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ya yeshyo slishal, chto azerbaijanci Babak-a tozhe schitayut tyurkom, i nazivayut Babek....
Babak Khorramdin
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Bâbak Khorramdin (Persian: بابك خرمدين ) Around 795 , according to some other sources 798 - 838) - One of the leaders of Khorram-Dinân (Persian: those of the joyous religion), which was a local freedom movement fighting the Abbasid Caliphate.
Early life
Bâbak Khorrami was born in Balal Abad (Qaradag),Iran close to the city of Ardabil. After his father’s death in his early teen, he was given the responsibility of his 2 brothers and mother during a traditional Zoroastrian ceremony in a fire-temple, which used to involve a glass of wine and wearing a purple ribbon. By the age of 18 Bâbak had established himself in the city of Tabriz and was engaged in the arms trade and industry.
Later on, this engagement gave him the opportunity to travel to different regions like Caucasia, Middle East and Eastern Europe and familiarised him with history, geography and language of the countries and nations in these regions. During all these time, Azarbaijan was constantly invaded by the Abbasids (Caliphate).
Movement
In 755, Abu Muslim of Khorassan, a famous and popular Persian nationalist, was murdered. Although he had helped the Abbasids to defeat the former Caliphs, the Umayyad dynasty, the ruling Caliph had ordered to kill him, probably because of his increasing popularity among Iranians and Non-Muslims. Many Iranians who had expected more freedom and more rights from the new rulers could not believe that their hero was killed by the ruling Caliph whom they had considered a friend of Iran and Iranians.
This incidence lead to many revolts, most of all by angry Zoroastrians. This, in turn, forced the Caliphs to use more violence against the Iranian population in order to keep the eastern provinces under control. The constant revolts did not come to an end in the following decades, and the Zoroastrian population of the Caliphate was constantly being oppressed by the Caliphs.
Witnessing all these pressure being exerted to his people, Bâbak joined the "Khurramiyyah (Khorram-Dinân)" movement in what later became known as Ghaleh-ye Bâbak (Bâbak Castle), in the mountains of Qaradag. His skills in the latest battle tactics accompanied by the knowledge of history and geography strengthened his position as a most favorite commander during the early wars against Arabs.
Bâbak was a highly spiritual and educated person who respected the Zoroastrian identity of his nation. He made every possible effort to establish reasonable political and cultural relationships with other Iranians and also with leaders such as Afshin and Maziyar to form a united front against the Arab Caliph.
One of the most dramatic periods in the history of Iran was set under the Bâbak’s leadership between 816-837 AD. During these most crucial years, they fought not only fought against the Caliphate, but also against Arab language and culture.
Eventually, Bâbak, his wife and his warriors were forced to leave their command post (Ghaleh ye Bâbak) under a very difficult situation after 23 years of constant campaigns. He was eventually betrayed by Afshin and was handed over to the Abbasid Caliph.
During Bâbak’s execution, the Caliph's henchmen first cut his legs and hands in order to convey the most devastating message to his followers. The legend says that Bâbak bravely rinsed his face with the drained blood pouring out of his cuts, thus depriving the Caliph and the rest of the Arab army the sight of his paled face which was the result of heavy bleeding.
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Ancient historical figure and modern nationalistic debates
In recent years, there has been debate on ethnic origin of Babak, even so trying to fit an ancient figure to this or that nationality goes against any objectiveness. Some Turkish nationalists claim that Bâbak was an Azeri-Turk. On the other hand, Persian nationalists retain the established opinion that he was Persian and that at the time of Bâbak, the Turks had not yet migrated to Azerbaijan.
From the Turkish point of view, it is said that Babak's name can not be shown as a proof of his alleged Persian roots, because it was not his real name. Names of some of his lieutenants such as Tarkhan who was a Turk and Azrak who was an Arab, show that the movement was a mixed ethnicity, broad regional freedom movement against the Caliphate rule. Existence of Muslims among Bâbak's supporters also reinforces this assertion.
