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Financial Aid For Students of Armenian Descent Armenian Allied Arts Association Mr. Morris Sabbagh Tel: (213) 962-6408 3063 Dona Marta Drive, Studio City, CA 91604 Fax: (213) 962-5878 Eligibility: Although scholarships are not granted, financial awards are offered through an annual arts competition. Competition categories include: art, literature, drama, poetry, instrumental music, vocal music, and music composition. Age eligibility varies with the area of competition, but in general there are children, junior and senior categories. At least one parent must be of Armenian descent. Participants do not have to be U.S. citizens. Terms of Award: $50 to $1000 depending on age and area of competition. Deadline: Applications available by November; must be submitted prior to April. Armenian American Citizen’s League Mrs. Dorothy Deradoorian. Co-Chairperson Educational & Scholarship Fund P.O. Box 14, Moorpark, CA 93020-0014 Eligibility: Must be permanent residents of the United States who have been living in California for at least two years and are enrolled full-time in an accredited college or university. A minimum GPA of 3.0 (B average) is required. Awards granted on the basis of grades, need, and involvement in school and community activities. Students from Armenia are eligible, but only if they meet the above criteria. Applications will be judged on scholastic achievement, financial need and community involvement. Terms of Award: $500-$1,500; renewable. Deadline: February 1. Armenian American Medical Association Dr. Edward Karian, Chairperson Dr. John Sarian, Co-Chairperson 324 Common Street 8 Odessey Way, Andover, MA 01810 Watertown, MA 02472-4940 Tel: (508) 475-6197 Eligibility: Open to students enrolled in a U.S. medical school; primarily intended for students residing and studying in a private New England medical school. Others should not apply. Awards granted on the basis of need, merit, and involvement in Armenian cultural affairs. Students from Armenia, who are accepted to a private medical school in New England, are eligible for this scholarship. Students from other countries cannot apply. Terms of Award: $1,000-$2,000. Annually, 2 to 3 scholarships available. Deadline: September 15 – October 20, using only the Associations application forms, mailed on request. Armenian American Pharmacists’ Association Susan A. Krikorian, Chairman of Scholarship Committee Department of Pharmacy Practice 179 Longwood Avenue, Boston, MA 02115 Eligibility: Awarded to students of Armenian descent, pursuing a baccalaureate of pharmacy, doctor of pharmacy, or graduate degree program at a College of Pharmacy in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, Connecticut, or Rhode Island. The award is based on academic excellence and/or financial need. The scholarship is given for one academic year to a full-time pharmacy student. Terms of Awards: Amount of scholarship is determined by the Scholarship Committee, depending on the sums available in the Scholarship Fund. Deadline: September 15 Armenian Cultural School Association Mr. Harout Karakashian 1184 Ocean Avenue, Elberon, NJ 07740 Armen H. Bululian Scholarship Eligibility: Graduating high school and/or enrolled full-time undergraduate students in an accredited college or university. Applicants must be residents of Monmouth or Ocean Counties in New Jersey. The selection criteria include scholastic achievement and involvement in community services. Family financial status is not considered. Terms of Awards: $1,000 Deadline: June 30 Armenian Educational Foundation 600 West Broadway, Suite 130, Glendale, CA 91204 Tel: (818) 242-4154 Richard R. Tufenkian Memorial Scholarships Eligibility: Students of Armenian descent demonstrating financial need. Applicants must provide service to the community by involvement in Armenian organizations and/or activities and be full-time students in their junior or senior year of undergraduate studies at an accredited California college or university. Terms of Award: Six scholarships of $2,000 Deadline: April 15 Hurad Van Der Bedrosian Memorial Scholarship Eligibility: Graduate students in Armenian studies at universities with an established Chair in Armenian studies. Must submit application form, transcript, curriculum vitae letter from Chairholder. Applicants must be U.S. citizens. Terms of Award: Two scholarships of $3,000 Deadline: April 15 Sophia Hagopian Memorial Fund Eligibility: The same as Tufenkian scholarship Terms of Awards: Varies Georgian Memorial Scholarship Eligibility: Is established for students who consider study either at Haigazian University in Beirut or at any University in Armenia. Terms of Awards: $2,000 a year. Armenian General Athletic Union Alumni Association 211 Grand Boulevard Mrs. Ann Ajemian Emerson, NJ 07630-1170 Eligibility: High school students who are entering college. Awarded on the basis of merit and need. Applicants do not have to be U.S. citizens but they must be permanent U.S. residents. Terms of Award: $1,000; not renewable Deadline: May 15 Armenian General Benevolent Union (A.G.B.U.) 55 East 59th Street, New York, NY 10022-1112 Tel: (212) 319-6383 Fax: (212) 319-6507/6508 A.G.B.U. Loan Program in the U.S. Eligibility: Full-time students of Armenian heritage pursuing: Master’s degree in