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  1. Ты вообше кто катой? Я с тобой говорил? Что ты лезиш в наш разгповор? Потеряися...
  2. RWE joins Nabucco pipeline project - report http://www.forbes.com/markets/feeds/afx/20...afx4140072.html
  3. Ты вроде просил с тобой не обшаться. Может мне память изменяет? Если не изменяет, то тогда ты тоже перестан меня упоминать.
  4. Ты когда нибуть жил в Тбилиси?
  5. Большое спасибо за ети слова. Мой большой РЕСПЕКТ тебе!!! Баталион Баграмяна и вправду стыд Армянского народа, но ксажалению етого на етом форуме не признают. Им приятнее верит что Грузини во всем виноваты.
  6. Сделать образ врага они пытались и им удалос. После историй с Грузией опрос населения показал что 40% населения шитала Грузию врагом, а после Естонской историй мсето Грузий заняла Естония. Что ты еше називаеш "созданые образа врага"? Я еше ничего не говорю про запад, которий вечний член гилдий врагов таких опросов. Одним словом ты оправдываеш Россю. Ты говориш что Естоние, суверенному государству на своей территорий нелзя было переносить помятник советских солдат, которых они ненавидят (и не без причин) на другое место? Хашет Грузий: етой стане не надо было орестовать шпионов и изгнать из страны? А Россия по твоему хорошо поступила когда перекрыла все что можно и потом устроила на своей територий мини етническую чистку? Ответ, ты в етих ситуациях оправдываеш Россию и думаеш что она зашишала свой интересы? Просто ответ да, или нет. Можеш привести конкретуную фразу которую ты шитаеш шовинистическим лозунгом Грузий? А также можеш попадробнее написать как Грузия угражает самостаятельним нациям. Интересно тебя послушать. Страны прибалтики заслуживают уважения по краиной мере из за того что они все 50 лет знали что их окупировали и готовились тому времени когда освободяться. Они лутше всех смогли позаботиться о своих странах, когда советский союз разволилься. Я еше ничего не говорю про ихние економические успехи, которые шитаються образцовими. Зачем им надо было оставлять имена улиц и других географических единиц? Зачем им имет улицу ленина или город Киров? Не понайтно. Кажетсья вы тоже поменяли улицу Ленина, на улицу Месропа Машроца. Россия не то государство язик которой стоит исползовать. Она не такая силная, не такая богатая и идеология у них хреновая (или вообше нету). Они то сами понимают что они строят у себя в стране? Клептократию или Чекакратию? Потаму все делают выбор в ползу цивилизованного запада. Что тут странного? Да мифы создаються. Идеш в чужую серков на територий Турций. Удаляеш древние надписи, потом пишеш на своим алфавите кое что и спокоино можеш присвоит етот храм. Или вообше обнаглееш и питаешсиа доказать что твоей соседной нацие алфавит создал твой соотечественник, которий даже не знал язик той наций. Конечно тупо вигледит, но если будеш долго повтарять ее на форумах, блогах и статях сам в нее повериш и миф создан. Офигеть! вот так создаються мифы.
  7. Ты хорошенко перечитай статий. Там очень хорошо виден цеп деиствий, а не спонтанные шаги.
  8. Туркмений незачем просыпаться. Глевное что президент делает выбор в ползе запада. В етой стране народа ничего не спрашивали и не спрашивают досихпор. Может в будушем что то измениться. Европа стаблиная и пытаеться сохранить стабилность, потаму и тянеться к Туркменскому газу. Как видно доволно удачно. Путин весной торжествовал "великою победу Русской дипломатий" но оказалось зря.
  9. А никто и не отрецает что США создает образ врага. Но с человеком токорий отрецает елементарные истины говоря что Россия так не поступает, трудно спорить. Дело твое, вер чему хочеш. Вот когда говорят про квази-нацисткую страну и закомплексований народ почемуто в голову приходит совсем другая страна, которая клеиться к Россие. Начинаеш с отрицанием но закончиваеш тем что показиваеш как оброз врага деиствует на население.
