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Unregistered - V Posted November 1, 2003 Report Share Posted November 1, 2003 > Armenian paper says CIA supports Armenian position on Karabakh > > Azg, Yerevan, > 31 Oct 03 > > The CIA has acknowledged in its "World Factbook" that Nagornyy > Karabakh is historically a part of Armenia, according to an article > in Armenian newspaper Azg. Harut Sasunyan, captioned as publisher > of the California Courier, selected from the "World Factbook" > entry on Armenia the phrases that Karabakh was "assigned to Soviet > Azerbaijan in the 1920s by Moscow" and "Armenian forces held not > only > Nagornyy Karabakh but also a significant portion of Azerbaijan > proper" > as grounds for his assertion. He criticized other statements in the > "World Factbook" entry, including one that Armenian demands > concerning > their former lands in Turkey have "subsided". The following is the > text > of the report in Azg on 31 October entitled "CIA confirms Armenian > ownership of Karabakh and lands in Turkey"; subheadings have been > inserted editorially: > > The Central Intelligence Agency publishes each year a report > called "World Factbook" which contains comprehensive information > on the geography, population, government, economy, communications, > transportation and the military of more than 200 countries and > territories. The Factbook can also be read on the CIA's web site: > http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbo...ok/geos/am.html. Even > though no secrets are disclosed in this public document, it is > still > interesting to see how the CIA presents certain facts and issues > regarding Armenia, Karabakh, Azerbaijan and Turkey. > > CIA confirms Armenian position on Karabakh > > In the chapter on Armenia, the Factbook provides the following > "background" information: "Armenia prides itself on being the first > nation to formally adopt Christianity (early 4th century). Despite > periods of autonomy, over the centuries Armenia came under the > sway of various empires including the Roman, Byzantine, Arab, > Persian and Ottoman. It was incorporated into Russia in 1828 and > the USSR in 1920. Armenian leaders remain preoccupied by the long > conflict with Muslim Azerbaijan over Nagornyy Karabakh, a primarily > Armenian-populated region, assigned to Soviet Azerbaijan in the > 1920s > by Moscow. Armenia and Azerbaijan began fighting over the area in > 1988; > the struggle escalated after both countries attained independence > from the Soviet Union in 1991. By May 1994, when a cease-fire took > hold, Armenian forces held not only Nagornyy Karabakh but also a > significant portion of Azerbaijan proper. The economies of both > sides > have been hurt by their inability to make substantial progress > toward > a peaceful resolution." > > It is interesting to note that the CIA devotes more than two-thirds > of the "background" information on Armenia to Karabakh, indicating > the CIA's special attention to that region. By stating that > Karabakh > was "assigned to Soviet Azerbaijan in the 1920s by Moscow", the CIA > is confirming the Armenian position that Karabakh was historically > a > part of Armenia. Finally, by referring to the territories > surrounding > Karabakh, but not to Karabakh itself, as "Azerbaijan proper", the > CIA > reinforces its acknowledgement that Karabakh is not part of > Azerbaijan. > > Armenian demands over former lands in Turkey have not subsided > > Even more interesting is the following paragraph entitled > "Disputes": > "Armenia supports ethnic Armenian secessionists in Nagornyy > Karabakh > and militarily occupies 16 per cent of Azerbaijan - the > Organization > for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) continues to mediate > in > the dispute; the border with Turkey remains closed over the > Nagornyy > Karabakh dispute; traditional demands regarding former Armenian > lands > in Turkey have subsided; ethnic Armenian groups in Javakheti region > of Georgia seek greater autonomy, closer ties with Armenia." > > The above paragraph contains three false assertions: > > 1. Armenia does not occupy 16 per cent of Azerbaijan. Karabakh > Armenians (with support from Armenia) liberated themselves from the > tyranny of Azerbaijan; > > 2. the Armenians of Karabakh are not "secessionists". They seek > self-determination - a right recognized by the United Nations; > > 3. contrary to the CIA's assertions (which were also made in the > earlier editions of the "World Factbook") Armenian demands for > their historic lands from Turkey have not "subsided". The Treaty > of Sevres recognized the territories occupied by Turkey as Armenian > lands. The borders of a much larger Armenia were drawn by President > Woodrow Wilson. It is comforting that the CIA acknowledges that > these territories did belong to Armenia by referring to them as > "former Armenian lands in Turkey". > > Time is on no-one's side on Karabakh conflict > > In another CIA document ("Resolving conflicts in the Caucasus > and Moldova: perspectives on next steps), a distinguished panel of > experts contradicted those who say that time is on Azerbaijan's > side > in the Karabakh conflict. The panel members made the following very > interesting observations: "Some observers see substantial strengths > in the Armenian position, since the Armenians occupy the territory > and over time their possession may be consolidated in de facto > terms. Although Azerbaijan has the economic advantage, economic > indicators may not be a deciding factor for at least three reasons: > 1. Azerbaijan's relative economic strength is also its > vulnerability, > since the Armenians understand that another war will interfere with > oil > transport, undermine regional investment and compromise > Azerbaijan's > economic momentum; 2. Many Armenians have concluded on the basis of > their troubled history that they cannot safely reside in territory > controlled by Azerbaijan and they are consequently resolute; 3. > Armenians are prepared to sustain high levels of suffering. The > rhetoric of Azeri hardliners may therefore accomplish little beyond > reducing Armenia's capacity for compromise. One of the difficulties > in the conflict is that both parties regard time as being on their > side. In each case, this is a fallacy. Yet it is difficult for > either > party to see around a long history of mutual grievance and > mistrust." > > Armenians should make it clear to the whole world that their > demands > for their historical lands in Turkey, Karabakh or elsewhere, are as > valid as ever and not "subsiding"! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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