communications, education administration, public administration or international relations; Ph.D. in Armenian studies (final two years only); first professional degree in law (J.D.) or medicine (M.D.). Candidates must be students enrolled in highly competitive colleges and universities. Applicants must also have a GPA of 3.5 or better during their undergraduate study. Terms of Award: Loans range from $5,000 - $7,500 yearly. Repayments begin within 12 months of completion of full-rime study and extended 5 to 10 years depending on the amount of the loan. The interest rate of 3% begins when repayment of loan is initiated. Arpajian Armenian Educational Foundation Jack Arpajian Armenian Educational Foundation, Inc. P.O. Box 1090, Exton, PA 19341 Eligibility: Full-time students of Armenian descent enrolled in four-year U.S. colleges and universities. Must be active in community and show financial need. The scholarship can be awarded up to four years as long as the recipient continues to meet qualifications. Terms of Award: $2,500 per semester Deadline: N/A Armenian Professional Society of the Bay Area John Missirian, M.D. 839 Marina Boulevard, San Francisco, CA 94123 Eligibility: Full-time status at an accredited university or four-year college at the sophomore or higher level. This requirement is waived for teachers of Armenian subjects who are studying on a part-time basis to obtain a teaching credential or toward a degree in education or other related fields. Applicant must have maintained a GPA of 3.2 or higher. Preference is given to students interested in Armenian studies programs, elementary and secondary level teaching careers in Armenian schools, and the arts, i.e., music, fine arts, literature, cinematography and journalism. Students from Armenia are eligible for this scholarship. Terms of Award: $1,000 - $2,000; not renewable Deadline: November 15 Armenian Relief Society Mr. Sonanz Papazian Tel: (617) 926-02472 80 Bingelow Avenue, Watertown, MA 02472 Eremian Scholarship Eligibility: Undergraduate and graduate students enrolled at an accredited 4-year college or university. Awarded on the basis of need, merit and involvement in the Armenian community. In addition, several ARS benefactors have bequeathed funds, each with special requirements. Applicants must submit three letters of recommendation, transcript and tax returns. Terms of Award: Varies. Depends on students’ financial conditions. Deadline: Applications will be available in January and should be returned no later than April 1. Interested students should send in a self-addressed stamped envelope to above address for more information. Armenian Students Association of America, Inc. 395 Concord Avenue, Belmont, MA 02478 Tel: (617) 484-9548 Eligibility: Grants are available to full-time students of Armenian descent at both the undergraduate and graduate levels. Grants are awarded on the basis of financial need, high academic achievement, character, self-assistance, and extracurricular activities. Applicants must have completed at least on year at an accredited four-year college or university in the United States. Terms of Award: $500 - $1,500; students may reapply each year. Deadline: January 15 – Deadline for requesting application ($15 application fee); March 15 – deadline for filing application. Bentley College Attn: Financial Aid Office 175 Forest Street, Waltham, MA 02154 Harry and Angel Zerigian Scholarship Eligibility: Full-time, with financial need, and academically deserving students of Armenian ancestry. Must be day-division sophomores majoring in accounting at Bentley College who have satisfactorily completed all course work through the fall of sophomore year. Students cannot apply directly for this scholarship. When a student applies for financial aid, the college’s financial aid office will apply the Zerigian scholarship to their total aid package. Preference is given to students who attended Haverhill, Lawrence, Waltham or Watertown High Schools. Terms of Award: Varies, based on student needs and the number of students who are eligible for the scholarship. California State University at Fresno Scholarship Office Or write to: Ms. Linda Tamura Joyal Administration Building; Room 219 Scholarship Coordinator Fresno, CA 93740-0064 Tel: (209) 278-6572 Knights of Vartan, Fresno Lodge #9 Scholarship Eligibility: Applicants must be new or continuing full-time students (12 units per semester) at Fresno State and maintain a 3.0 GPA or higher. Recipients must enroll in at least one class in Armenian Studies, Armenian language, or Armenian history. Applicants do not have to American Citizens as long as they meet the above criteria. Terms of Award: Two scholarships of $750 each annually – one for an entering freshman and one for a continuing student at C.S.U.F. Deadline: November 1 Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation Department of Armenian Communities Fax: (351-1) 793-4080 Avenida de Berna 45-A, P-1067 Lisboa Codex, Portugal Eligibility: Sophomores or above who are enrolled full-time in an accredited college or university. Awards granted on the basis of need and merit. No grants can be awarded for night courses, part-time, or non-academic studies. The Foundation does not encourage studies to be pursued at universities outside the applicants country or residence. No