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V obschem soglasen, no ne soglasen s tem chto my otstaem ot evropeyzev, u nih takaya sistema, potomuchto tak slozhilos istoricheski, a kogda armiane zhivut s evropeyzami(tut esche i ot cheloveka zavisit, no v bolshinstve svoem), my ochen bystro dostigaem nuzhnogo urovnia i stremicia vcegda idti vpered i mnogo nad etim rabotat. U menia mnogo takoh primerov
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TO:Mirzoyan Ahper jan, ne nervnichay, otnosis k nim so snishozhdeniem, nu vot kak ty dumaesh, chego hochet takoy vot azerbaydzhanez na rmianskom forume, ty dumaesh on raschityvaet na to schto my vce tut skazhem DAAA KARABAH VASH, ZABIRAYTE, MY ARMIANE VOOBSCHE TOLKO 50 LET SUSCHESTVUEM, konechno net, oni zhdut tolko provokazii. Kak bylo zamecheno, on ne operiruet nikakimi dannymi dlia zdorovoy diskussii, emu nuzhno tolko sprovozirovat nas, schtob potom rasskazat schto my ne sposobny na normalnyy razgovor, Pust che hotiat govoriat, Karabah nash i my ego ne otdadim
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eto prosto istoriya. Na samom dele dlia menia ne vazhno kto staree,(hotia ya tverdo stoyu na svoih poziziyah, oni prosto ne igrayut osobogo znacheniya, dlia menia eto prosto fakty, o kotoryh mozhno sporit tolko v zdorovoy diskussii) ya gorzhus tem schto ya armianin, i uvazhayu gordost azerbaydzhanza byt azerbaydzhanzem, vopros seychas v tom kak nam pomiritcia, my ne otdadim karabah, vy ne priznaete ego za nami, s oboih storon brainwashing takoy schto v vengrii odin ubivaet drugogo i v strane vinovnogo za ubiystvo ego nazyvayut geroem, eto regress, vyzvannyy extremistami. Imenno izza takoy vot propagandy, budet ochen trudno nayti kompromis i oslabit nenavist
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ARAA, obyasniayu esche raz Seldzhuki tam s 11go veka NASHEY ERY A armiane primerno s 800yh DO NASHEY ERY nu slushay ne zadaay takih voprosov, pochitay istoricheskie enziklopedii neazerbaydzhanskih avtorov My vezde, chastichno potomuchto my tam zhili i sohranili samobytnost i kulturu cherez pokoleniya chastichno potomuschto KTO TO NAS POGNAL SO SVOIH ZEMEL I MY BEZHALI KUDA GLAZA GLIADIAT
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Vot pozhaluysta momenty istorii Azerbaydzhana, otkuda vidno schto azerbaydzhanzy kak oni seychas est obrazovalis tolko v 11veke According to the 10th century Balami History, it is stated that the borders of Azerbaijan start at Derbent and end in Hamedan. It was stated in the 10th century that: "All these lands (between Derbent and Hamedan) are called Azerbaijan and all these lands belong to Turks." Since ancient times, Azerbaijan has been inhabited by several different civilizations. Different political entities and states such as Mannai and Urartu as well as Media and Albania (Agvania) flourished on Azerbaijan's soil. Ancient peoples such as the Sumerians, Elamites, Kasis, Lulubis, Chols, Gutis as well as Scythians and Massagets (both refered to as Ishkuz) dwelled in the territory and participated in the state formations of ancient Azerbaijan. After the decline of the Arab Empire, the Oghuz Turkish tribes (moving west from Central Asia into an area which they considered a Turkic land) in a series of mass migrations created a majority in Azerbaijan by the 11th century. The modern statehood, blood, language, literature, culture, garments, dances, folklore and national character of the Azerbaijanis comes from the Oghuz Turks. However, the ancient Turanian population (which was not fully unified) and cultural traits was strengthened and revived by the Oghuz, thus, establishing the Azerbaijani-Turk nation ABSOLUTNO NEZAVISIMYY ISTOCHNIK
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Ya privel fakty iz absolutno nezavisimyh istochnikov, uchil ya istoriyu v esche sovetskom VUZE ne na territorii Armenii, Prepodavatelniza istorii u menia byla kurdiyanka, kotoraya prepodavala ves material tolko s nauchnoy tochki zreniya i vce eti fakty ya uslyshal v pervuyu ochered imenno togda. ETO PROSTO ABSURD govorit schto tiurki zhili zdes ranshe armian, kogda VSE nezavisimyye istochniki utverzhdayut obratnoe, zaday prosteyschiy poisk v GOOGLe i ty vce poymesh
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ara vot vy azerbaydzhanzy odnogo nikak ne mozhete poniat. NU NE VIDAT VAM ARZAH kak svoih ushey, my ego vernuli, i ni za chto ne sobiraemcia otdavat. Moi predki v nachale 20veka vynuzhdeny byli bezhat iz Shuhy. Do menia doshli takie pritchi ob etom begstve azh ushi vianut. I takih semey ogromnoe kolichestvo. Nu ne otdadim my ego vam, kak by vy tam ne krichali schto eto vasha zemlia i tak dalee. Da; izza etogo u nas blokada, prolemy, vce na nas daviat, no kak ranshe my ne izmenili nashey vere, tak i seychas ne otdadim nashu zemliu!.........pridumali by luchshe kak smiagchit obstanovku i nachat prozess primireniya, esli my pomirimcia, to cherez kakoeto vremia azerbaydzhanzy smogut spokoyno zhit na territorii Karabaha, kak v sovetskoe vremia,(posle rezni) armiane spokoyno sosuschestvovali s azerbazdzhanzami
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nu da konechno, nam tam zhyt pozvolili, nu my i tipa v blagodarnost poprosili nashego mashtoza narodu etomu tut "mestnomu" tozhe tipa alfavit sostavit, ato zhalko ............hhhhhhh, azh smeshno do kolikov v selezenke.