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ti prav Merkyrii jan. No ti znaiesh potom oni nachnyt mol zatknyli nas, y nas nechego skazat'. To chto ya govoriy yveren' chto on yje slishal i 99 iz 100 armian podtverdiat

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Vriad li etot tkach deistvyiet bez soglasii Moskvi.

"the mere fact that the land some time in then past belonged to some country, doesn't mean those lands will always be their. Noooo, heck nooooo.... " That is exactly why you should forget Karabakh

Just to remind you at the end in case you are unaware that we have seeked normal relations with Turkey however after all this they are the ones to refuse for no apparent reason.

"I do not know the Turkish history as well to debate with you here about the details, however the mere fact that only in Istanbul there are 52 christian churches and in Armenia only one (i to za schot Irana) muslim mechet tells everything about Turkey and Armenia." Who needs Christian Churches withou Christians? You are saying as if the Turks themselves have built 52 churches for Christians just because they have beautiful eyes. To tell you the truth they did not even build one, moreover they have destroyed many and turned into Mosques the most beautiful ones (such as Agia Sophia) This facts proves that Istanbul can't be a historic Turkish city but it could be well said that Muslims are not indigenous in Armenia

"Otherwise it's not possible, you don't say Turkish nation is one of the most democratic among muslim states, you say they are the human-like animals. The stories of the genocide of Suren grandpa has made you so blind that you don't see any compramises in anything."Despite the fact that I don't believe in Turkish democracy at all but even if it was, do we care about democracy...No... Nobody does, not even America, not even Britain so why should we? Why I don't believe in Turkish democracy, why have forty people starved themselves to death because of prison conditions, why are Kurds and other minorities denied simple rights, why are laws discussed not to let churches to own land, thhis list can go very very long. On the other hand we can deal with Saudi Arabia or many other non-democracies without any fear."The stories of the genocide of Suren grandpa" by this simple statement you show your ignorance towards history."you don't see any compramises in anything" explain what compromises do you mean? Giving the remaining Armenian land to Turkey or something?

Reguarding "The only way to stop you from doing this would be not to deal with you at all. Just leave you alone, let you do whatever you want at your house. " That is exactly what we always asked for but you failed to do that moreover you did the opposite, to burn our homes, to make us leave our homes, to be a refugge for a lifetime, to "deal" with us.

kanan, despite the fact that just like Supervisor i am also in the middle of my exams but i am willing to go into a deep argument about that book by till recently very little known author, who chose to sell his soul...about our attitude towards Turks and anything concerning my nation. First let us tackle the question about our attitude towards Turks, which according to you is one of ignorance, hate etc "You guys claim you are the best, you the unique, your the most ancient and all the turk are barbarians, uncivilized and uncultured societies."First of all it is true that we are a unique nation with our unique language, our unique history, with the history of our unique religions, customs tradition and culture. Reguarding what you said that we consider to be the most ancient civilization... where did you hear that? It is true that we are a very ancient civilisation, at least compared to Turkish civilization. (I'll come to that later) and i can assure you that it is true that we are very old nation but we don't know and we cannot know who the oldest are.Second, you said that we hate Turkish civilisation. Can you define what it is? what do you mean by Turk at all. If you consider Turk to be the all Turkic speaking languages then your claim has a big crack. Let me remind you that with the Turkic nations of Central Asia we have good relations and we don't consider them as enemies (Such as Turkmens, Uzbeks etc.) Our President paid them a visit a few days ago where Armenian communities enjoy equal rights unlike in Azerbaijan, Turkey. However if we take for example Armenians in Azerbaijan and Turkey, they never enjoyed any rights at all and first of all the right to live. Throughout the Ottoman era any testimony by a Turk in a Courts of Law, for example was equal to 10 Armenians testifying. During the communism Azerbaijan did everything it could to force Armenians out of their homes. Now you consider where the problem is and why we dislike Azerbaijan and Turkey but not Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan. It is you and your Turkish aspirations of pan-Turkism and Pan-Turanism, whereas the only thing we ever wanted was to be able to live at our homes without disturbing anyone and without being disturbed. Throughout our thousands of years of history we went on to conquer other countries only once which only lasted for a few decades anyway, not because we were weak but because we like peace. We lived on this territory for thousands of years. Our Armenia has always been a country of only approximately 200-300 thousand sq. km. Whereas Turks came out of nowhere occupied millions of sq. km, almost exterminated a whole nation and now we are left with some 35,000 on which you have set your eye on and don't want to leave us alone till you take it from us. Well let me tell you this, the history tought us a good lesson and you will never ever gain our trust again. You fool me once shame on you, you fool me twice shame on me. Every time I read Raffi or other pre and post-genocide literature I suffer with these people who were the victims of Ottoman brutality.Anyway the point is that we are not against Muslim culture or even Turkic culture, it is just the result of your attitude towards us. You want to create an impression of pan-Turkism and Armenian hate against it you want to manipulate a pan-Turkic hate against us although Turkey has been successful in that sense reguarding Azerbaijan and/or vise-versa but your efforts were wasted when trying to create anti-Armenian attitude in other Turkic countries. (let me remind you also that Turkmenistan president Niyazov aka Turkmenbashi has declared to his nation during the Karabakgh conflict that Armenians are good people and they should not be offended just because of Armenia-Azerbaijani conflict)