more than two members of the same family can benefit from the Foundation’s scholarship simultaneously. Preference will be given to those candidates whose immediate family has not previously received a scholarship. A limited number of grants are also available for graduate students. Terms of Award: The amount varies according to the country and the candidate’s personal situation. Renewable for up to three years of study. Deadlines: Requests for application form and a copy of the regulations will be accepted between February 1 and April 15. Constantinople Armenian Relief Society (C.A.R.S.) Scholarship Mr. Berc Araz/Mrs. Armine Araz Tel: (732) 549-8963 66 Stephenville Parkway, Edison, NJ 08820 Eligibility: Armenian students enrolled in an accredited college or university, starting with sophomore year. Emphasis on both merit and financial need. Scholarships are granted mainly to graduate students. Students from Armenia are eligible as long as they are U.S. Residents. Terms of Award: $400 - $600; approximately 10 – 20 students. Students may apply each year. Deadline: Written request for application forms must be received before July 15. Students are required to complete and return the applications between July 15 and August 30 in order to be considered. Emmanuel Bible College Dr. Yeghia Babikian, Director Tel: (818) 791-2575 1605 East Elizabeth Street, Pasadena, CA 91104 Fax: (818) 398-2424 Eligibility: Pledge to work as a minister, evangelist, missionary, or youth director after graduation. Good academic standing and character. Students are eligible for this scholarships if they decide to study in one of the institutions of Emmanuel Bible College for at least three years. Applicants do not have to be U.S. citizens. Terms of Award: Grants and scholarships available to students enrolled at the college. Scholarships apply equally to full-time, part-time, and correspondence students. Awards are based upon the need of students. Deadline: June 30 Garikian Scholarship Fund Berj S. Baghdoyan Tel: (213) 663-0438 c/o Western Prelacy 4401 Russell Avenue, Los Angeles, CA 90027 Eligibilty: Students who have completed their first academic year at a college or university in California and are pursuing a degree in one of the following areas: Armenian studies/literature, sociology, psychology, political science, Middle Eastern history, journalism, education (teaching and counseling) or music. Terms of Award: Between $750 and $1,000 (varies yearly). Deadline: Applicants must apply to the Executive Board for application forms and return them completed no later than August 31. Georgian Court College Financial Aid Office Tel: (908) 364 – 2200, ext. 258 900 Lakewood Avenue, Lakewood, NJ 08701 Hirair and Anna Hovnanian Foundation Scholarship Eligibility: Full-time student enrolled at the women’s Georgian Count College, preferably of Armenian descent, who exhibits financial need. Terms of Award: Full tuition provided; renewable based on academic record. Hai Guin Scholarship Association Hasmig Maserjian (Scholarship Chairperson) P.O. Box 509, Belmont, MA 02478 Eligibility: Student of Armenian descent, must reside and attend school in Massachusetts. The Scholarship will be granted to a college student who has completed the first semester of freshman year, based on scholarship achievement and financial need. Terms of Award: $1,000 Deadline: October 25 John M. Azarian Memorial Armenian Youth Scholarship Fund Mr. John M. Azarian, Jr. Tel: (201) 444-7111 c/o Azarian Management & Development Company Fax: (201) 444-6655 6 Prospect Street, Suite 1B, Midland Park, NJ 07432 Eligibility: Permanent residents of the United States who are enrolled full-time in an accredited college or university. Awarded on the basis of financial need, merit and involvement in the Armenian community. Terms of Award: $500-$3,000; renewable. Students must complete an application form and have two letters of reference. Several awards may be granted. Deadline: May 1 (may be extended) Mt. Holyoke College Financial Aid Office, South Hadley, MA 01075 Tel: (413) 538-2457 Hagop Bogigian Scholarship Fund Eligibility: Students of Armenian descent who are enrolled in a four-year Bachelor of Arts degree program at Mt. Holyoke College, maintain over a 3.0 GPA, and are in financial need. Students should apply directly to the financial aid office for financial aid and should indicate on the form that they are of Armenian descent. Terms of Award: Depends on need; renewable Deadline: March 1 National Association for Armenian Studies and Research, Inc. Mr. Manoog S. Young, Chairman, Board of Directors Tel: (617) 489-1610 395 Concord Avenue, Belmont, MA 02478 Fax: (617) 48401759 Eligibility: Graduate and post-graduate students who reside in the United States. Research grants are available only to those doing research in the field of Armenian studies. Grants may be given for travel, cost of microfilms or other research materials and for similar expenses, for a period not exceeding one year. Stipends for living expenses are excluded. Only restricted grants as described are given. Each applicant must state in full detail the purpose and scope of his/her research. Applicants must provide a detailed proposal including a budget, details of any travel required, and the names of other sources, which have been approached for funds. In