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Dumayu mi budem dostatochni razumni chtobi pokonchit s bushismom...

Pozhaluista ne dezinformirovaite na forume. Plan Obami o meditsinskoi straxovki ne budet delat straxovku besplatnim... on budet delat straxovku dostupnoi...

1. Soglasen. No nikak ne vizhu kak prodolzheniya bushizma ili Makkein garantiruet bezopasnost Armenii News: President George W Bush backs Israeli plan for strike on Iran: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/worl...icle4322508.ece 2. Eto prosto ne ponimaniys plana Obami: Vo pervikh 47 millionov Amerikantsev ne imeyut meditsikskuyu straxovku - eto prosto uzhanso prosto podumat Potom, Obama would create the National Health Insurance Exchange, a nationwide marketplace where insurance companies sell private health plans. The federal government will regulate the Exchange so prices stay competitive and fair. Public coverage will be administered through the Exchange, as well. Senator Obama also will require that insurance companies accept all applicants regardless of health history or pre-existing conditions. Obama's plan will not mandate that all Americans have health insurance, but all children up to age 18 will be required to have coverage. Under his plan, Medicaid and the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) will be expanded to provide insurance for more children. Employers must also offer coverage for their employees. If they choose not to insure their employees, they will be required to pay a percentage of their payrolls toward a national health plan. Some small businesses will be exempt from this law.

Chislo armyan kotorie poluchayut menshe 200,000 dolarov v god namnogo previshaet chislu armyan poluchayushie bolee 2 miliona v god i oni budut zhit luchshe pri plane Obami, a te kotorie poluchayut namnoge bolshe 2 miliona god ya ne dumayu budut imet problem anyway... Obama ne planiruet delat meditsinu gosudarstvennoi...

Bogatie (ya imeyu v vidu u kotorikh dokhod bolee 2 milliona v god) ostanutsya bogatimi i budut platit nalogi, takzhe kak ne bogatie budut, no bogatie budut platit bolshe i eto dast chance lyudei imet meditsinskuyu straxovku i poluchat vsoevremennuyu meditsinskuyu pomoshch. Mne stidno uvidet chto v samoi bogatoi strane mire millionov lyudei ne imeyut meditsinskuyu straxovku i ne mozhet svoevremeeno naiti meditsinskuyu pmoshch...

konechno, no ya ne ob etom bush i Makkein soglasni na klyuchivie voprosi politiki: oni soglasni o voine v Iraq oni soglasni na klyuchevikh ekonomicheskix voprosakh: ne khotyat delat meditsinskuyu straxovku dostupnoi dlya vsekh i khotyat prodolzhat bush's tax cut v polzu bogatikh i t.d.

gde?

Konechno kazhdii mozhet dumat chto xochet no Obama dae nadezhdu priznovaya genotsid s Makkeinom netu nikakix nadezhd...

ya khochu skazat eshche raz NELZYA imet vtorogo busha, a Makkein eto vtoroi bush oni soglasni na vsekh klyuchevikh ounktax...

Realnoe situatsiya to zhe samoe uzhe 5 let no Armenii netu nikakoi polzi ot etogo...

Netu nikakikh garantii v politike, v politike strani deistvuyut kogda kak vigodno etim stranam. No delo v tom chto Makkein prosto ne podderzhivaet nas i zayavlyaet ob etom, to est esli Makkein priedt k vlasti (vtoroi bush) prosto nichego ne izmenitsya to est priznaniya genotsida ne budet i mi znaem eto uzhe segodnya

Netu nikakogo osnovaniya schitat chto Obama bolee zavisimo ot turok, esli on bil on ne podderzhal genotsid... Dlya menya kak Amerikanskogo grazhdanina konechno bolee vigodno chtobi prekratilis ubiistva nevinnikh iraktsev i amerikanskix soldat v bezmislennoi voine, chtobi bushi i makkeini ne tratili moi nalogi na zlo, a na dobro, chtobi moi soograzhdani imeli medical insurance i.t.d. to est chtobi Obama bil presidentom...