According to the Persian point of view, however Babak's (more correctly Pâpag) name, is purely from Persian (Iranian) origins. Turkic peoples migrated to Azarbayjan several centuries later. Bâbak was a follower of Zoroastrian Persians and Abu Muslim of Khurassan. There are no proofs for a Turkish background. As mentioned in the main entry, the claim that he was Turk is recent and propagated mostly by Pan-Turkists. In early history books, there is no mention that he was Turk. He has always been known as a patriot Iranian and Zoroastrian. Even the name of the province, Azarbayjan is Arabicized form of Persian word Azarpadgan meaning the Place of Guardians of Holy Fire (Azar=fire, pad=guard, gan=suffix indicating a place). Ancient Arab historian Ibn Hazm in the book "Religion and People" and ancient Armenian historian Vardan in his "World History" clearly and explicitly mentioned Babak as being Persian. There is no sources that claim otherwise. The name of Babak's father was Mardas, his mother in sources has been called Mah-roo. Both names are Persian. The mentor of Babak was Javidanpoor Shahrak, which is another Persian name. Also the two most important commanders of Babak, Adhin and Rostam, were ethnic Persians. Finally the name Tarkhan is also mentioned as "Tarhan" (which is an Arabic word) in some sources. Besides this, the name also occurs in the Shahnameh and some sources mention that the Soghdian rulers of Samarghand went by this name. So this was a general military title. Finally it should be mentioned that there is no trace of Turkish in Azarbaijan before the Ilkhanid era on paper, rock, leather, inscription, etc and all sources at that time mention that Azarbaijan spoke Azar-Pahlavi (the local dialect of middle Persian) as it continues today in Talyshi, Kurdish, Tati and other NW Iranian languages. Due to the invasion of Oghuz tribes, Seljuqs, Mongols, Ilkhanid, Teymurid, Black Sheep Turkomens and finally the Turcophone Safavid dynasty who imported Turkomens from Anatolia, this region became predominately Turkic speaking. But all this was after the time of Babak.
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Ну вы даетееее...
Какая разница, Низами турок, или перс? (Во всяком случае он точно не армянин.
)И вообше он из етого ничего не потеряет. Лучше читат его книги, чем спорит о его етническое происхождении.
konechno nikakoy raznici, nikavo eto ranshe ne interesavalo, vse znali chto on persidkskiy poet i vsem bilo xorosho. paka 60-70 let nazad kto-to iz azerbaijancev ne reshil chto yesli on rodilstya v Gyanje, to on dolzhen bil bit tyurok, i vsyo, pashlo-payexalo....
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mi harc el es tam!
isk inchic vercrir vor da turqakan a? prosto lsecir u qez tenc tvac? te inch vor analizi entarkecir, bacecir p[atmakan grqer erajshtakan hanragitaranner, zrucecir mijazgayin ekspertneri hret...???
chee...hishec ir ororocayiny
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aysor aravot nayeci h1-@, herthakan aylandakutyunn er.
nax, sksvec herthakan 'brainwash'-ov the andre-n inch vor mi ankap rating-um peryod e @nkel
heto asecin, vor hayastanum shikanum en krqer@ yergi veraberyal, u sksecin phoxocum mardkanc harcnel, aranc bacarutyan bolor@ artahaytvecin drakan, chish aynpes inchpes naxagahakan yntrutyunneri zhamanak.... gone dzevi hamar mi hogu cuyc tain vor urish ban e asel.......
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duq giteq gone ,te ergi hexinaky ov e???kam tesaholovaki resisory???
inch e,arevelyan erang parunakox mexedin kochvum e turqaqan???
mi havataceq,okupacian voch mi hetq el chi toxel voch mi hayi vra...chem haskanum...Andren iravunq chuni Hayastany nerkayacnel,ajn ergov, vorov harmar en gtel stexdzagordz mardik..duq iravunq uneq???ayn turqakan hamarelu???
ayd iravunqy duq eq dzez verapahel??te verevic e ayn dzez shnorhvel???
isk qez thvum e du gites ov e heghinak@?
ethe qez thvum e, vor da armen martisrosyann e, apa, heghine jan, charachar sxalvum es, armen@ thurqakan maseri het ka chnu, 168 zham therthin tvats interview-um inq@ asec, vor erg@ ays tesqov ir het kap unenal chi karox, u haskacrec vor gortsiqavoroxner@ ira tra-tra-tar xarnel en hay azgi 'sireli' thurqakan motivnerov
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Меня просто удивляют запросы юзеров с этого форума
Турецкие мелодии им не нравятся Ну давайте тогда попросим Андрэ спеть арию из какой-нибудь древней оперы. Пусть еще сыграет на скрипке пальцами левой ноги, ну а чтобы было что-нибудь армянское , дадим ему паспорт с недействительной московской регистрацией.da......... interesnaya logika, ne dumal chto alternativa tureckoy muzike eto aria iz operi, ili skripka s palcami....
pazdravlayu vsex armyan pa pvodu etoy novoy naxodkoy, mnogiye 'armyani' v etom forume s vami budut saglasni
k stati eto ne dolzhno bilo bit syurprizom, ved mi kak narod chto lyubim? mi lyubim ili tureckiy stil va vsyom, i adnavremenno 'klasiku', to ist vsyo dermo yesli ano kanchayetsya na o ili i, to ist zvuchit po-italyanski, tipa felichi-melichi....