addition, a curriculum vitae and recommendations from at least two persons of academic standing familiar with the applicant’s previous work and proposed research are required. Terms of Award: There is no fixed amount awarded, but grants and fellowships may be renewable. Deadline: Flexible. Early spring for fall grants; early fall for spring grants; and early winter for summer grants. The New York Community Trust 2 Park Avenue, New York, NY 1016 Tel: (212) 686-0010 Hazaros Tabakoglu Scholarship Fund Eligibilty: Full-time undergraduates of Armenian descent who are or will be enrolled at colleges in the U.S. Applicants need not be U.S. citizens but they must reside in New York, New Jersey or Connecticut. Candidates must demonstrate financial need, academic ability, and commitment to the Armenian community and culture. Terms of Award: $1,000 - $5,000; renewable Deadline: Applications due May 1 Rev. & Mrs. A.K. Jizmejian Educational Fund Armenian Evangelical Church; Mr. Mihran Jizmejian, Chairman 816-60 Pavane Linkway Don Mills, Ontario, M3C 1A2 Canada Eligibility: Assistance for full-time theological seminary students and fourth-year undergraduate students who intend to continue their education in a theological seminary. Factors: financial need, academic accomplishments, future leadership potential, and good character references. Must submit proof of enrollment at seminary or university. Scholarship checks issued to name of academic institution only. Terms of Award: $500 - $1,500 depending on number of applicants; applicable to tuition fees only; renewable. Deadline: June 30. Applicants will be notified in August of the committee’s decision. St. James Armenian Church Memorial Scholarships Ms. Anita Assarian Tel: (617) 923-8860 465 Mount Auburn Street, Watertown, MA 02172 Fax: (617) 926-5503 Eligibility: Applicant must be affiliated with St. James Armenian Church by being a graduate of the Sunday school, a Sunday school teacher, a church choir member for at least one year, or in some way acceptable to the scholarship committee. Scholarships are awarded on the basis of academic achievement, financial need, service to school, community and church and seriousness of purpose. Terms of Awards: $250 - $2000 Deadline: April 1 Union of Marash Armenian Mrs. Siroon P. Shahinian, Ph.D. Secretary, The Student Fund One Sussex Road, Great Neck, NY 11020-1828 Eligibility: Matriculated, full-time undergraduate or graduate students accepted at an accredited institution of higher education. Academic excellence; be of good moral character; be in financial need; and show involvement in community. Must be a descendant of a Marashtsi (a part of Armenia/Asia Minor). A complete application includes letter of acceptance to the school attending, up-to-date transcript(s) reference letters. Applicants do not have to be U.S. citizens. They must meet the above mentioned requirements as other students of Armenian descent. Terms of Award: Award amount many vary from $500 - $1,000 from several available memorial funds. Students may receive a maximum of four annual awards through re-application. Re-application is simply by letter of request updating prior information and having up-to-date transcripts sent if study has been continuous and at the same school. No more than one member of the same family may be awarded a scholarship in a given year although more than one family member may apply. Deadline: All requested documents must be postmarked by July 31. Decision notification is by the end of the year. Application forms and informational material may be requested during the period January 1 - June 30. Inclusion of a stamped, self-addressed envelope is helpful for a prompt reply to requests. University of California, Berkeley Armenian Alumni Association P.O. Box 10113, Berkeley, CA 94709-5113 Eligibility: Must be full-time new, continuing or graduate student at UC-Berkley with a minimum 3.25 GPA. Financial need not considered. Terms of Award: One $1,000 scholarship Deadline: October 1 University of California, Berkeley Mr. Tony Bernez, Scholarship Director Tel: (510) 642-6363 Ms. Diana Bischey Fax: (510) 642-0672 210 Sproul Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720 Two separate scholarships are available to students of Armenian parentage. Mangasar M. Mangasarian Scholarship Fund Eligibility: Available for a full-time graduate student of Armenian parentage attending the University of California, Berkley. Scholarship is also offered to international students of Armenian descent. Terms of Award: $500 - $3,000 Aram Torossian Memorial Scholarship Eligibility: Available for a full-time student of Armenian parentage attending the University of California, Berkley. Students do not have to be U.S. citizens. Terms of Award: $300 - $3,000 University of California, Los Angeles Graduate Students: Undergraduate Students: UCLA Graduate Division UCLA Financial Aid Office Special Fellowship Office Scholarship Section 1252 Murphy Hall, Box 951419 A129 Murphy Hall, Box 951435 Los Angeles, CA 90095-1419 Los Angeles, CA 90095-1435 Tel: (310) 825-3521 Three separate scholarships are available to UCLA students of Armenian parentage. Karekin DerAvedision Memorial Endowment Fund Eligibility: Available for a graduate student in Armenian Studies who has been accepted for admission to UCLA. No