  10. Факти приведени в твоей статие уже старые. Статя постом више преведенная мной было опубликовано 13-14 Сентября. Там написано что ЕС и Венгрия (которую никто не хера не спрашивает, повер мне) уже оказал поддержку проекту "Набуко". Так что со стороны ЕС есть все ок. Что касаеться вротого недастатка нашет нехватки газа для газопровода я уже написал на верху но повторю что президент Туркменистана Бердимухамедов послал Русских и как оказываеться собираеться строит риночную економику и демократический режим в стране. Догадаитесь почему. ЕС не сотрудничеет с тоталитарными режимами. Из за етого Назабраев всегда тянеться к Русским. Президент Туркмении пытается быть демократом МОСКВА, 19 сентября /Новости-Грузия/. Елена Шестернина, политический обозреватель /материал предоставлен «РИА Новости»/. Президент Туркмении Гурбангулы Бердымухаммедов объявил о своих планах амнистировать 9 тысяч заключенных. Решив продолжить традицию, заложенную его предшественником отцом всех туркмен Сапармуратом Ниязовым, это событие он приурочил к празднику - «Ночи всепрощения и всемогущества», 27-му дню священного для мусульман месяца Рамадан. Однако эта дата была выбрана не только (а скорее, не столько) из-за желания соблюсти ниязовские традиции. Все куда более прозаично – скоро Бердымухаммедов отправится в Нью-Йорк на Генеральную Ассамблею ООН, где было бы неплохо упомянуть о «демократических преобразованиях», проведенных в стране с момента его прихода к власти. Новый туркменский лидер накануне визита развернул бурную деятельность, цель которой продемонстрировать: хоть он и не отказывается от статуса «преемника», все же в отношениях с Западом готов вести себя куда более лояльно, чем Ниязов. К списку подобных дипломатических акций можно отнести и недавнее заявление о планах превратить Туркмению в страну с рыночной экономикой. Роль главного реформатора страны господин Бердымухаммедов только осваивает. Хотя он и старается. Пообещал повысить пенсии, зарплаты, стипендии, наладить разрушенную Ниязовым систему здравоохранения, вернуть туркменам запрещенный экс-президентом доступ в Интернет, полноценное среднее и высшее образование (при Ниязове среднее образование ограничивалось девятью годами), запретил отправлять школьников на уборку хлопка, и еще пообещал создать многопартийную систему. Официально никем не объявленная, но вовсю ведущаяся борьба с культом личности проявилась и в упразднении Международного фонда туркменбаши, и в отмене всенародного празднования Бердымухаммедовым собственного 50-летия, которое он отметил «в тесном семейном кругу» 29 июня. Но самое главное – с улиц городов таинственным образом стали пропадать памятники Ниязову. Его золотой профиль исчез с заставок всех четырех государственных телеканалов, титул Ниязова («туркменбаши») убрали с президентского штандарта и из текста государственной присяги, заменив его нейтральным «президент». Правда, изображения туркменбаши довольно быстро сменили портреты самого Бердымухаммедова. Что, впрочем, власти вполне могут оправдать «добровольной демонстрацией народа любви к новому вождю». Примерно этим же (а точнее «выдающимися заслугами в проведении внутренней и внешней политики») объяснили вручение Бердымухаммедову ордена «Ватан» («Родина»), изготовленного из килограмма золота и бриллиантов. Да и ниязовская «Рухнама» (как известно, кто ее прочитает трижды «станет умным и попадет в рай») постепенно уступает место в школах и вузах трудам нынешнего президента – медика по образованию, пропагандирующего здоровый образ жизни. Последняя инициатива по улучшению имиджа страны - грядущая амнистия – не первая за восемь месяцев правления Бердымухаммедова. Куда большее удивление вызвало августовское президентское помилование 11 человек, обвиненных в подготовке «покушения» на «отца всех туркмен» 25 ноября 2002 года. Среди освобожденных - бывший верховный муфтий Насрулла ибн Ибадулла, не раз критиковавший цитирование в мечетях «Рухнамы», как противоречащее канонам ислама. Помимо муфтия в «белом списке», правда, особо значимых фигур не оказалось: среди освобожденных – угодившая в застенки любовница одного из «предателей» Ольга Прокофьева и восьмидесятилетний старик. До сих пор не известна судьба главного фигуранта дела – бывшего министра иностранных дел Бориса Шикмурадова, ради собственного спасения написавшего в тюрьме под диктовку спецслужб книгу, разоблачающую заговорщиков. По неподтвержденным данным, сделка с властями его не спасла от смерти. С наследием Ниязова Бердымухаммедов борется и другими, более традиционными для туркменских политиков способами, – избавляясь от его окружения. «За серьезные просчеты в работе» уволены министр энергетики, министр строительства, министр железнодорожного сообщения. С ними власти пообещали разобраться в суде. Но самые масштабные чистки коснулись «силовиков»: арестованы министр национальной безопасности Гельдымурад Аширмухаммедов, начальник службы президентской охраны Акмурад Реджепов, считавшийся «правой рукой» Ниязова, и его сын, полковник национальной безопасности Нурмурат Реджепов. Реджеповы, долгие годы контролировавшие миллиардные финансовые потоки Ниязова за границей, были приговорены: отец к 20 годам тюрьмы, сын – к 13. Бывший спикер меджлиса Овезгельды Атаев (который по конституции должен был занять президентский пост, но был арестован в день смерти Ниязова) осужден на пять лет – по обвинению в «доведении до самоубийства своей невестки». На все освободившиеся посты Гурбангулы Мяликкулиевич назначает «своих людей» - в основном родственников и земляков из Геок-Тепинского района. Но о собственных достижениях – публичных и не слишком – новый президент предпочитает не очень распространяться. Не так давно на предложение одного из членов