Ya tozhe ne mogu ponyat kak Armyanin mozhet ne golosovat za togo kto podderzhivaet priznaniya genotsida i podderzhat togo kto ne podderzhivaet. Amerikanets mozhet ne golosovat za togo kto khochet prekratiti bezsmislennuyu voinu: ubbiistva lyudei v tom chisle amerikanskix soldat i tratu bilionov dolarov. Vot gde gosudarstvo tratit moi nalogi bezmissleno, ne vo blago lyudei a za unichtozheniya i ubiistva, vot chto prestupno.

Zaviidyu ???? K chemu ???? :lol: Ya imel v vidu chto tvoe vizskazivanie "эту черноту..." eto rassitskoe vizskazivanie

Politika Makkeina o nalogov budet na polzu samikh bogatikh kto poluchaet milioni, a politika nalogov Obami lyudei poluchaushchikh zarobotku do $ 200,000.Soglasno planu Obami seredina srednogo klassa - lyudi poluchayushchie $37,595 to $66,354 budut platit menshe nalogov na $1,042 god, a po planu Makeina te zhe lyudi budut platit menshe tolko $319. To est eti lyudi budut platit 3 raza menshe po planu Obami.Soglasno planu Makeina samuyu bolshuyu polzu poluchat lyudi poluchayushchie $2.8 milion v god ili bolshe.Plan Obam budet v polzui lyudei poluchayushchie $250,000 ili menshe v god.Plan Obami takzhe predlogaet menshe nalogov poluchayushchim menshe $75,000 v god.New York Times:http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/13/us/polit...4E4NlenYWHTGgAA rassistkim vizskazivaniem etot forum ne mesto...

Во первых Обама (к сожолению) тоже религиознии так же как Маккеин и никак не атеист. Во вторых твои слова о Маккеине могут так же удачно оброшчены к Бушу (люды так же говорили о Буше) и мы видем что представотел "старой, честной, религиозной, нравственной Америки" - Буш сделал с Америкой и с остолним миром.Маккеин ето второи Буш, и мы просто должны закончит бушизм...

lyudi ustali ot voini, bezrabotitsa i tsena gaza rastet, mnogie lyudi poteryali svoi doma iz za nizkikh tsen... nam nuzhni peremeni...

Ya dumayu i nadeyus chto nash sleduyushchii president Obama... Lyudi za peremeni i protiv voini znachit Obama pobedit...

To Հրաչ nauka ne oprovergaet zevsa ili ferii no eto nikak ne argument v polzu togo chto zevs ili ferii suhchestvuyut... netu nikakogo nauchnogo sereznogo issledovaniya ili fakta o sushchestvovanie xristianskogo ili kakogo to drugogo boga ili ferii i.t.d. to est xristianskii bog stoit v tom zhe ryadu kak zevs ili ferii ili mnogie skazochnie mificheskie geroi... Ti govorish: "Среди них, христианство единственное, что стопроцентно и исчерпаюше покрывает все наблюдения." "стопроцентно и исчерпаюше покрывает все наблюдения"??? ne ponimayu chto ti imeesh vvidu, eto prosto smeshno... Ti govorish: "Христиане делают предположение о том, что Бог всегда существовал, и безсмысленно рассуждать о том, кто его создал – Он Сам создал всё и всех, включая пространство и время этого космоса. Всё остальное объясняется исчерпающе. Неверующие делают многие разные предположения на многих разных уровнях и во многих варияциях; и всё же, ихние объяснения остаются неполными, по моему." eto odno predpolozhenie vo pervikh slishkom bolshoe i eto dlya nikh otvet na vse (mnogie i mnogie) voprosi to est ono nesrovnitelno bolshe chem vse ostolnie predpolozheniya... vo vtorikh eto prosto ne otvet, eto ne nauchno eto prosto nepozvolitelno... eto ukhod ot otveta, v nauke uchenie pitayutsya obyasnit kompleksnie, neponyatnie, trudnie veshchi ponyatnim prostim obrazom... potom tak kak nikto ne mozhet ptvetit chot eto takoe bog eto prosto ne otvet... konechno v nauke sushchestvuyut predpolozheniya, mnogie problemi neimeyu otveta no krasota, sila, vazhnost nauki eto to chto uchenie raboyut nad problemami... nelzya obyasnit neobyasnimie poka veshchi chem to eshche bolee neobyasnimim kak bog... eto ne nauchnii otvet... Ti govorish: "о первых, эти трое – не изолированные, какие-то странные люди, а есть тысячи и тысячи учёных, имена которых даже опубликованы на интернете, с христианскими – библейскими позициями." tvoi internet adresa ne pokazivayut tisyachi uchenikh, oni prosto potverzhdayut chto ikh ochen malo... konechno suchshestvuyut veriyushchie uchenie no mnogi takie ne vmeshivayut svoyu religiyu s naukoi... v toi zhe samoi sluchai v US kogda v sude inteligent design bil priznan religiei i ne naukoi (gde "uchenie" krupnie predstaviteli inteligent designa prosto ne mogli postoyat pered nauchnimi faktami) odin iz uchenikh vistupayushchikh protiv inteligent designa sam veruyushi xristianin no prekrasno ponimaet chto v nauke nelzya davat otvet govorya bog sdelal... to chto delaesh ti ili nekotorie uchenie kotorie pitayutsya sozdovat "llzhivie teorii" (kotorie ne viderzhivayut nauchnuyu kritiku, naprimer ya uzhe skazal cjto tak naivaemaya teoriya o irreducible complexities ne raz bilo nauchnim obrazom oproverzhen. ya sam videl kak eto delalsya v prisustvii avtora etoi "teorii" no lyudi kak ti prodalzhayut rasprostonyat lzhivuyu "nauku") chtobi prinosit boga ili religiyu v nauku, v shkoli v kachestve nauki eto krainee opasno... v nauke ne suzhdayut argumentami ili krasivimi rechami a faktami i ya ne razu videl kak lzhivie argumenti ID ili creationistov prosto ne viderzhivayut nauchnoi kritiki... pozhaluista molites 100%-no verite bibliyu (v nauke etogo prosto ne bivaet) no ne agitiruite nekorektnuyu informatsiyu...