restriction based on citizenship. Terms of Award: Up to $8,000 Deadline: December 15 Kaspar Hovannisian Memorial Schoarship Eligibility: Available for a graduate student in the field of Armenian Studies, with preference given to Armenian History. Open to students accepted for admission to UCLA. No restriction based on citizenship. Terms of Award: Up to $8,000 Deadline: December 15 Rider University Mr. Jack Williams, Director; Students Financial Services Tel: (609) 896-5000 2083 Lawrenceville Road, Lawrenceville, NJ 08648-3099 Budakian Endowment Scholarship Fund Eligibility: Preference is to be given to students of Armenian ancestry. At least one grandparent must be Armenian. Armenian students are exempt from demonstrating financial need. If in one year, more than one Armenian student applies, financial need, artistic interest and participation of the applicants will be considered. Terms of Awards: Varies; up to $4,000 University of Michigan-Dearborn Armenian Research Center Tel: (313) 593-5181 4901 Evergreen Road, Dearborn, MI 48128-1491 Fax: (313) 593-5219 George & Isabelle Elanjian Scholarship Eligibility: Must be an incoming freshmen student or enrolled for at least one year at the University of Michigan-Dearborn. No restriction based on citizenship. Terms of Award: $700 for tuition to one incoming freshmen student; $2,000 for one continuing upper-class student. Deadline: February 1. Incoming students should apply to the UM-D Admissions Office and upperclassmen should apply to the UM-D Financial Aid Office. University of Southern California USC Friends of Armenian Music Tel: (213) 740-8986 Christopher Samson, Director of Admissions USC School of Music University Park, Los Angeles, CA 90089-0851 Eligibility: Scholarships are available for USC students; undergraduate or graduate music majors. No restriction based on citizenship. Terms of Awards: Scholarship awards are based on merit. University of Southern California College of Letters, Arts and Science Tel: (213) 740-5930 College of Academic Services, CAS 100, Los Angeles, CA 90089 Kalpakian Scholarship Eligibility: Armenian undergraduate students who are enrolled in the College of Letters, Arts and Sciences at the University of Southern California. Terms of Award: $1,500 yearly award; renewable Deadline: Mid-March University of Virginia Office of Financial Aid to Students Tel: (804) 982-6000 P.O. Box 9021, Charlottesville, CA 22906 H. Kruger Kaprielian Scholarship Eligibility: Students of Armenian descent at the University of Virginia who demonstrate financial need. Students do not apply directly for this scholarship. Instead, students should apply for financial aid from the university and indicate on their form that they are of Armenian descent. Students have to be U.S. citizens. Terms of Award: Amount of award based on amount of financial need. Deadline: Entering students, March 1. Returning undergraduate & graduate students, March 31. Villanova University Office of Student Financial Assistance 800 Lancaster Avenue, Villanova, PA 19085 The Hirair and Anna Hovnanian Foundation Presidential Scholarship Eligibility: Students of Armenian ethnic origin who demonstrate financial need and outstanding academic achievements. Consideration is given to all students of Armenian descent who apply and meet Villanova University’s general admissions requirements. Terms of Award: Awarded for four academic years; must maintain 2.75 GPA each Deadline: March 15 for incoming freshman and April 15 all other students. Wayne State University Private Scholarship Coordinator Tel: (313) 577-4969 Office of Scholarships and Financial Aid Detroit, MI 48202 The Michael M. Assarian Scholarship Eligibility: Full-time students of Armenian descent enrolled at WSU. Recipients are selected on the basis of scholastic achievement, extra-curricular activities, and financial need. Interested students should submit an application for private scholarships, current academic transcript, FAFSA, and two letters of recommendation to the Office of Scholarships and Financial Aid. Terms of Award: Amount varies Deadline: April 29 Wilson College Office of Financial Aid 1015 Philadelphia Avenue, Chambersburg, PA 17201 The Hagop Bogigian Fund Eligibility: Full-time students enrolled at Wilson College eligible to apply for a low-interest loan. Preference is given to Armenian women enrolled at the college. Students are required to show financial need and must maintain a satisfactory GPA. Terms of Award: Loans are given at five percent interest. Loan amounts vary from year to year. A typical loan is for $1,500 per year. The Paul & Daisy Soros Fellowships for New Americans 400 West 59th Street Tel: (212) 547-6926 New York, NY 10019 Fax: (212) 548-4623 www.pdsoros.org e-mail: [email protected] Eligibility: The granted are given for up to two years of graduate study in the US. The applicant must have a bachelor’s degree or be in her/his final year of undergraduate study. A New American is a 1) resident alien; 2) has been naturalized as a U.S. citizen; 3) is the child of two parents who are both naturalized citizen. More information can be obtained by contacting to the above address. Terms of Award: Fellow gets maintenance grant of $20,000 & tuition grant of one-half the tuition cost of the U.S. graduate program Deadline: Must be postmarked by November 30