возглавляемой им Демократической партии (вообще-то до 1991 года она называлась компартией Туркмении) отныне именовать президента «великим вождем» тот ответил резкой критикой: «Я простой сын своего народа, и пока не великий. Чтобы стать великим, предстоит сделать еще многое». Что же до «великого туркменбаши», то он вряд ли бы удивился исчезновению с улиц и из кабинетов чиновников своих портретов. Ведь еще в 1998 году, выступая в Нью-Йорке, Ниязов обнаружил в себе дар пророка, заявив: «Я знаю, памятники после моей смерти разрушат, а деньги разорвут». Остается дождаться, когда новый президент объявит новую реформу – денежную. ***************************** Нашет "Голубой поток"-а: у Россий тут тоже проблемы. Кажеться их держут за кое что и еше давят: Эстония отказала российскому газопроводу Проекту Nord Stream придется огибать территориальные воды капризного соседа Владимир ЗИБРОВ — 21.09.2007 Эстония отказалась предоставить свою территорию балтийского дна для прокладки российского газопровода, который должен поставлять «голубое топливо» в Германию. Об этом вчера заявил министр иностранных дел Эстонии Урмас Паэт, сославшись на «государственные интересы в экономических водах». Он также признался, что эстонское «нет» созрело давно, но власти республики рассчитывали до последнего использовать исследования дна «для получения дополнительной информации об окружающей среде». Схитрили. Первоначально предполагалось, что труба от Выборга потянется вдоль побережья Финляндии, однако финны убедили сместить маршрут в южную часть финского залива, где более ровное дно. Теперь, после отказа эстонцев, не исключено, что Газпром вернется к более дорогостоящему финскому варианту. Эксперты же в очередной раз указывают на сложные сплетения чисто политических интересов стран, территориально задействованных в проекте. Так, по мнению заместителя гендиректора Центра политических технологий Сергея Михеева, Таллин изначально лоббирует вариант наземной прокладки газопровода по своей территории, что, помимо транзитных пошлин, предоставило бы возможности политического давления на Россию. То же самое можно сказать и про Польшу, которая, отказывая предоставить свое «море», активно предлагает «сушу». Напомним, что проект Nord Stream стартовал в декабре 2005 года (ранее он назывался Северо-Европейским газопроводом). Его протяженность - 1200 километров, в год по нему будет транспортироваться до 55 млрд. кубометров газа. Строительство должно завершиться к 2012 году. Есть еше одна проблема: ЕС принимает закон, после чего Газпром не сможет покупать енергообекты ЕС: Каежеться запад напал на все фронты однавременно.
  11. <br /><br /><br /> Как я вижу Грузия у вас тут вечная тема. Ета тема про Россию. Если хочеш обсуждать Грузию можеш переити в соседную тему, или просто открыть новую. Оброз врага нужен для того чтобы присвоить себе все и сделать так чтобы население етому радовалось. Может в Москве лутше живут чем в наших странах, но хуже чем ЕС. Страна которая владеет очень большим преродним богатством должен обеспечивать для своих граждан достоиную жизнь. Однако Германия, у которий только угол и железо и скалы превосходит Россию в несколько раз.
  12. ЕС уже оконцгателно дала согласие на проект "Набуко": NABUCCO GAS PIPELINE PROJECT IS BACK ON TRACK All players involved in the Nabucco gas pipeline project got their act together at a conference on September 14-15 in Budapest. The European Union demonstrated for the first time a hands-on commitment to the project. The Hungarian government announced its re-commitment after a year’s wavering. Azerbaijan’s Energy and Industry Minister, Natig Aliyev, confirmed his country’s willingness to help kick-start Nabucco’s first phase from the Shah-Deniz gas field’s first phase of production, pending solutions to Central Asian gas supplies for the pipeline’s second phase. The European Union’s Energy Commissioner, Andris Piebalgs, termed Nabucco “an embodiment of the existence of a common European energy policy” in his speech at the conference. He announced the appointment of Jozias van Aartsen, former minister of foreign affairs of the Netherlands, as EU coordinator of the Nabucco project, with a four-year mandate. The EU had included Nabucco among the four top-priority energy projects already last year, but the Commission took a long time before filling the coordinators’ posts. The proposed pipeline would originate in eastern Turkey and run for 3,300 kilometers via Bulgaria, Romania, and Hungary to Austria, with a projected capacity of 30-35 billion cubic meters of gas annually. The consortium includes Turkey’s pipeline company Botas, Bulgaria’s pipeline operator Bulgargaz, Romania’s Romgaz, Hungary’s MOL, and Austria’s OMV as project leader. The initial feasibility study, funded by the EU and completed in 2004, awaits updating. The cost of building the pipeline is currently estimated at €5 billion. The consortium seeks a sixth participant company in Western Europe. At the Budapest conference, top executives of Germany’s RWE and of Gaz de France announced the respective companies’ willingness to seriously consider joining the consortium. RWE, a major energy conglomerate in northwestern Germany, also announced its availability to invest up to €1 billion in Caspian upstream operations. Gaz de France -- which is now merging with the other French champion, Suez, into GDF-Suez, to be 35% state-owned -- had earlier begun negotiations to join the Nabucco and confirmed its interest at this conference. French President Nicolas Sarkozy, on a visit to Hungary that coincided with the Nabucco conference, encouraged GDF to support the Nabucco project. Sarkozy, who is the son of a Hungarian post-war refugee