Dinozavrik

Somex, What I am trying to say is that it's obvious that you are not going to change your opinion regarding this subject ,so I don't see a point continuing this conversation. Besides, you continue to off top under this topic . May be you should ask the moderators to transfer this comments and create a new topic just for you, so you can continue discussing it .

Сегодня утром сняла курицу из морозилки. После работы что нибудь khnarem :lol:

Karmir jan, Isn't worth it. He isn't going to get it anyway.

Да, не-знаю что сказать... Видно что она находится под давлением дядь и чувствует себя очень спутанной. Я думаю что ты должен дать ей время что бы она смогла проанализировать свои чувства и приняла правильное для неё решение. Я знаю как это будет тяжело для тебя, но ты должен подождать ,для того и ты мужчина. Прежде всего ты должен послать ей смс и написать что ты знаешь под каким давлением она находится и ты не-хочешь причинять ей ещё больше стресса и по этому ты решил дать ей время подумать даже если это причиняет тебе большую боль. Обязательно скажи что ты её очень любишь и ты уверен что она обязательно примет правильное для неё решение. . .

Genocide bill vote on hold as pro-Armenians probe support by turkish daily news In light of diminishing support for the bill pending in the US House of Representatives Democratic Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Wednesday that she was 'reconsidering' her pledge to force a vote on the resolution ÜMİT ENGİNSOY WASHINGTON - Turkish Daily News Amid declining backing from lawmakers for an Armenian "genocide" resolution pending in the U.S. House of Representatives, supporters of the measure have put a planned floor vote on hold as they now seek to control damage and find what level of support they have. Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a fervent supporter of an Armenian "genocide" bill pending in the House of Representatives, said Wednesday that she was reconsidering her pledge to force a vote on the resolution, which calls on the United States to recognize World War I-era killings of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire as genocide. Only last week, she said the bill would go to a floor vote at the House of Representatives before late November. "Whether it will come up or not and what the action will be remains to be seen," she told reporters in light of waning support for the measure. Her remarks came after President George W. Bush, whose administration staunchly opposes the resolution, called her to lobby against a floor vote and 11 cosponsors of the bill withdrew their support this week. "We will have to determine where everyone is," said House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, a close aide to Pelosi and another strong supporter of the resolution. John Murtha, a top Democratic congressman who opposes the measure, dealt a strong blow to the pro-Armenian group Wednesday, arguing that the resolution's passage will force Turkey to retaliate in a way that will put U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan in harm's way. Murtha's trick As chairman of the House Appropriations Subcommittee on Defense and a former Marine officer, Murtha is a respected expert on military affairs who staunchly opposes Bush's Iraq policy. But on the "genocide" measure, he fully agreed with Bush. "If it came to the floor today, it would not pass," Murtha said, adding 55 to 60 Democratic lawmakers at this point would vote against the resolution. Although he is very close to Pelosi, Murtha accused the speaker of being "impractical." Separately, a bipartisan group of 49 House members, including such committee chairmen as Ike Skelton of the Armed Services Committee and Silverstre Reyes of the Intelligence Committee, both Democrats, sent Pelosi a letter urging her not to schedule a vote, according to the Los Angeles Times. The Republican Bush administration has already been lobbying mostly Republican lawmakers, and persuaded many of them to object to the bill, which last Wednesday passed the House Foreign Relations Committee in a 27 to 21 vote. "One thing Congress should not be doing is sorting out the historical record of the Ottoman Empire," Bush told a news conference Wednesday. "The resolution on the mass killings of Armenians beginning in 1915 is counterproductive." Long struggle Analysts say the Armenian argument that "it is an obligation for America to recognize the genocide" is weaker than the counterargument that "American troops' lives are in danger" to many lawmakers. And the Armenians, although nervous over the rising number of dissenters, vowed to continue the fight. Bryan Ardouny, executive director of the Armenian Assembly of America, said, "at the end of the day, we're confident that there will be a bipartisan majority" supporting the measure. "They've taken their best shot. And we're still standing strong," said Aram Hamparian, executive director of the Armenian National Committee of America. Pelosi's authority to call for a floor vote on the resolution at the most suitable time is the pro-Armenian group's biggest advantage. Analysts said if the pro-Armenian group felt strong enough to win in a final vote soon, then Pelosi would bring the measure to the floor before the end of this congressional session that ends before late November. Otherwise, she would have the freedom to postpone the controversy until next year. The resolution remains in place until November 2008, and Pelosi could hold a floor vote whenever she wants.

KNUNKH

Khavor (inch harsanika linelu tash-tush )

I know that you know Eglish, because that is what you have on your member profile Expayr jan iskakan HAYE txan iran chi el tuil ta tents barer oktagortsel.

Somex, I don't know how can you support someone like Edik, who doesn't know how to control his tongue and uses profanities left and right and on top of that says that he is an armenian. I am an ARMENIAN woman and I got very upset when I read his reply. I don't think he should be allowed back to the forum, because he doesn't have even the slightest comprehension of how he needs to behave while dealing with other people.

Что то нечисто пахнет

ochen' interesnaya i grustnaya istorya

Pachik (toxuma enel vonts)

Так и должно было быть. Апрес Что Я вижу что. ...а черта не вижу. I know were you are going with this?