Стипендии ASA (Armenian Students' Association) Scholarships for college and graduate students are being offered by the ASA for the 2006-2007 academic year. In order to be eligible for an ASA Scholarship, you must meet the following criteria: - Must be of Armenian descent. - Must be enrolled as a full-time student and have completed one full year of academics at a four-year accredited U.S. college by June of 2006 OR must be enrolled in a two-year college and are transferring to a four-year college or university as a full time student in the Fall of 2006. - Must be a U.S. citizen OR must possess appropriate Visa status in order to study in the U.S. Application Procedures: - You must meet all the eligible criteria stated above. - The deadline for the application and all required documentation is March 15, 2006. Your application must be postmarked no later than March 15, 2006. Late applications will not be considered. - All sections of the application must be typed or legibly written in order to be considered. - A non-refundable application processing fee of $15.00 (checks only made payable to: Armenian Students' Association) is to be submitted with the application form. E-Mail the ASA office [email protected] Write to: ASA Scholarship Committee 333 Atlantic Avenue Warwick, RI 02888 Call the ASA office at (401)461-6114 * Deadline for returning completed Application is March 15, 2006.

По-моему, пусть никто не указывает! Я что-то не припомню что на Украине делалось такого, чтоб от этого была явная выгода россиянам... А вот что делается чтоб была выгода Штатам, причем без нашей выгоды, могу хоть сейчас назвать...