to France, addressed the Hungarian parliament to underscore his support for a common EU policy on energy and, specifically, for the Nabucco project to reduce dependence on Russian gas. Hungarian government leaders did their best to dispel the year-old perception that they would go for Gazprom’s Blue Stream-Two pipeline project, which is Nabucco’s rival. Prime Minister Ferenc Gyurcsany and Economics Minister Janos Koka (Socialist and Free Democrat, respectively) delivered keynote addresses re-committing the government to Nabucco. The prime minister pledged “Hungary’s total support,” as “it would be dumb for a country or a region to feel content with a single supplier.” In an accompanying statement, Koka admitted, “We were mistaken in repeating too often that the [Nabucco] project was just a dream, and so we actually contributed to the project’s remaining a dream.” Left almost unsaid was the opposition Fidesz party’s consistent political support for Nabucco, leading ultimately to the formation of a cross-party consensus in favor of the project. The project’s financial picture looks encouraging, on the whole. The consortium expects to cover 70% of the construction costs through bank loans, primarily from the European Investment Bank, which clearly shows interest in the project. The consortium is also in discussions with the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development and other institutions. Some of the consortium’s companies or governments are reluctant to contribute to the remaining 30% portion of the construction costs. The consortium, Nabucco Gas Pipeline International, hopes to reach decisions in the coming months with regard to choosing the sixth participant company, preparing the inter-governmental agreements, front-end engineering for the pipeline’s construction, and its first-phase financing. The consortium’s managing director, Reinhard Mitschek, presented a rather ambitious calendar for these steps, expecting to construction work to begin in 2009. In that case, the first gas should flow through the pipeline in 2012. Azerbaijan is waiting to be approached with specific, binding contracts on a take-or-pay basis for gas supplies to the Nabucco pipeline’s first phase. But this can only be a stopgap solution, if the pipeline is to be used at the projected capacity -- that is, if the project looks commercially viable in order to line up the investment funds. That issue in turn hinges on opening direct access to Central Asian gas or Iranian gas, assuming a major U.S. and EU engagement to resolve the political issues involved. (Hungarian and international media coverage, September 14-18) --Vladimir Socor
  13. Мое отношение к РОссий ето мое дело. А статю если можеш перечетай. Она и вправду интересная.
  14. Фишка в том что чтобы удержать народ, которий живет в плохих условиях руководству нужен "враг". Сначала Грузия было врагом, потом Естония. Запад и США ета вечные враги, которые "хотят погубить Российскую державу", но руководство во гвале Владимир Владимеровича всегда на чеку и не допустит чтобы "подлые имперялисты" угражали Российскои "свешенной империй".
  15. Вот очень хорошая статия про Россию из "Економиста": The making of a neo-KGB state Aug 23rd 2007 | MOSCOW From The Economist print edition Political power in Russia now lies with the FSB, the KGB's successor ON THE evening of August 22nd 1991—16 years ago this week—Alexei Kondaurov, a KGB general, stood by the darkened window of his Moscow office and watched a jubilant crowd moving towards the KGB headquarters in Lubyanka Square. A coup against Mikhail Gorbachev had just been defeated. The head of the KGB who had helped to orchestrate it had been arrested, and Mr Kondaurov was now one of the most senior officers left in the fast-emptying building. For a moment the thronged masses seemed to be heading straight towards him. Then their anger was diverted to the statue of Felix Dzerzhinsky, the KGB's founding father. A couple of men climbed up and slipped a rope round his neck. Then he was yanked up by a crane. Watching “Iron Felix” sway in mid-air, Mr Kondaurov, who had served in the KGB since 1972, felt betrayed “by Gorbachev, by Yeltsin, by the impotent coup leaders”. He remembers thinking, “I will prove to you that your victory will be short-lived.” Those feelings of betrayal and humiliation were shared by 500,000 KGB operatives across Russia and beyond, including Vladimir Putin, whose resignation as a lieutenant-colonel in the service had been accepted only the day before. Eight years later, though, the KGB men seemed poised for revenge. Just before he became president, Mr Putin told his ex-colleagues at the Federal Security Service (FSB), the KGB's successor, “A group of FSB operatives, dispatched under cover to work in the government of the Russian federation, is successfully fulfilling its task.” He was only half joking. Over the two terms of Mr Putin's presidency, that “group of FSB operatives” has consolidated its political power and built a new sort of corporate state in the process. Men from the FSB and its sister organisations control the Kremlin, the government, the media and large parts of the economy—as well as the military and security forces. According to research by Olga Kryshtanovskaya, a sociologist at the Russian Academy of Sciences, a quarter of the country's senior bureaucrats are siloviki—a Russian word meaning, roughly, “power guys”, which includes members of the armed forces and other security services, not just the FSB. The proportion rises to three-quarters if people simply affiliated to the security services are included. These people represent a psychologically homogeneous