Par

Thank you Sofia jan, I will definitly read the article. Keep us posted.

Ребята, а как насчёт карточек городов/стран где камушек был? Я думаю что можно с камешком положить карточку города или страны где она была и написать дату прибывание в этой стране или какую нибудь печать. Нужен же нашему камешку паспорт ? :lol: :lol:

EdikSog, Хочу сказать что у тебя очень узкий менталитет и от таких как ты только одно горе. Настоящий АРМЯНИН никогда нескажет то что ты сказал.

Парламент Турции в среду, 17 октября, одобрил правительственный законопроект, разрешающий турецкой армии в течение года провести военную операцию против курдских боевиков в северном Ираке, передает агентство Associated Press. За проект закона проголосовали 507 депутатов, против - 19 парламентариев, которые представляют небольшую курдскую фракцию. Итоги голосования были встречены аплодисментами.Время проведения операции, ее длительность и интенсивность военные могут определять сами. Ирак не раз заявлял, что будет рассматривать вторжение турецкой армии в северные районы страны как посягательство на свой государственный суверенитет. Существуют опасения, что это может повлечь дестабилизацию политической ситуации в Ираке и даже привести к распаду государства. Иракские политики подчеркивают, что решить вопрос с курдскими боевиками Турция может лишь совместно с Ираком, но не в одностороннем порядке.

No, Thug. These are not only Turks but Americans also.

good job GREECE

Sofia.greek already has it on one of the greek forums here is the link http://www.phorum.gr/viewtopic.php?t=94313 www.pcw.gr/default.php?pid=37&redirect=index.php She informed me that she will also place the link on other greek forums. Thanks Sofia.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: kak skazhish ARAMIS jan :lol: :lol: :lol:

Pelosi rejects Bush plea to shelve genocide bill vote by turkish daily news Tuesday, October 16, 2007 Democratic speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi Pelosi said she has not received a telephone call from Bush and rejected the pretext raised by the president, Secretary of State Rice and Defense Secretary Gates that approving the resolution will hurt the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan ÜMİT ENGİNSOY WASHINGTON - Turkish Daily News Democratic speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi, made clear Sunday that she will bring to a full floor vote the Armenian ''genocide" bill approved by a House panel last week, despite warnings by President George W. Bush and his top aides that passing the bill will seriously harm American national interests. Pelosi's top aide, Steny Hoyer, announced that the House floor vote will take place before Nov. 16. "If [the bill] passed the committee, we would bring it to the floor," Pelosi said during an interview with ABC television when asked whether she is determined to hold a floor vote on the resolution. The House Foreign Affairs Committee last Wednesday voted 27 to 21 in favor of the non-binding resolution, which calls on the United States to recognize the World War I-era killings of Armenians by the Ottomans as genocide. "This resolution is not the right response to these historic mass killings," Bush said last week. Pelosi said that she personally has not yet received a telephone call from Bush and rejected the pretext raised by the president, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Defense Secretary Robert Gates that approving the resolution will hurt the U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and endanger American troops. Ignoring warnings Turkey is working on a package of measures in the event the bill is passed that include curbing military cooperation with the U.S, but details are not clear. Chief of General Staff General Yaşar Büyükanıt warned Washington with his message: "Our military relations with the U.S. will never be the same again." But Pelosi said: "Our troops are well served when we declare who we are as a country, and increase the respect that people have for us as a nation." Responding to the Bush administration's statement that this was not the right time to ''anger'' the Turks when they were cooperating with the U.S. in the war against terrorism, she said: "There's never been a good time... [the resolution] is a statement made by 23 other countries. We would be the 24th country to make this statement. Genocide still exists and we saw it in Rwanda, we see it now in Darfur." House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer made similar remarks speaking to Fox News television. "I schedule the bills and I'm telling you, it will come forward, it'll come to the floor before November 16," he said. Hoyer implied that Turkey would not dare to take radical measures, because it needs the U.S more than the U.S needs Turkey. 'Most irresponsible thing' "I think Turkey's help to us is vital. More vital is the U.S. help to Turkey. Over the last half century, the relationship between the U.S and Turkey has far more advantaged Turkey than has the U.S," he said. Hoyer said that the genocide resolution was a historical observation and not a move aimed at insulting the country. "Our government is absolutely convinced a genocide was committed. Not by the Erdoğan government, nor the present Turkish people. But almost 100 years ago, in 1915, during the course of their civil war," he said. Meanwhile, John Boehner, the Republican minority leader in the House and a close Bush ally, blasted the Democratic House leaders' plans to hold a floorvote for the bill. "Bringing this bill to the floor may be the most irresponsible thing I've seen this new Congress do this year," he told Fox News. "Turkey is a very important ally in our war against the terrorists. They are in a very strategic location in the world. They have been a great ally of ours. They are very upset about this resolution. And the speaker should not bring this issue to the floor," he said. In addition to top Bush administration officials, eight former secretaries of state and three former defense secretaries sent joint letters to Pelosi, urged her to stop the resolution. Meanwhile former US President Jimmy Carter also joined the former top U.S. officials on Sunday, who oppose the resolution, reported CNN's national network in the U.S. "I think if I was in Congress I would not vote for it," he said on CNN.