В переулках - не хожу практически, но я живу в очень страшном, в темное время суток, районе. Пока дохожу от метро домой, такой адреналин...

Хотя бы по критериям того, что среди этих двоих настоящий паук как раз Буш, а Грузия - марионетка в руках Америки, которую время от времени дергают за ниточки. Я не хочу, чтоб и мы были такими же безмозглыми марионетками Хотя мы уже практически ими стали Я не понимаю, как нормальный образованный человек может нормально чувствовать себя в стране, если он - марионетка, причем не для свое власти, а для чужой. Это ужасно! Поэтому для меня Янык в 100 раз лучше Буша. Вот по каким критериям я их сравнивала Не дай бог Америка будет нам, как грузинам, указывать что делать и как жить (чем она уже занялась). Не дай бог!

Почему неудобные? Очень даже удобные...

smally, сейчас тебе прочитают лекцию об аморальности русских, уникальности армян и о том, что мы на русских равняться не должны даже в этом вопросе

Джинсы и футболка Летом - бриджи или шорты и футболка Как нужно одеваться? Ну, не знаю, кому как удобно

Ну что Вы, Celtic, я могу продолжать с Вами разговор хоть до бесконечности, просто он плавно переходит в оффтоп Ну, для начала, как-то я сначала не обратила внимание эту фразу Меня сносит волной общественного мнения? Да если бы! Если бы общественное мнение (я имею в виду армянское общественное мнение) было такое как у меня, я была бы счастлива! Но общественное мнение, к сожалению то, что армянкам надо выходить замуж только за армян, девушки в коротких юбках - легкого поведения, мужчина всегда прав, женщинам - Kuсhe, Kinder, Kirche и т.д. (про норму рабизства и выпендрежа я промолчу) Не буду оспаривать. Возможно. Но мне себя в этой роли очень трудно представить... Единственное о чем поспорю: "Женщина, которая всего в жизни добивается исключительно сама и на всё имеет исключительно свою точку зрения - это ведь уже трагедия?" Я думаю каждый образованный человек должен на все иметь свое мнение. Женщина, как ни странно, тоже человек А добиваться надо как? Через родителей? Через мужа? На сколько я поняла из Вашего поста, вообще добиваться не надо... Не согласна с этим... Но это так, у нас с Вами просто разные мнения Может и сложно, но армяне ведь бывают разные - с разными чертами характера, с разными ценностями, с разными целями и смыслами жизни, как в общем-то все люди на земле. Поэтому очень даже может быть, что армянин найдет иностранца, который по духу ему будет ближе, чем все те армяне, с которыми он был знаком. Это ведь возможно. И под конец. Армяне - не варвары. Я все пишу из своего личного (пусть и небольшого) опыта. Я практически не встречала армянина (практически, потому что вроде встретила ), с которым смогла бы связать свою судьбу, хотя армян знаю кучу. Поэтому подозреваю, что я могу быть не одна такая. Для меня лично "общеармянское мужское поведение" (если можно так выразиться) неприемлемо. Но это ведь не значит, что это аксиома. Просто кроме меня могут быть сотни девушек, которые считают также, и многие из них выйдут замуж за иностранца, так и не встретив подходящего армянина. И это не означает, что они предательницы, проститутки, или повинны во всех смертных грехах. Это означает только то, что они не встретили "нормального" (для них нормального) армянина. А под занавес - пример из жизни - моя двоюродная сестра, живет в Ереване. Ей 25 лет, она до сих пор не замужем (хотя по армянским ереванским меркам уже давно пора). Говорит, что возможностей много, но нормального парня нету. Ну вот, даже в Армении с ее 98% армянским населением кто-то себе "нормального" найти не может, а вы говорите...