group, loyal to roots that go back to the Bolsheviks' first political police, the Cheka. As Mr Putin says repeatedly, “There is no such thing as a former Chekist.” By many indicators, today's security bosses enjoy a combination of power and money without precedent in Russia's history. The Soviet KGB and its pre-revolutionary ancestors did not care much about money; power was what mattered. Influential though it was, the KGB was a “combat division” of the Communist Party, and subordinate to it. As an outfit that was part intelligence organisation, part security agency and part secret political police, it was often better informed, but it could not act on its own authority; it could only make “recommendations”. In the 1970s and 1980s it was not even allowed to spy on the party bosses and had to act within Soviet laws, however inhuman. The KGB provided a crucial service of surveillance and suppression; it was a state within a state. Now, however, it has become the state itself. Apart from Mr Putin, “There is nobody today who can say no to the FSB,” says Mr Kondaurov. All important decisions in Russia, says Ms Kryshtanovskaya, are now taken by a tiny group of men who served alongside Mr Putin in the KGB and who come from his home town of St Petersburg. In the next few months this coterie may well decide the outcome of next year's presidential election. But whoever succeeds Mr Putin, real power is likely to remain in the organisation. Of all the Soviet institutions, the KGB withstood Russia's transformation to capitalism best and emerged strongest. “Communist ideology has gone, but the methods and psychology of its secret police have remained,” says Mr Kondaurov, who is now a member of parliament. Scotched, not killed Mr Putin's ascent to the presidency of Russia was the result of a chain of events that started at least a quarter of a century earlier, when Yuri Andropov, a former head of the KGB, succeeded Leonid Brezhnev as general secretary of the Communist Party. Andropov's attempts to reform the stagnating Soviet economy in order to preserve the Soviet Union and its political system have served as a model for Mr Putin. Early in his presidency Mr Putin unveiled a plaque at the Lubyanka headquarters that paid tribute to Andropov as an “outstanding political figure”. Staffed by highly educated, pragmatic men recruited in the 1960s and 1970s, the KGB was well aware of the dire state of the Soviet economy and the antique state of the party bosses. It was therefore one of the main forces behind perestroika, the loose policy of restructuring started by Mr Gorbachev in the 1980s. Perestroika's reforms were meant to give the Soviet Union a new lease of life. When they threatened its existence, the KGB mounted a coup against Mr Gorbachev. Ironically, this precipitated the Soviet collapse. The defeat of the coup gave Russia an historic chance to liquidate the organisation. “If either Gorbachev or Yeltsin had been bold enough to dismantle the KGB during the autumn of 1991, he would have met little resistance,” wrote Yevgenia Albats, a journalist who has courageously covered the grimmest chapters in the KGB's history. Instead, both Mr Gorbachev and Yeltsin tried to reform it. The “blue blood” of the KGB—the First Chief Directorate, in charge of espionage—was spun off into a separate intelligence service. The rest of the agency was broken into several parts. Then, after a few short months of talk about openness, the doors of the agency slammed shut again and the man charged with trying to reform it, Vadim Bakatin, was ejected. His glum conclusion, delivered at a conference in 1993, was that although the myth about the KGB's invincibility had collapsed, the agency itself was very much alive. Indeed it was. The newly named Ministry of Security continued to “delegate” the officers of the “active reserve” into state institutions and commercial firms. Soon KGB officers were staffing the tax police and customs services. As Boris Yeltsin himself admitted by the end of 1993, all attempts to reorganise the KGB were “superficial and cosmetic”; in fact, it could not be reformed. “The system of political police has been preserved,” he said, “and could be resurrected.” Yet Mr Yeltsin, though he let the agency survive, did not use it as his power base. In fact, the KGB was cut off from the post-Soviet redistribution of assets. Worse still, it was upstaged and outwitted by a tiny group of opportunists, many of them Jews (not a people beloved by the KGB), who became known as the oligarchs. Between them, they grabbed most of the country's natural resources and other privatised assets. KGB officers watched the oligarchs get super-rich while they stayed cash-strapped and sometimes even unpaid. Some officers did well enough, but only by offering their services to the oligarchs. To protect themselves from rampant crime and racketeering, the oligarchs tried to privatise parts of the KGB. Their large and costly security departments were staffed and run by ex-KGB officers. They also hired senior agency men as “consultants”. Fillip Bobkov, the head of the Fifth Directorate (which dealt with dissidents), worked for a media magnate, Vladimir Gusinsky. Mr Kondaurov, a former spokesman for the KGB, worked for Mikhail Khodorkovsky, who ran and largely owned Yukos. “People who stayed in the FSB were B-list,” says Mark Galeotti, a British analyst of the Russian special services. Lower-ranking staff worked as bodyguards to Russia's rich. (Andrei Lugovoi, the chief suspect in the murder in London last year of Alexander Litvinenko, once guarded Boris Berezovsky, an oligarch who, facing arrest in Russia, now lives in Britain.) Hundreds of