum.hayastan.com/index.php?s=&amp...st&p=905745

ваш прежний текст перенесли в Оффтоп, но его весомость от этого не снизилась.

И об оборотной стороне Большой Печати США в этом контексте:

http://forum.hayastan.com/index.php?s=&amp...st&p=905746

Вы наверное уже успели заметить, что эти книжки как правило на находят реакции в обществе. Видимо на то есть технические причины.

Есть мнение, что основная масса людей на самом деле лишена Свободной Воли, хотя на первый взгляд этого не скажешь, т.е. есть чисто технические причины. Дело в том, что наш мир просто устроен совсем по другому в то время как в школах и университетах это дело абсолютно не афишируется.

Если вы уже успели заметить как правило люди не реагируют на то, на что им реагировать не положено. Когда вы поймете это вам будет легче воспринимать окружающую действительность.

Sir Christopher ya eto davno znauy... Izachauy eto vso kak minimym desats let...

Osnovnaya massi lydei sploshnie ovsti leshini svobodno mislits....

[Libertas]

[Libertas]

Sir Christopher eti knizhki nyzhno obezatelno prochetats...

How the world game of economics really works - watch this video for the basics...

http://sovereign-souverain.blogspot.com/20...-game_1232.html

Hazardous Material - How it all works

http://www.scribd.com/doc/26415787/Hazardo...ow-it-all-works

The Babalonian Woe

http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/the...ylonian_woe.pdf

Edited March 13, 2010 by Libertas

[Libertas]

Надеюсь вы заметили как я прокомментировал ваше упоминание мыслей Президента Вильсона:

http://forum.hayastan.com/index.php?s=&amp...st&p=905745

ваш прежний текст перенесли в Оффтоп, но его весомость от этого не снизилась.

И об оборотной стороне Большой Печати США в этом контексте:

http://forum.hayastan.com/index.php?s=&amp...st&p=905746

Вы наверное уже успели заметить, что эти книжки как правило на находят реакции в обществе. Видимо на то есть технические причины.

Есть мнение, что основная масса людей на самом деле лишена Свободной Воли, хотя на первый взгляд этого не скажешь, т.е. есть чисто технические причины. Дело в том, что наш мир просто устроен совсем по другому в то время как в школах и университетах это дело абсолютно не афишируется.

Если вы уже успели заметить как правило люди не реагируют на то, на что им реагировать не положено. Когда вы поймете это вам будет легче воспринимать окружающую действительность.

Christopher oni neriagiryut potamychto nad nimi rabotauyt serioznie organizatsii po promivanuy mozgov kak Tavistok Institute etd... etd...

They create your reality and sell it to you trough media and other outlets of mass mind control...

[Libertas]

In The Beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth...

And evil people created Persons.

The word Person comes from the Latin word

Persona, which means mask.

A Person is a fiction entity in an imaginary world.

It does not and can not exist in the real world, w here you and I live.

A PERSON has 2 attributes, both of which are hearsay,

which are a Name and a Birth Date.

Law books have skewed the definition to include corporations as being a Person,

is the crux of the Fraud and the truth of the illusion.

A Corporation can not be a living m an m ale or fem ale created by God. A hum an being is not a living m an m ale/fem ale created by God, hum an means Color of m an and thus is not the species of m an of God. Corporations exist in an imaginary world, we God do not.

The idea of there being natural or artificial Persons in relation to a living man male of God is a fraud for a Natural Person is a person, thus a fiction with some fictional attributes.

It is also important to note that a m an created m ale or fem ale by God is only a reference point from the King Jam es Bible, in terms of LAW franchised from the BAR in THE CITY OF LONDON this is the best way to describe ourselves in relation to that fraud, for they m ake use of the King James Bible, although it is truly the Torah and the Talmud, but we’ll get into that later.

[Libertas]

The other factor involved here is that the world revolves on Commerce.

Commerce is a form of warfare,

thus love is not possible within Commerce

only winners and losers.

This game called Commerce is played in an imaginary world,

thus the people who created the scheme benefit

the most as they control the money.

More exactly they can print as much money as they want too

to achieve outcomes that are good for them and bad for us,

remember this is a war that is going on and it is being raged

against innocence and man created male and female by God.