savsem ozverel etot tkach.

Merkyrii ti vsio chashe i chashe povtoriaiesh slova Naxagaha Kochariana

kanan-fsa7. You have to admit that we all live in a region (if not geographically at least culturally) called the Middle East. The culture (especially food, music, traditional family.) have been in close contact with each other throughout centuries. The reason we eat boz-bash is the same reason you eat lavash or khash. By the way the Georgian dishes such as khachapuri, xinkali etc. are also popular in Armenia. It is a natural thing. It means that neighbours do appreciate each others culture. If we look at the what British people eat it would surprise us. The most popular food is Indian (tandoori, balti...) and Oriental (cantonese, thai,japanese...).

.------------------------------------------------------ 'Если мы не знаем о существовании какой-либо планеты за миллионы световых лет от нас, это не значит, что она не существует'. -------------------------------------------------------Vot immenno tak, pravil'no dogadalis'. Poka kto-nibyd' ne dokajet chto ona syshestvyet, dlia nayki net takoi planeti. --------------------------"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." kak govoril Einstein.------------------------

Ia prosto priviol primerl kogda nayka ne mojet dokazat' fact kotorii sishestyet. S naychnoi tochki zrenia vsio chto ne dokazano ne syshestvyet...esli dva cheloveka liubiat gryd gryda to s naychnoi tochki zrenia oni ne mogyt eto dokazat'. vot v etom raznitsa mejdy religiei i naykoi. Religia ychit nas liubit' a nayka daje ne mojet dokazat' shto liuybov' syshestvyet. A vi govorite " что наука, в конце концов ответит на все вопросы, так как она развивается, а религия уже сейчас не может, и не сможет уже никогда, потому что это застывшее образование. "Nayka nekogda ne otvetit na vse voprosi. Ona daje ne otvetit na desiatuiu chast' vsex voprosov. S razvitiem nashego yma mi bol'she bydem ponimat' Bibliui po drygomy ee vosprinimat'. Tak chto religia toje bydet razvivatsa

---------------------------------------------------------К примеру был такой закон что государствообразующие нации получают бесплатно образование, а национальные меньшинства должны были платить. Хотя к примеру тем же армянам в Азербайджане в нарушении общего правила не нужно было платить за образование, а тут кто на форуме говорил о тяжелой жизни армян в Азербайджане.---------------------------------------------------------Chto za bred? osobenno "К примеру был такой закон что государствообразующие нации получают бесплатно образование, а национальные меньшинства должны были платить. " Eto kogda? gde?