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h1-i vra mard zarmanum e, milionavor dolarner finasavorum en stanum, govazdayin yekamutn el hskayakan, u inch ardyunq? zbaxvats en mi erku korupcioneri u thurqakan-rusakan ergoxneri promotion-ov, miak normal baner@ erevi futboln e, u kinoneri thargmanutyun@
hamematutyan hamat nayeq shoghakat tv-in, hastat edqan phox chunen, govazd chunen, isk haxordumner@ himnakanum lavn en, u kaervor@- HANRAYIN- en, PUBLIC, tsarayum en azgi npataknerin
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karox e myus tari aram asatryan@ gna hayastan@ nerkayatsnelu? chem zarmana, kartsum em h1-@ dem chi lini, dzerqi het el aramin kasen yerkri hamar mi hat 'chshtov' himn gri, vor chshtov u anchisht hay rabisner@, h1-i haxordavar nanarner@ u mi qani oligarx erkri nkatmamb verjapes harazatutyun zgan
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mi harc tam eli bolorid...
ed inchi anasun kirkorovi zhamanak bolorov kokord einq patrum, the ed thurq@ ira thurqakan ergerov chpiti ga hayastan, isk hima es thurqakan aylandakutyan vra bolord uraxacel eq?
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A ETO IZ DRUGOY ENCIKLOPEDII,
kak vidite, NEZAMI ne bil tyurkom
Nezami
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Nezami Gænjævi (نظامی گنجوی in Persian, Nizami Gəncəvi in Azerbaijani) (1141 – 1209), whose full Arabic name was Nizām ad-Dīn Abū Muhammad Ilyās ibn-Yusūf ibn-Zakī ibn-Muˤayyid Nizāmī Ganjavī, was a Persian poet and storywriter. He was born in Ganja (known during the Soviet period as Kirovabad, Azerbaijan), the capital of Arran in Azerbaijan, where he remained until his death. According to some sources, his father originated from the village of Ta or Tafresh near Qom and his mother, named Ra'isa, was Kurdish. [1]
The region of Arran (the central lowland part of today's Republic of Azerbaijan), where Nezâmî lived and wrote, had in his time only recently become the scene of significant literary activity in Persian. In Azerbaijan, where numerous languages and dialects were spoken, one of the original languages was a local Iranian dialect, Āzarī (not to be confused by the Turkic Azeri language now spoken in the region), but with increasing westward migrations of Turks in the eleventh century Turkish became widespread.
When in the twelfth century the Seljuks extended their control into the region, their provincial governors, virtually autonomous local princes, encouraged Persian letters. By the mid-twelfth century, many important poets enjoyed their patronage, and there developed a distinctive Azerbaijani style of poetry in Persian, which contrasted with Khorasani ("Eastern") style in its rhetorical sophistication, its innovative use of metaphor and its use of technical terminology and Christian imagery.
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iz Britannici...
born c. 1141, , Ganja, Seljuq empire [now Gyandzha, Azerbaijan]
died 1209, Ganja
in full Elyas Yusof Nezami Ganjavi , Nezami also spelled Nizami greatest romantic epic poet in Persian literature, who brought a colloquial and realistic style to the Persian epic.
Little is known of Nezami's life. Orphaned at a young age, he spent his entire life in Ganja, leaving only once to meet the ruling prince. Although he enjoyed the patronage of a number of rulers and princes, he was distinguished by his simple life and straightforward character.