On a spiritual and physical level they somehow may think

that they can wash their hands of the enormity of the crimes

that they are committing because it all takes place within a fictional world and the dumb people are falling for the trickery.

Once you begin to open your eyes to how this war is being played out,

it becomes easier to stick your head in the sand rather than watch the horrific calculated battles taking place on a daily basis.

However if we are ever going to be free we many of us to be leaders and begin saying no to their games until there are no games.

When we say no there is no game, no more war.

Edited March 13, 2010 by Libertas

[Libertas]

Sir Christopher

Take a look at this clips. Very interesting trust me...

John Harris - It's an illusion Part 1/5

[Libertas]

The following is universal, it applies to most all countries.

Here's how the Loans Scam works

(And why you should NEVER feel sorry for Banks and so on)

(Based on the work of Robert-Arthur: Menard, Mary-Elizabeth: Croft and (to some extent Winston Shrout and Irene-Maus: Gravenhorst), and John R. Dempsey of Sovereign Trust. I've just tried to reduce it to absolute fundamentals)

1) Banks: They take deposits. These are held in trust for the depositor. They must, by law, always be prepared to return any and all deposits back to depositors on demand. That's the LAW. They would not be able to do that if they were ever to lend out any money on deposit to anyone requesting a loan. They cannot, therefore, lend or invest anything entrusted to them. So the question is: Where do they get the money from, in order to loan it to you?

2) Loan Companies, Credit Card Companies, Building Societies: They don't take deposit money anyway (I'm talking about the 'older version' of Building Societies before they became banks. I'm referring to the way they would just issue mortgages. Their 'banking' activities are controlled as in (1), above). So the question is: Where do they get the money from, in order to loan it to you as a mortgage?

Leave that question pending for a moment.

3) What is a cheque? Paper, printing ink, somewhere you can hand-write a Payee, and Amount (in numbers and words), a Date, and somewhere to write your signature.

4) What is a Loan Application/Agreement? Paper, printing ink, somewhere a Payee will be written (the name of the Loan Company), somewhere for an Amount (in numbers and words), a Date, and somewhere to write your signature.

Do you see any similarity between (3) & (4)?

A Loan Agreement is a cheque. (Cheques can be written on anything ... even toilet paper ... provided it contains the essential information so as to enable correct clearance processing)

You send off the Loan Agreement to the Loan Company ... and they CASH YOUR CHEQUE! They cash it with an organisation that has the power to issue 'money' for that purpose (for example the Treasury, or the Bank of England, etc)

NOW THEY HAVE THE MONEY, IN CASH, TO LEND TO YOU!

Simple. Wasn't it?

But wait! Sure, they provided the 'service' of converting your cheque into funds within an account you can drawn upon (write other cheques against, use a Credit Card against, etc). And they could do that because they knew how to do that. And yes, that was a service. And yes, they should be paid a fee for that service.

But wait again! What is their 'fee'? Their 'servicing fee'?

Oh ... only THE ENTIRE AMOUNT OF YOUR ORIGINAL CHEQUE, PLUS INTEREST!

That's all they ask for .. in order to provide the original service!

How to do they ensure they collect this 'service fee'. By giving you a Payment Book! And they make sure they cream off the INTEREST, before applying the remainder as PAYMENT. In fact they even cajole you into never-ending INTEREST by specifying a minimum payment equal to the INTEREST they want. (Knowing full well you'll often opt for that, thereby allowing them to roll the whole thing on endlessly)

Now let's view this another way.

If you write a cheque for £100, and send it to someone else (the Payee), and they cash it - DO YOU EXPECT THE BANK TO DEDUCT ANOTHER £100 PLUS INTEREST - FOR ITSELF - AS WELL?

No? You don't when you write a cheque you 'see' as a cheque do you?

Well, then, why should they do that just because you can't 'see' a Loan Agreement as the cheque it actually is?

MONEY IS CREATED WHEN YOU SIGN A PIECE OF PAPER AGREEING TO PAY.

AND THAT'S THE ONLY WAY MONEY IS -EVER- CREATED.

Your 'promise to pay' creates money. Yours, and everyone else's.

So what -should- happen, then?

What should happen is that you write out a cheque - promising to pay - and send it to the Treasury yourself. They would then 'cash' it (in the same way they do that for a Bank), by updating an account with the amount you specified, from which you can draw funds as you need them.