Если в на первый взгляд мусульманской семье (ведь глава семьи мусульманин) такое допустили, (уже хотя бы ребенка назвать армянским именем, я уже не говорю крещение и все такое - для мусульман это же вообще позор), то никакие они не верующие мусульмане. А проблемы и "ненавсить" между братьями есть и в христианских семьях, и даже в некоторых армянских

Про девушек отдельный разговор Можноподумать армянские парни женятся только на армянках. Я же писала, когда армянин женится на не армянке. Это - проблема армянских девушек Я беру к примеру частный случай - на пример мне в жизни встречался десяток, не больше, нормальных (для меня нормальных) парней армян. А кому-то, наверно, и того меньше... Может кто-то еще более привередлив чем я ))) И именно в таких случаях чаще всего случаются браки с иностранцами. Я же говорю, на вкус и цвет товарища нет, для кого-то, может, все армяне - нормальные, и этот кто-то меня не поймет

Как в семье такое может быть? Она что, второго сныа изолировала от общения с отцом, родственниками отца и братом?

"Нормальные" - понятие относительное. Для кого-то общая армянская масса нормальная, для кого-то - нет. Я просто объясняю тем, кто обвиняет девушек, которые выходят замуж за не армян во всех смертных грехах, что проблема в большинстве случаев - в мужчинах.

Ношу. Как же без него в наше неспокойное время Более того, в темных переулках он у меня всегда на готове

Нормальные армяне, может, и не перевелись, но их почти нет. Какие мои действия я пытаюсь оправдать? Я не замужем и даже не собираюсь Нормального армянина нашла (вроде) - мне, можно сказать, повезло (тьфу-тьфу-тьфу) Но просто не всем так везет... Кстати, интересно, что по-вашему мне надо было бы делать, если бы не нашла? Уходить в монастырь? Или жертвовать своей жизнью ради того, чтоб мы не ассимилировались?

Знаете в чем разница между Вашим и моим мнением? Вы думаете о нации в целом (как плохо ассимилироваться), а я - о личном счастье каждой женщины, в том числе и о своем. Ну вот реально, посоветуйте, что делать армянке, которая так и не встретила нормального армянина.

Я думаю в этом топике нельзя. Они ж тут типа доказывают как плохо выходить замуж за иностранцев, потому что нация ассимилируется. И по-моему им все равно ассимилируется ли она с арабами или с европейцами

Из серии "Если изнасилования не избежать, расслабься и получи удовольствие" :lol: А если серьезно... Ну, первая реакция точно будет укусить руку и наступить со всей дури на ногу... Для начала вопросы. Там один человек или несколько? Если один, как он может одной рукой рот закрыть, а другой руки связать? Пока он будет делать неумелые попытки связать мои руки своей одной рукой, - воспользуюсь газовым балончиком

Понимаю, что большинство со мной не согласно, но все-таки, думаю, если армянка выходит замуж за иностранца, это проблема парней, а если армянин женится на иностранке - это проблема девушек. Не 100%, но как правило

Смотря какая армянка и смотря какой перс, а еще смотря где они живут...

Шалапунька и Акс, с такими вопросами обращайтесь к тем, кто вышел за араба или перса Я не могу на это ответить, я даже не общаюсь с персами и арабами ))) Но если уж некоторые девушки предпочитают их, значит в них есть что-то, чего нету у армян, логично?

Уважаемый Celtic, лично мне внешность не так важна (не буду врать, что не важна, но не так важна). Если у ереванца из деревни Лусакунк нормальные (для меня) взгляды на жизнь и интересы, то я в нем могу что-то найти (ведь кепку и никому не нужные очки в темной комнате можно снять )) ) А под рабизом и выпендрежем я в первую очередь подразумевала не внешность, а стиль жизни, взгляды и т.д. Знаете, человек внешне может абсолютно нормально выглядеть, а вот взгляды и стиль жизни у него могут быть выпендрежно-рабизские. И зачем мне искать что-то в человеке, если у нас с ним а приори ничего быть не может? Зачем мне ломать себя, свою жизнь, взгляды и нравы, если я вполне могу найти нормального, по крайней мере более подходящего мне по духу человека, пусть и не армянина... И где же это место? "иначе она не нужна" звучит смешно. Что б вы без женщин делали-то? :lol:

Спасибо, мы уже перевели, с грехом пополам

По-моему, первое, что ищут в таком случае это то, чтоб взгляды и ценности совпадали. О чувствах я не говорю, ибо любовь зла Тут и рабиза полюбишь, и выпендрежника, и араба и перса ))

Думаю, искали бы обрезание, выходили бы за еврев... )) Чего нашли не знаю, спрашивайте у тех, кто вышел за перса или за араба.