Only a handful of his qasidahs (“odes”) and ghazals (“lyrics”) have survived; his reputation rests on his great Khamseh (“The Quintuplet”), a pentalogy of poems written in masnavi verse form (rhymed couplets) and totaling 30,000 couplets. Drawing inspiration from the Persian epic poets Ferdowsi and Sana'i, he proved himself the first great dramatic poet of Persian literature. The first poem in the pentology is the didactic poem Makhzan al-asrar (The Treasury of Mysteries), the second the romantic epic Khosrow o-Shirin (“Khosrow and Shirin”). The third is his rendition of a well-known story in Islamic folklore, Leyli o-Mejnun (The Story of Leyla and Majnun). The fourth poem, Haft paykar (The Seven Beauties), is considered his masterwork. The final poem in the pentalogy is the Sikandar or Eskandar-nameh (“Book of Alexander the Great”; Eng. trans. of part I, The Sikander Nama), a philosophical portrait of Alexander.
Nezami is admired in Persian-speaking lands for his originality and clarity of style, though his love of language for its own sake and of philosophical and scientific learning makes his work difficult for the average reader.
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Jahelutyun@? Haha. To et jahelutyun@ pashtum a henc zut turqakan ev arabakan erger kochvacner@, brnum en adrbejanic erger en goghanum, barer@ targmanum kotrtvats Hayereni ou nerkayacnum vorpes Haykakan erg. Inds mek mek tvuma vor srank collectiv havakvum en u mtatsum en vor inch lav kliner tseghaspanutyun@ chliner, hima ankax cheyink lini ou mer turqeri het hamerashx kapreink irenc ker@ outelov, lezun xosalov out et zzveli "vostochni" axb@ lselov.
eh........... mi xosecru eli, zzvum em koxq bolors nayeluts, vonc vor xnjuyq lini thaxman zhamanak, mer 'aziz hayer@" kayferi meg en, andre en lsum anglerenov thurqakan erazhshtutyan tak, moracel en kortsanvats azg enq, or ori vitsak@ aveli u aveli e vatanum....
edpes anasunnern el kortsanecin mezi, minchev thurqeri gal@ mi kerp dimanum einq, henc thurqer@ ekan, mer lav hayer@ gtan irants axperin, enpes en xarnvel, vor minchev hima het berel chi linum, nuynisk cexaspanveluts heto ch'haskacanq vor piti azatvenq mer megi thrqutyunic
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mi erku or araj h1-@ asets, vor eurovision-i site aycelac thurqeri nman hayer kan hayastanum, vor andre-i masin vat baner en asum...
ba mi hat thasibov txa chka megners, gnan asen ay aylandakner, uremn menq enq thurq@, the duq, vor npatak eq drel hayerin vorpes thurqerin nmanakox nerkayacnenq...
u sa kochvum e hanrayin herustatesutyun? petq e veracnel ed aylandakuyun@, kam el thoxnel vor menak futbol cuyc tan u kino thargmanen, edqany lav e stacvum irants mot
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Ya slishal tureckiye pesni iz turciyi kotoriye bolshe poxoje na Armyanskuyu muziku chem eto pesnya Pakistanskovo ispolnitelya "Andre" iz Artsaxa
yes chem haskanum, mer hayer@ irants en xabum, the azgovi thurq en darel? huys unem thurqakan arunic che vor pashtpanum e es aylandakutyun@, ayl parzapes anchashakutyunic u yerkar zhamanak Komitas u Patarg ch'lseluc...
skzbits vor lseci, mtatsetsi myus or@ jhahelutyun@ poxoc durs kga ed andre-in u h1-in lacacni, bayts inch exav......
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rebyata, ya s moimi kolegami bili v Ani kagda eto snimali, eto bilo konec sentebrya.
ya razgavarival s etim etot chelovekom, anglichaninom, on bil v beshenstve ot turkov, on mne skazal, chto turki specialno otkrili Ani dlya vsex turistov, chtobi Ani bistro razrushalsya, tak kak kazhdiy turist beryot saboy chto-to, inagda dazhe rezhut at fresk. vabshe on bil v beshenstve, v filne etovo ne tak uzh vidno.
abyazatelno payedete v Ani, ranshe ya dumal chto ne smogu, duxa ne xvatit. no teper ya znayu chto dolzhen apyat payti. ya pervoy raz sebya pachustvaval naslednikom nashey istorii...
no samoye glavnoe chto mi mozhem delat, eto zakrit 'qarhanqer' na nashom starane. ne znayu kakumu oligarxu eto prenadlezhit, no eto pozor...