That's it. Your 'promise to pay' stands until the end of time. That's all money is. A 'promise to pay', which stands until the end of time.

All money. "All thee bits of it".

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=M68GeL8PafE

Check out a Banknote. What does it say? "I promise to pay the Bearer on demand the sum of so-many-pounds". And signed by the Governor of the Bank of England (in the UK). A banknote is a Promissory Note - just like a cheque or Loan Agreement or any other IOU. An IOU that stands until the end of time.

What should a Bank do? It should simply accept the 'cash' from the Treasury, and operate the account for you.

And claim a reasonable - SMALL - fee for providing you with this convenience.

If you agree to some of your funds being invested, the bank should deduct their fees as commission, and not bother you with any other 'charges' at all.

THIS IS WHERE WE NEED TO GET TO. To be able to convert your SIGNATURE directly, without any Bank or Loan Company intervening.

And now for something completely different

When you sent them your cheque (aka Loan Agreement) and they cashed it, they could have just walked away with your money. If they'd done that, you wouldn't have known any difference.

They could have just written to you and said "Sorry, we didn't approve this loan, after all"

You would have been miffed at not getting the loan but, on the other hand, slightly relieved you didn't have the payments hanging over you, believing that the whole thing was 'dead'.

Dead? They were 'up' by the amount of the loan! And you were empty-handed! And you had given them that amount!

Dead? I should cocoa!

No. They are greedy, greedy, greedy, greedy. They want INTEREST. Never-ending INTEREST. They POSITIVELY HATE IT when you pay off a loan. Have you noticed? Try getting a loan, and then paying it back immediately. TRY IT.

No. They can lend you your own money, and then claim it back PLUS INTEREST, if they don't just walk away.

That's why they don't just walk away.

Every loan taken out generates money for them. Generated by your payments back.

That's where banks (etc.) get their money from. All they need to do is to make as sure as possible you've fallen for this SCAM sufficient times in the past, so as to be pretty sure you'll fall for it again.

If you 'default' on payments, they had ALREADY BEEN PAID IN FULL RIGHT AT THE START. They took the risk with it. Exactly the same risk as when they invest anywhere. If prices go down, they simply lose, write off the experience, and try elsewhere. Do they send bailiffs if 'prices go down'? Err ... no.

They 'involve' themselves when (as explained above) they have no need to be. The risks of doing so are, therefore, entirely theirs, and consequently there is absolutely no need to feel sorry for them.

YOU, on the other hand, don't owe ANYTHING to ANYONE.

What YOU did was to 'make some money' - and then spend it the way you wanted to spend it.

And why not? 'Money was made' by you SIGNING a cheque and thereby 'promising to pay'. I repeat, that's the only way 'money is ever made'.

They were the ones who jammed their oar into that simple mechanism.

And now for something that gets really silly

Mortgages. The method for obtaining the cash amount is the same as described above. But there is more to mortgages that meet the eye. (More, over and above, straight loans).

Here a property, in the form of a dwelling, is being transferred from one owner to another (actually one keeper to another, not owner, but that's another subject).

Now, it is illegal to mortgage a property you don't own. The property is considered to be the security on the loan. How can you be providing 'security' when you don't - at that time - actually own the thing?

And, secondly, it is illegal to transfer a property/dwelling that has not yet been paid for.

So ... what does this mean? You can't establish a loan, because you don't have any security to offer. Therefore you can't pay for it, because you can't get the loan money. (Err ... no. You can't offer you current home as security, because you are probably in the process of selling it!) And, since you can't pay for it, the Seller can't transfer it into your name.

But ... on the other hand ... people can and do establish mortgages, do buy homes, and do move house.

How is this done?

Well ... it happens by 'magic'. The Bank/Building Society uses 'magic'.

Not really paranormal 'magic', of course ... more akin to fraud, in actual fact.

John Dempsey, of Sovereign Trust, explains in absolute detail how the Magic Bank operates:

http://www.freewebs.com/debtfreesovereign/

(Sovereign Trust, btw, don't employ any form of magic/fraud. They do it honestly, openly, candidly, and all above board)

[Libertas]

DISCLAIMER

THIS IS A PRIVATE COMMUNICATION

THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC COMMUNICATION

Nothing contained within this THREAD should be construed as legal advice. I'm just sharing some of my experiences with like-minded people that have an interest in this topic. If you need legal advice, contact a competent attorney, if there is such a thing.