Eto rossiiskoe sredtstvo informatsii prosto dizinformiruet govorya: "...который делает из Армении перевалочный пункт для террористов. " Eto prosto obichnoe dizinformatsiya. Here is the report on Armenia: Armenia Armenia’s counterterrorism contribution included its continued commitment to overflight and landing rights of U.S. military aircraft, additional security support to U.S. facilities in Armenia during times of terrorist alert, and the renewed deployment of peacekeeping forces in Iraq. In addition, Armenia joined the Global Initiative to Combat Nuclear Terrorism, and expressed interest in joining the Convention for Suppression of Acts of Nuclear Terrorism. In September, a delegation of inspectors from the UN Counterterrorism Committee Executive Directorate visited Armenia to ascertain its progress in complying with UNSCR 1372, and found that 12 of the 13 legal counterterrorism instruments had already been implemented or were soon to be implemented. And in July, the Armenian government succeeded in adapting the EU export control list of ”dual-use” commodities to its own national control list. The Financial Monitoring Center (FMC), a U.S.-supported financial intelligence unit within the Central Bank of Armenia (CBA), continued to make investigative strides against money-laundering. During the first nine months of the year, the FMC received twenty-four suspicious transaction reports (STRs), compared to twenty-three STRs during the same period in 2006, and six STRs in 2005. Under its current mandate, the CBA can freeze temporarily financial assets while referring the STRs to the competent authorities for further investigation. However, it must rely on private financial institutions to self-monitor and lacked an integrated IT system to store information on financial entities or individuals of concern. At the end of the year, no cases involving terrorist financing were uncovered or prosecuted. The FMC received Egmont Group membership this year. Armenia improved border security by maintaining an automated Border Management Information System (BMIS) that documented and stored the names of travelers at nearly all official points of entry, and contained criminal and terrorist watchlists as updated by the Republic of Armenia Police (RAP) and National Security Service (NSS). While Armenia has no bilateral agreement with the United States governing the sharing of information on travelers, the NSS and RAP shared information with the U.S. Embassy when they discovered fraudulent U.S. visas or other documents of interest to the United States Armenia’s warming relations with neighboring Iran continued, with Armenia hosting official visits by Iranian President Ahmadinejad (October) and Iranian Defense Minister Najjar (November). In addition to fostering closer diplomatic ties, these visits served to solidify previous bilateral commitments to develop joint energy and transportation projects. This closer cooperation has made Armenia more reluctant to criticize publicly objectionable Iranian conduct or join other UN member states in advocating for sanctions on the Iranian regime. Although Armenia continued to strengthen its counterterrorism capabilities and enhanced its counterterrorism cooperation with the United States and other international security organizations, its geographic location, porous borders, and loose visa regime still provided ample opportunities for traffickers of illicit materials, persons, and finances. Furthermore, endemic governmental corruption, a significant organized crime presence, and a large shadow economy made the country potentially vulnerable to money laundering and terrorist financing schemes. source: http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/crt/2007/103707.htm