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Песню СДЕЛАЛИ признанные мастера, небезизвестные в Армении люди (клип тоже).
inch master, inch ban? yerek cuyc en talis Armen Martirosyanin, amothic mernum er, heto parzvec vor ed thurqakan pristavkaneri het inq@ kap chuni, inq@ @ndamen@ Riki-Martinakan ta-ta-ta-n e arel. isk thurqakan mas@ yerevi mer gortsiqavoroxnerits meki meg (kam el henc Andre-i) e hin thurqakan arun@ xaxacel u chi dimacel irants azgi kanchin...
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De es turkakan erkere chem asum uxaki nra erkeri mech lriv kyamanchaya... De hima ba inches aracharkum Andren gnar Eurovison Komitas erqer?
Andre-n piti gnar Eurovision u yerger sovorakan normal pop yerg, inch vor minchev hima yergel er, orinak mek@ ka, Ani-Kristi kartsem, shat normal evropakan pop yerger uni! shat kuzer karox er mi 2 strochka duduk mtcnel, bayts hastat voch thurqaklan zurna u qyamancha. isk the da "prostizhni" kliner the che, thqel em dra vra, indz chi hetaqrqrum the inq@ vor tex@ kgraver... im hamar aveli lav e inq@ final ch@nkni, qan thurqakan yergov mez xaytarak ani arajin tex@ ynknelov, heto adrbejanciner@ asen es angam el meznits kpcrin.
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Ays Eurovision-@ cuyc tvec mer iskakan demq@.
amboxg or@ mets-mets xosum enq mer azgits, heto gnum pachum enq thurqeri votqer@. verji 500 tarin aydpes e exel. dra hamar shat uraxacanq yerb vor thurqer@ ekan es koxmer@, mez azatecin "ateli" huyneri ltsi takits...
isk hima aveli vat e, hima pachum enq eli nuyn votqer@ aranc da haskanalu. heto yerb vor otarner@ asum en the dzer u thurqeri meg tarberutyun chka, nuyninsk kronn e nuyn@, sksum enq kokord patrel vor iranq mezanits goxacel en....
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isk Sayt Novan da haykakan joghovortakan erajshtucun chi?
Sayat-Nova-in ari hangist thoxnenq, en zhamanakner@ urish ein, yes iran chem mexadrum vor inq@ himnakanum yergel e thurqeren. en zhamank yerg@ u hay@ irarits shat heru en exel
hima menq karainq amboxg azgov Komitas darnal, voche the Andre u Aram Asatryan. -
http://www.armtv.com/eurovision/without_your_love.wmv
Это не конкурс народных песен и не этнической музыки... Это попса! Но тем не менее я прослушал песни других стран по сравнению с ними у Андрэ полно своего национального. Там какраз таки играет армянский уд, то что некоторые назвают турецким это от неосведамленности, я могу кучу армянской народной музыки выложить с таким же инструменталом, но почему то те песни ни у кого сомнения не вызывали. А то что он поет это нормально, а что ему надо было петь Дле Яман? А ля рики Мартин, а надо было А ля Рубен Матевосян или Офелия Амбарцумян? Или вот говорят мол концовка хорошая все остальное нет, представляю себе такую песню на евровидении состоящая вся из зурны, кому это понравится кроме нас? Если бы он туда пошел с медленной песней которых сотни... мы бы сказали мол что за фигня почему не что то зажигающее?
На армянском он не поет потому что песня на англ., и помоему с этого года все должны на англ. петь, да и куда там армянский он не подойдет совсем.
И самое главное, то что туда идут все с новой песней которая до этого нигде не звучала. И еще если человек не любит попсу и такие песни что на Евровижн, то впринципе он и не должен обсуждать эту тему... а то все любят критиковать.
Вот послушайте остальные песни
ed vor orvanits e zurnan u qyamanchan haykakan gortsiq darel? menak the chases the thurqern en mezanits ban goxacel. thurqer@ mezanits voch mi ban el chen goxacel, baci hoxerits iharke. ed menq enq amen inch irantsis vercrel u moracel mer [email protected]@ qo kartsiqov inchi hamar amothaxexd exats ynkel er sar o dzor, yerger er havaqum.... giter vor dzhvar the menq mer sephakan@ chunenanq, parzapes thurqeri nkatmamb mer mets siruts drdvats irenc@ meznov arecinq....