Good luck to you,

How to get out of Debt (the simple DIY Method)

Whenever you receive a demand for payment from a Bank, Building Society, or Loan Company, all you need to do is to respond correctly, the drift of which is to request them to provide three things:

1. Validation of the debt (the actual accounting), and

2. Verification of their claim against you (a sworn affidavit or even just a signed invoice - signed is important!), and

3. A copy of the contract binding both parties.

Write to say you would be happy to pay any financial obligation you might lawfully (important word!) owe as soon as these three documents are received.

They can't validate the debt because they never sustained a loss.

They can't verify any claim against you - as a flesh and blood human being with a living soul - they will be attempting to talk to your legal fiction NAME.

They can't produce a copy of the contract because a lawfully binding one doesn't exist.

What exists is an unenforceable unilateral contract.

What they refer to as 'your contract with us' is not a valid, bilateral, agreement - since the four requirements of a lawful, binding contract were not met on the Credit Card (or whatever) 'application', namely:

1. Full Disclosure (we are not told that we are actually creating the credit with our signature), and

2. Equal Consideration. They bring nothing to the table, hence they have nothing to lose. ("Consideration" means 'something of value', e.g. money, or an item of value - something they are trading for your signature/promise - something they have to lose), and

3. Lawful Terms and Conditions (they are based upon fraud), and

4. Signatures of BOTH Parties/Meeting of the Minds (Corporations can't sign because they have no Right, or Mind, to contract, because they are soulless legal fictions)

Credit Cards and Loans are win/win for them, and lose/lose for everyone else - it is the slickest con game on the planet. But you have to know, and realise all this. If you don't they will steamroller you. They will try every trick in the book, because it is their life-blood.

Stick to your guns.

ENSURE THAT EVERY LETTER YOU SEND CLEARLY STATES "Without Prejudice", which means that you reserve all Rights in law, and yield to no contract unless it is lawful by virtue meeting the four conditions above.

Conditions (1) and (2) can never be met. Simply because they never have any money to lend in the first place.

Banks are not allowed, by law, to lend any Depositor's money. Loan Companies do not have any Deposits anyway. Therefore they can only ever lend what you gave to them in the first place, based on your signature on the Loan Application.

THEY LEND BACK TO YOU - WHAT YOU GAVE TO THEM - VIA YOUR SIGNATURE/PROMISE!

They will get the message, because they know they are operating fraudulently.

If you do (somehow) end up in court

You will be asked your name, or whether you name is <whatever> … e.g. Veronica Chapman. The correct reply is "If I tell you my name, will I have a contract with you?" If the answer is "No", then you say "I'm a flesh and blood human being, with a living soul, and commonly called Veronica" (Obviously substitute your own Given Name - or use mine which would constitute a fraud … your choice). If they continue to use your legal fiction NAME (e.g. 'Ms. Chapman'), do your best to ignore it, until they make it clear they are addressing you, and then repeat "I'm sorry, were you addressing me? I'm commonly called <whatever>".

If the answer is "Yes" then you can say "Then you need to provide me with FULL DISCLOSURE, some CONSIDERATION, the LAWFUL TERMS AND CONDITIONS, and we would both need to SIGN. Is that not so?".

Either way, you would be seriously looking at "Case Dismissed"!

If they threatened 'Contempt of Court' (a trick they often use), then the response is "Is that CIVIL or CRIMINAL contempt?".

DO NOT SAY ANYTHING ELSE UNTIL YOU RECEIVE AN ANSWER. (Do not be sucked into filling in 'empty silence').

If the answer is "Criminal", then the response is "Who makes the CLAIM, what is the CRIME, and who is the INJURED PARTY?". If they say "The COURT makes the CLAIM", the response is "You know that the court is not a human being, and that only human beings, blessed with a living soul, can make a CLAIM!".

If the answer is "Civil", then the response is "Please explain the CONTRACT. Will you provide FULL DISCLOSURE, what is the CONSIDERATION, and will you provide the SIGNATURE of a human being with a living soul?"

There are other things you can say to them that will nullify their pretentious ways, the ones outlined above are just one approach.

__________________

[Libertas]

American Capitis Diminutio Rights:

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