6 “If your brother, your mother’s son, or your son or daughter, or the wife you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul, entice you secretly, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods’ (whom neither you nor your fathers have known, 7 of the gods of the peoples who are around you, near you or far from you, from one end of the earth to the other end), 8 you shall not yield to him or listen to him; and your eye shall not pity him, nor shall you spare or conceal him. 9 “But you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 10 “So you shall stone him to death because he has sought to seduce you from the LORD your God who brought you out from the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. 11 “Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and will never again do such a wicked thing among you. Deuteronomy 13

To Հրաչ Я никак не могу понят лудеи которие стараются свою религию представит как науку. Если тебе нравится ета книга и ти не замечая плохие отривки етои книги береш хорошие и ето помогает тебя, я не имею ничего против. Но нелзя приводя некоректную информатсию питатся показат религию как не толко историческую правду но и научную правду. У меня нету времени отвечат все пункти, но некоторие ремарки: 1. В науке нелзя обяснит вешчи христанским богом или зевсом или каким либо другим суперестественним мифическим явлением или сучшеством. Сут науки наити ответи обоснованние на научнии метод. Если ми на минуточку допустим ответ криешинистов что бог создал все (или что то) то тогда ето просто не ответ (пока не мере не научнии) потому что оно не отвечает на поставленни вопрос, потому что ми ни знаем что такои так називаемии бог или кто создал етого бога... ето просто не ответ... 2. Три имена которие ти принес известни в научном мире США как люди которие получауыт хорошие денги от консервативних христианских организатсии (таких как Discovery Institute) чотби распростронит псевдонауку creationsim котории сеичас називают "intelligent design" Они питаются показат что ета наука но ето не наука, ето не толко не принято научним миром но и не воздерживает критику. Oни (пропоненти так називаемого intelligent deign-a) не побликуют в научних peer-reviewed иследователских журналах где все серезние научние иследования побликуются для peer-review критуку, но вместо етого они побликуют книги и тв програми для публики просто потому что в научном мире их "теории" не воздерживают критику и не имют научную оснаванию не основани на серезних научних исследованиях и фактах... Например ти говориш о бактериальный флагеллуме как пример котории Майкл Бехе приносит как пример irreducible complexity. ета "тероия" било даказано kak completly wrong in peer-reviewed research papers and has been rejected by the scientific community...

ya bi postavil vopros nemnozhko po drugomu: chto eta strana, gde ne tolko netu provosudiya no i narod terpit oprovdanie poddonkov-ubiitsov-natsistov tem samim sposobstvuya protsvetaniyu natsizma ???

Kak Armyanin ya skoree progolosuyu za kandidatov kto za prioznanie genotsida chem togo kto protiv... Kak humanist ya skoree ne progolosuyu za kandidata kotorii xochet prodolzhit vpinu i ubiistva nevinnix lyudei... Kak US grazhdanin ya skoree ne progolosuyu za kandidata kotorii xochet prodolzhit tratit moi dengi na bezsmislenuyu voinu vmeste togo chtobi tratit v moei strane i vo blogo moei strani... to est ya nikogda ne progolsuyu za mccaina

Nekotorie misli: 1. Fox eto ne obektivnii kanal a prorespublikanskii i prokonservativnii kanal 2. Ya ne znayu kto pobedit no iskrenno nadeyus ne McCain po dvux prichin: - on xochet prodolzhit voinu i ostatsya v irake - on protiv rezolyutsii armyanskogo genotsida