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Эксклюзив!!! Песня Андре которую он споет на Евровидении, сюда
Признатся я думал будет романтическая медленная песня... а нет все классно сделано! во-первых то что надо для Евровидения песня быстрая зажигающая с восточными для зрителя мотивами (всопмните три недавние победы Турция, Украина, Греция все песни были такого типа), а для нас главное что там есть армянская музыка!
vo pervix, eto ne vostochnaya, a samaya nastayashaya tureckaya muzika... KIRKOROV 2, menak thurqakan droshn e pakasum vorpes background...irar enq xabum?
heto inch vor vergin tarinerin thurqakan motivnern en haxthel? da mez chi verabervum. cankacac depqum ed t'xan cher karox haxtel, iranits pahangvum er haykakan yergov bem durs gal, vor menq el gnainq eraguyn@ thapahareinq. isk hima iren hargox vor hay@ kgna u thurqakan ergi tak haykakan drosh kphai?
1000 tari e amen inch thurqerits vercnelov enq aprum, amoth che?
ch@nayats chem zarmanum, ethe hayeri mi mas@ yerevi iran hogov aveli shat thurq u qurd zga, qan hay...
lav, yerb enq mer megi trqutyan@ verg talu?
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herthakan yerga-goxutyun@ thurqerits. amoth e, getin@ mtnen aveli lav e. vor shans lini @ndhanrapes petq e hrazharvel ays tarva Evrovision-its, vorovhetev erg@ aylandakutyun e. clip-@ lavn e, bayts erg@ THURQAKAN E, areq menq inqners mez cxabenq....
isk @ndhanrapes, hanrayin herustatesutyun@ piti varel, Hayastanum arden ka shat normal Hanrayin TV (SHOXAKAT) , isk H1_@ thurqerin karox enq ner tal irants latinos Andre-i het..
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pozdravlayu vsex nas! Aronian stal pobeditelem v Linarese....
Cav't tanim! MOLODEC,
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Vot xaroshaya pesnya at nashix rebyat is "System of a Down". pesnya xarosho ilyustriruyet antogonism/genocide, dumayu i genocide kulturniy.
Ono yeshyo i xarosh v kontexte vashix vzaimnix absurdnix viskazivaniy etom topica pra takiye svitye veshi kak cerkvi i sobori.
"Cigaro"
My cock is much bigger than yours,
My cock can walk right through the door
With a feeling so pure...
It's got you screaming back for more.
Cool, in denial
We're the cruel regulators smoking
CIGARO CIGARO CIGAR
Cool, in denial
We're the cruel regulators smoking
CIGARO CIGARO CIGAR
My shit stinks much better than yours,
My shit stinks right down through the floor.
With a feeling so pure,
It's got you coming back for more.
Cool, in denial
We're the cruel regulators smoking
CIGARO CIGARO CIGAR
Cool, in denial
We're the cruel regulators smoking
CIGARO CIGARO CIGAR
Cool, in denial
We're the cruel regulators smoking
CIGARO CIGARO CIGAR
Cool, in denial
We're the cruel regulators smoking
CIGARO CIGARO CIGAR
Can't you see that I love my cock?
Can't you see that you love my cock?
Can't you see that we love my cock?
We're the regulators that de-regulate
We're the animators that de-animate
We're the propagators of all genocide
Burning through the world's resources, then we turn and hide
Cool, in denial
We're the cruel regulators smoking
CIGARO CIGARO CIGAR
Cool, in denial
We're the cruel regulators smoking
CIGARO CIGARO CIGAR
We're the regulators that de-regulate
We're the animators that de-animate
Cool, in denial
We're the cruel regulators smoking
CIGARO CIGARO CIGAR
Cool, in denial
We're the cruel regulators smoking
CIGARO CIGARO CIGAR
My cock is much bigger than yours,
My cock can walk right through the door
With a feeling so pure..
It's got you screaming back for more!
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norits em uzum andradarnal ays themain
im kartsiqov iskakan hay qristonyan petq e "matax" ani hetevyal kerp - hnaravorutyan depqum ogni ir axqat harevannerin u barekamnerin, u thox voch-voq dra masin chimana. da e qristoneutyun@
yerb vor uraxutyun kunena, thox hanganakutyun ani ekexecum, thox hzorana ekexecin, u thox ekexecin voroshi the inchpes petq e tnorinel ayd gumarner@. menq moracel enq, vor ekexecin uni shat karevor funkcia, ayn e resursner mobilizacnel hivandneri u axqatneri hamar.