private security firms staffed by KGB veterans sprang up around the country and most of them, though not all, kept their ties to their alma mater. According to Igor Goloshchapov, a former KGB special-forces commando who is now a spokesman for almost 800,000 private security men, In the 1990s we had one objective: to survive and preserve our skills. We did not consider ourselves to be separate from those who stayed in the FSB. We shared everything with them and we saw our work as just another form of serving the interests of the state. We knew that there would come a moment when we would be called upon. That moment came on New Year's Eve 1999, when Mr Yeltsin resigned and, despite his views about the KGB, handed over the reins of power to Mr Putin, the man he had put in charge of the FSB in 1998 and made prime minister a year later. The inner circle As the new president saw things, his first task was to restore the management of the country, consolidate political power and neutralise alternative sources of influence: oligarchs, regional governors, the media, parliament, opposition parties and non-governmental organisations. His KGB buddies helped him with the task. The most politically active oligarchs, Mr Berezovsky, who had helped Mr Putin come to power, and Mr Gusinsky, were pushed out of the country, and their television channels were taken back into state hands. Mr Khodorkovsky, Russia's richest man, was more stubborn. Despite several warnings, he continued to support opposition parties and NGOs and refused to leave Russia. In 2003 the FSB arrested him and, after a show trial, helped put him in jail. To deal with unruly regional governors, Mr Putin appointed special envoys with powers of supervision and control. Most of them were KGB veterans. The governors lost their budgets and their seats in the upper house of the Russian parliament. Later the voters lost their right to elect them. All the strategic decisions, according to Ms Kryshtanovskaya, were and still are made by the small group of people who have formed Mr Putin's informal politburo. They include two deputy heads of the presidential administration: Igor Sechin, who officially controls the flow of documents but also oversees economic matters, and Viktor Ivanov, responsible for personnel in the Kremlin and beyond. Then come Nikolai Patrushev, the head of the FSB, and Sergei Ivanov, a former defence minister and now the first deputy prime minister. All are from St Petersburg, and all served in intelligence or counter-intelligence. Mr Sechin is the only one who does not advertise his background. That two of the most influential men, Mr Sechin and Viktor Ivanov, hold only fairly modest posts (each is a deputy head) and seldom appear in public is misleading. It was, after all, common Soviet practice to have a deputy, often linked to the KGB, who carried more weight than his notional boss. “These people feel more comfortable when they are in the shadows,” explains Ms Kryshtanovskaya. In any event, each of these KGB veterans has a plethora of followers in other state institutions. One of Mr Patrushev's former deputies, also from the KGB, is the minister of the interior, in charge of the police. Sergei Ivanov still commands authority within the army's headquarters. Mr Sechin has close family ties to the minister of justice. The prosecution service, which in Soviet times at least nominally controlled the KGB's work, has now become its instrument, along with the tax police. The political clout of these siloviki is backed by (or has resulted in) state companies with enormous financial resources. Mr Sechin, for example, is the chairman of Rosneft, Russia's largest state-run oil company. Viktor Ivanov heads the board of directors of Almaz-Antei, the country's main producer of air-defence rockets, and of Aeroflot, the national airline. Sergei Ivanov oversees the military-industrial complex and is in charge of the newly created aircraft-industry monopoly. But the siloviki reach farther, into all areas of Russian life. They can be found not just in the law-enforcement agencies but in the ministries of economy, transport, natural resources, telecoms and culture. Several KGB veterans occupy senior management posts in Gazprom, Russia's biggest company, and its pocket bank, Gazprombank (whose vice-president is the 26-year-old son of Sergei Ivanov). Alexei Gromov, Mr Putin's trusted press secretary, sits on the board of Channel One, Russia's main television channel. The railway monopoly is headed by Vladimir Yakunin, a former diplomat who served his country at the United Nations in New York and is believed to have held a high rank in the KGB. Sergei Chemezov, Mr Putin's old KGB friend from his days in Dresden (where the president worked from 1985 to 1990), is in charge of Rosoboronexport, a state arms agency that has grown on his watch into a vast conglomerate. The list goes on. Many officers of the active reserve have been seconded to Russia's big companies, both private and state-controlled, where they draw a salary while also remaining on the FSB payroll. “We must make sure that companies don't make decisions that are not in the interest of the state,” one current FSB colonel explains. Being an active-reserve officer in a firm is, says another KGB veteran, a dream job: “You get a huge salary and you get to keep your FSB card.” One such active-reserve officer is the 26-year-old son of Mr Patrushev who was last year seconded from the FSB to Rosneft, where he is now advising Mr Sechin. (After seven months at Rosneft, Mr Putin awarded Andrei Patrushev the Order of Honour, citing his professional successes and “many years of conscientious