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ObjectiveHistorian

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  1. Why nobody talks about peace and solidarity in this region. Is it a forgotten term there? I want to hear more about some hope in this part of the world. Why everybody is so preoccupied with the past, with hatred against each other. Is there going to be a day when one can be able to sit on a table side by side with Serbs, Bosnians, Bulgarians, Armenians, Greeks, Turks and Iranians and tell the common jokes, sing common tunes without thinking about the bad memmories just looking with smile and hope to the future. Any optimists around???
  2. Guys, we need to move on and try to facilitate our relations with our neighbors including Turkey. If you look in the culture we have many common things with this nation and most inportant one the history. It is true that we had survived very bad events especially in 1915. But before that let's remember that we were privileged ethnicity in Ottoman Turkey and we had relatively good life. Every normal person in current Turkey of course would accepts that what happened in 1915 was very bad unacceptable unhumane thing. Forget about everything only the idea of deportation is bad enough to be unacceptable as a solution for preventing the national movement of Armenians. Yet using the word "genocide" for describing these vents seems very "strong" to today's Turks. Of course, the rulers of the time are guilty for everything they have done. But implying the word "genocide" to condemn a whole nation seems unacceptable by most of the modern Turks. Because, there has never been a hatered against Armenians in Ottoman period until the uprise of Armenians in the beginning of 20th century. And that is because as everybody would expect a reflex reaction to something unexpected. Turks were not as shocked by the efforts of Greek or Bulgarians to liberate as the Armenian movement mostly because as everyone knows they were proclaimed "milleti-i sadika" (Loyal nation) by the Ottoman authority for centuries. They were able to get very high ranks in the Ottoman hierarchy. Most of the famous Ottoman composers were Armenians. That's why the Armenian uprise was cosidered more like a betrayal by the Ottomans. Especially, affter the relation of Armenian patriots with Russians became more evident. But may be another solution for Armenians was not present who knows. So, even liberation movement can be accepted by most of the people as a natural right especially after the nationalism has been put in the stage at the end of 19th century we shouldn't forget that a ruler would do everything to keep its country united and would use force if needed as all the rulers would do. So both sides had their rightful motives for action in this unfortunate time. And that conflict lead to the awful events that everybody knows. But let see today we are 90 years away. And we are still discussing the same things and we would insist with hate and anger about the things that wouldn't change anything any more. That thing would only prolong our own problems in the region. Look at our region - we are isolated, we are stuck in our own chians of hatered. Time to move on and do good things for our nation right now and for the future. Let's get rid of the bad memories that brings us in a vicious cycle of hatered. Don't forget get lessons, but don't forget that even lessons last for 45 mins at school then you go and learn something else.
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