Eto vi seichas tak govarite shto Azerbaijan mnognatsional'naia strana. A pochemy turk-azeri vsegda staralis' assimilirovat' vsex natsional'nx menshinstv, i ochen' daje ydachno. Ya prochital knigy nedavno priamo tak i nazivaetsa "Assimiliatsia natsional'nix menshinstv v Azerbaijane" (ili shto-to vetom vrode, priblizitel'no:) )

Только вот разница между религией и наукой в том, что наука, в конце концов ответит на все вопросы, так как она развивается, а религия уже сейчас не может, и не сможет уже никогда, потому что это застывшее образование. Nayka ne mojet dokazat' mnogie veshchi shto sviazano s Bogom. Naprimer vi mojete dokazat' chto liubite svoiu devyshky, jeny, sina, rodiny etc. s naychnoi tochki zrenia?

Ona skazala 500 a ne 5000. 500 ymnojit' na 10 let=5000

Merkyrii"Я христианин, меня крестил Каталикос!"Mojno sprosit' kakoi Katolikos?

Pravil'no delaiut vo mnogix stranax cto zapreshaiut razgovarivat' o religii v klybax, kafe, restoranax i prochix pyblichnix mestax...

StrackerNesmotria na to chto ia veriy chto Azerbaijantsi ne prosto narod iz Altaia a smes' mejdy nimi i mestnoi naselenii Aghvanka(Albanii) no sydia po tvoim slovam'Азербайджан-лы (азербайджанец )– буквально означает родом из Азербайджана почти тоже самое что и термин россиянин.' Azerbaijanets eto ne narod.(tak kak rossianin toje ne narod)

A lot of facts have contributed to this fact Kana. Especially the closeness of the communist regime during the Soviet Empire. The developments of the diaspora-Armenia literature was different. However you should not worry about it that much because with the collapse of the Soviet Empire the interaction between diaspora and Armenia is on a much different level, with our singers, dancers, painters, musicians etc. travelling to Spiurk(diaspora) communities quite often. . We now also have satellite televisions broadcasting across the globe so that all the Armenians who had little chance to get aquainted with Armenian traditions can do so now.

Skoro babki bydyt mi etoi DNA texnologei dokajem mnogoe miry. (Nashy istoriu mi toje malo znaiem, xochy skazat' spasibo Lysavorichy za to chto on ynichtojil vsiu nashy do-Xristianskuiu literatyry)Odin exempliar tol'ko bednii Xorenatsi spas. (Yerkner Yerkie, Yerkner Yerkink, Yerkner yev tsovn Tsirani) Odin Leo xoposho kritikyet etix vsex...

-----------------------------------------------------------Forum, vot kak raz taki segodnya ya govoril s odnim znakomim ispancem pro Baskov. Voobsche u nix yazik interesniy, no kak on govorit sxoditsya chem to s "Eastern Russia" narodami. Zdes' vedat' i idyot rech' o kavkazskix narodax. Vot chto esche interesno u Ispanii est' Iberia Airlines, chto sovpadaet s nazvaniem drevnei Gruzii.-----------------------------------------------------------Ibera-po moemy eto Ispanskii polyostrov nazivaetsa tak a ne tol'ko Airlines. I zi sovershenno pravi, shto sovpadaet s nazvaniem drevnei Gryzii (Iberia, Iveria (ot etogo Vratsai)). Kstati mnogie Gryzini veriat shto ix predki iz Ispanii. Est' mnogo sxojego mejdy fol'klornoi myziki Gryzin i Ispanskix narodov. (ne znaiu kak nazivaetsa, no etot xop kogda vse poiyt raznie pesni, i polychaetsa ''myzika'').A nashiot Baskov ia razgovarival s odnim Baskom, (kstati on bil na kavkaze) i on govoril chto est' ochen' mnogo sxojego mejdy kavkasskimi yazikami i ixnim. Po ego slovam Chechenskii iazik toje poxoj na ixnii. Est' neskol'ko knig kotorie pitaiutsa dokazat' shto predki Baskov sviazani s Armianami.

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