work”.) Rosneft was the main recipient of Yukos's assets after the firm was destroyed. The attack on Yukos, which entered its decisive stage just as Mr Sechin was appointed to Rosneft, was the first and most blatant example of property redistribution towards the siloviki, but not the only one. Mikhail Gutseriev, the owner of Russneft, a fast-growing oil company, was this month forced to give up his business after being accused of illegal activities. For a time, he had refused; but, as he explained, “they tightened the screws” and one state agency after another—the general prosecutor's office, the tax police, the interior ministry—began conducting checks on him. From oligarchy to spookocracy The transfer of financial wealth from the oligarchs to the siloviki was perhaps inevitable. It certainly met with no objection from most Russians, who have little sympathy for “robber barons”. It even earned the siloviki a certain popularity. But whether they will make a success of managing their newly acquired assets is doubtful. “They know how to break up a company or to confiscate something. But they don't know how to manage a business. They use force simply because they don't know any other method,” says an ex-KGB spook who now works in business. Curiously, the concentration of such power and economic resources in the hands of a small group of siloviki, who identify themselves with the state, has not alienated people in the lower ranks of the security services. There is trickle-down of a sort: the salary of an average FSB operative has gone up several times over the past decade, and a bit of freelancing is tolerated. Besides, many Russians inside and outside the ranks believe that the transfer of assets from private hands to the siloviki is in the interests of the state. “They are getting their own back and they have the right to do so,” says Mr Goloshchapov. The rights of the siloviki, however, have nothing to do with the formal kind that are spelled out in laws or in the constitution. What they are claiming is a special mission to restore the power of the state, save Russia from disintegration and frustrate the enemies that might weaken it. Such idealistic sentiments, says Mr Kondaurov, coexist with an opportunistic and cynical eagerness to seize the situation for personal or institutional gain. The security servicemen present themselves as a tight brotherhood entitled to break any laws for the sake of their mission. Their high language is laced with profanity, and their nationalism is often combined with contempt for ordinary people. They are, however, loyal to each other. Competition to enter the service is intense. The KGB picked its recruits carefully. Drawn from various institutes and universities, they then went to special KGB schools. Today the FSB Academy in Moscow attracts the children of senior siloviki; a vast new building will double its size. The point, says Mr Galeotti, the British analyst, “is not just what you learn, but who you meet there”. Graduates of the FSB Academy may well agree. “A Chekist is a breed,” says a former FSB general. A good KGB heritage—a father or grandfather, say, who worked for the service—is highly valued by today's siloviki. Marriages between siloviki clans are also encouraged. Viktor Cherkesov, the head of Russia's drug-control agency, who was still hunting dissidents in the late 1980s, has summed up the FSB psychology in an article that has become the manifesto of the siloviki and a call for consolidation. We [siloviki] must understand that we are one whole. History ruled that the weight of supporting the Russian state should fall on our shoulders. I believe in our ability, when we feel danger, to put aside everything petty and to remain faithful to our oath. As well as invoking secular patriotism, Russia's security bosses can readily find allies among the priesthood. Next to the FSB building in Lubyanka Square stands the 17th-century church of the Holy Wisdom, “restored in August 2001with zealous help from the FSB,” says a plaque. Inside, freshly painted icons gleam with gold. “Thank God there is the FSB. All power is from God and so is theirs,” says Father Alexander, who leads the service. A former KGB general agrees: “They really believe that they were chosen and are guided by God and that even the high oil prices they have benefited from are God's will.” Sergei Grigoryants, who has often been interrogated and twice imprisoned (for anti-Soviet propaganda) by the KGB, says the security chiefs believe “that they are the only ones who have the real picture and understanding of the world.” At the centre of this picture is an exaggerated sense of the enemy, which justifies their very existence: without enemies, what are they for? “They believe they can see enemies where ordinary people can't,” says Ms Kryshtanovskaya. “A few years ago, we succumbed to the illusion that we don't have enemies and we have paid dearly for that,” Mr Putin told the FSB in 1999. It is a view shared by most KGB veterans and their successors. The greatest danger comes from the West, whose aim is supposedly to weaken Russia and create disorder. “They want to make Russia dependent on their technologies,” says a current FSB staffer. “They have flooded our market with their goods. Thank God we still have nuclear arms.” The siege mentality of the siloviki and their anti-Westernism have played well with the Russian public. Mr Goloshchapov, the private agents' spokesman, expresses the mood this way: “In Gorbachev's time Russia was liked by the West and what did we get for it? We have surrendered everything: eastern Europe, Ukraine, Georgia. NATO has moved to our borders.” From this perspective, anyone who plays into the West's hands at home is the internal enemy. In this category are the last free-thinking journalists, the last NGOs sponsored by the West and the few liberal politicians who still share Western values. To sense the depth of these feelings, consider the response of one FSB officer to the killing of Anna Politkovskaya, a journalist whose books criticising Mr Putin and his brutal war in Chechnya are better known outside than inside Russia. “I don't know who killed her, but her articles were beneficial to the Western press. She deserved what she got.” And so, by this token, did Litvinenko, the ex-KGB officer poisoned by polonium in London last year. In such a climate, the idea that Russia's security services are entitled to deal ruthlessly with enemies of the state, wherever they may be, has gained wide acceptance and is supported by a new set of laws. One, aimed at “extremism”, gives the FSB and other agencies ample scope to pursue anyone who acts or speaks against the Kremlin. It has already been invoked against independent analysts and journalists. A lawyer who complained to the Constitutional Court about the FSB's illegal tapping of his client's telephone has been accused of disclosing state secrets. Several scientists who collaborated with foreign firms are in jail for treason. Despite their loyalty to old Soviet roots, today's security bosses differ from their predecessors. They do not want a return to communist ideology or an end to capitalism, whose fruits they enjoy. They have none of the asceticism of their forebears. Nor do they relish mass repression: in a country where fear runs deep, attacking selected individuals does the job. But the concentration of such power and money in the hands of the security services does not bode well for Russia. <a name="and_not_very_good_at_their_job"> And not very good at their job The creation of enemies may smooth over clan disagreements and fuel nationalism, but it does not make the country more secure or prosperous. While the FSB reports on the ever-rising numbers of foreign spies, accuses scientists of treason and hails its “brotherhood”, Russia remains one of the most criminalised, corrupt and bureaucratic countries in the world. During the crisis at a school in Beslan in 2004, the FSB was good at harassing journalists trying to find out the truth. But it could not even cordon off the school in which the hostages were held. Under the governorship of an ex-FSB colleague of Mr Putin, Ingushetia, the republic that borders Chechnya, has descended into a new theatre of war. The army is plagued by crime and bullying. Private businessmen are regularly hassled by law-enforcement agencies. Russia's foreign policy has turned out to be self-fulfilling: by perpetually denouncing enemies on every front, it has helped to turn many countries from potential friends into nervous adversaries. The rise to power of the KGB veterans should not have been surprising. In many ways, argues Inna Solovyova, a Russian cultural historian, it had to do with the qualities that Russians find appealing in their rulers: firmness, reserve, authority and a degree of mystery. “The KGB fitted this description, or at least knew how to seem to fit it.” But are they doing the country any good? “People who come from the KGB are tacticians. We have never been taught to solve strategic tasks,” says Mr Kondaurov. The biggest problem of all, he and a few others say, is the agency's loss of professionalism. He blushes when he talks about the polonium capers in London. “We never sank to this level,” he sighs. “What a blow to the country's reputation!”
  16. Кстати про прикаспииский газопоровод: вы знаите что Россия, Казахстан и Туркменистан собирались подписать соглашение 12ого Сентября, но етого не случилось, потаму что президент Туркменистана Бердимухамедов в тот же день уехал в Америку? Так что Россие и ее южним соратникам рано торжествовать победу. Запад работает.
  17. У вас слижком высокие проценты. Сельское хозяиство (включая вина) в Грузий составляет лиш 10% ГДП. Так что ето не может повлеят на страну. Закрития границ не катастрофичная веш. Проблемы с реализацией селско-хозяиственных продуктов веш временная, которая решиться когда произвадители наидут новые ринки и все. Не надо драматизировать и придумовать историй. Ну да, я тоже не понимаю почему Армяни не пют знаменитое Армянское вино и предпачитают Грузинский. Хоть убей, не понимаю. Даже не знаю посмеяться над вами или пожалеть вас? Вы когда то смотрели на мировую карту? На кого может Армения повлеять, вы что над собой смеетесь? Вот когда я захожу на етот форум кажеться что есть два мира: обычний мир и Армянский мир. Странно как вы умудряитесь жить в таких иллузиях? Даже не калкуляторе не могу сошитать, какой по числу ты Армянин, которий утверждает что был в Грузий и заметил насколко там все плохо. Етот финт уже состарилься, придумай что нибуть новое. А когда вернулься домой в Армению не заметил что у вас (даже в Ереване)економический гораздо хуже чем в Грузий?
  18. Однако по желанию модераторов темы даже удаляються. Помниться такое. Я лиш предложил и обяснил мой мотив. Ваше дело закривать ее или нет.
  19. Ето отрывок из статий: http://www.economist.com/world/displaystor...tory_id=9682621 Ну что тебе сказать? Ты точно не выспалься ночю...
  20. Тебе явно нужно отоспаться. Как мне интересно откуда вы такое берете?
  21. Сам знаеш что никто не радуеться ничей смерти. Не надо драматизировать и бросать ненужные лозунги. Иди выспись хорошенко...
  22. На что тебе ответит? Я уже сказал почему хочу чтобы ета тема была закрыта. Модератор отказалься.
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