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Vsem Sovetyu posmatrets..... The Obama Deception

Parza yreme estexelen tirel... Gides internete menak hasyastan.com ov chi verchanym enets vor yete irants azat kartsiknere dyr chigalis da irants problemna ime chi... Isk menk kepatrastvenk....

Herik exav bol exav xo kerake chenk engel derants dzere? Arten isksakn Hay patritnere votkien kagnym bolorin oligarxnerits skesats verchatrsats gox avazak Karabaxtsi klanavikneri hetevitsenk engnely! Vso zakalibali yzhe yrodi!

Larry Wilson: Matchup Uneven in Treaty Posted on 02 October 2009. BY LARRY WILSON Public Editor, Pasadena Star-News In diplomacy, formal accord is good, right? It’s what diplomats are after – harmony, down on paper. But Raffi Hamparian of the Armenian National Committee notes that in geopolitics, the players are of uneven size, and the little guys can end up getting squished. When it comes to big Turkey – 75 million people, massive Eurasian territories – and little Armenia – 3 million people, landlocked, small – it’s easy to lay odds on the situation. When you throw in powers such as the United States and Russia, who are behind much of the diplomatic jockeying in that part of the world, the odds get … odder. So in the matter of a treaty – this one is termed the protocols – being fast-tracked through the legislatures of Turkey and Armenia with some arm-twisting from our own State Department, Hamparian sees the wrestling match this way: “It’s like Hulk Hogan coming after my daughter.” While the fledgling Armenian government is prepared to sign off on the protocols with its neighbor, members of the large Armenian Diaspora throughout the world are not at all sure about it. As with other nations afflicted with historical tragedy, there are many more people of Armenian descent elsewhere – something in the order of 8 million – than there are in the homeland. That tragedy was, of course, the genocide of about 1.5 million Armenians in 1915 at the hands of the Ottoman Turkish empire. Because of the generations of Armenian families who have long called the Pasadena area home, we know all about that genocide. And it’s not just passed-down anecdotes from the old country – it’s straight history. The nonpartisan International Association of Genocide Scholars recognizes this fact. In a letter to President Obama, the group’s president quotes Adolf Hitler in 1939 in a talk to his military advisers as he was planning his own genocide: “Who today, after all, remembers the annihilation of the Armenians?” This weekend the president of Armenia, Serzh Sargsyan, will be in the Southland as part of a U.S. tour aimed at building support for the protocol with Turkey. Much as they’re glad to have an independent nation in their homeland, most local Armenian Americans are not pleased with the prospects of the treaty. Thousands have rallied in Glendale against it – Hamparian says about 1,500 people from Pasadena took part – and thousands more will demonstrate at the Beverly Hills Hotel on Sunday. They say the protocols are not all bad – the treaty aims to establish a peace, or at least a detente, between the neighbors, along with normalized trade relations. But its only reference to the genocide are with weasel words such as calling for “a dialogue on the historical dimension” and “an impartial and scientific examination.” I agree with Hamparian: It’s like bringing the flat-Earthers to a global conference on roundness, as if there were a question. In Turkey, Article 301 of the penal code makes it illegal to even acknowledge the genocide. Where’s the justice in protocols with a nation such as that? Public Editor Larry Wilson’s blog is www.insidesocal.com/publiceye.

Serjikin mekel bolor Karabaxtsi Klanin voronk tirelen Hayastane kaxaxana hasnym! Derank seranist heto petka shat ezgysh linen Hayastanits dyrs galy zhamanak...

Lebanese Armenians Rally Against Protocols Posted on 02 October 2009. BEIRUT–The Armenian community of Lebanon rallied on the evening of Wednesday, September 30 to express their opposition to the signing of the Armenia-Turkey protocols. The public rally came days ahead of President Serzh Sarkisian’s expected visit to Beirut, where he will attempt to defend his administration’s conciliatory policy on Turkey and the protocols on establishing relations that he is slated to sign on October 10. http://stoptheprotocols.com/2009/10/...nst-protocols/

Poll: Over 90% of Armenian Americans Oppose Protocols Posted on 02 October 2009. Glendale, CA/Watertown, MA: Ninety percent of Armenian Americans oppose the adoption of the proposed Turkey-Armenia Protocols, according to a two-week, national on-line poll taken by Asbarez and the Armenian Weekly. The results of the poll represent a statistically sound and geographically diverse sample of responses from 2,400 respondents. The poll results are provided below: 1. Do you agree with the creation of a historical commission of Turks and Armenians to study whether the events of 1915-23 were a genocide? Yes: 11.8% No: 88.2% 2. Do you agree with Armenia officially recognizing its current border with Turkey? Yes: 11.4% No: 88.6% 3. Do you agree that the lifting of Turkey’s blockade of Armenia should be linked to Azerbaijan’s approval of a Nagorno Karabagh settlement? Yes: 5.3% No: 94.7% 4. Are the recent Turkey-Armenia protocols better for Turkey or Armenia? Better for Armenia: 5.2% Better for Turkey: 94.8% 5. Do you support the adoption of the Turkey-Armenia protocols? Yes: 9.5% No: 90.5% http://stoptheprotocols.com/2009/10/...ose-protocols/

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Axer shat yerkara... Pastoren xoske etyma gazi yev nafti trybaneri masin. Rysnere mekel Washingtonne Haystani vera sexmym. Yes vaxytsei asym vor Hayastanym petka Xekavari Hayastantsi, Haystanym tsenvats mart vochte yrish andznavorytsynner.

I think these new agreements with turkey 'smell' energy & pipelines.... Why this sudden rush and why now? Take a look in the below article. Makes much (business) sense. Russia and Armenia are involved (aka control) in Nabbuco which without Iranian and Ajerbaijani gas supply is doomed. With a little luck this small 'bump' in the Nabucco pipeline map we discussed some time ago maybe flattened Sounds strange, no? Russians to help Nabbuco! What however Armenia must carefully think, plan and negotiate with turkey is the National issues which the Armenians in diaspora had in mind when demostrating against Sargsyan in Paris. Tough equation to solve! Russian-European-Turkish energy consensus & Armenia In the context of the recently published Armenian-Turkish agreements, which, if ratified by the two Parliaments, will inaugurate the bilateral relations, the press provided extensive coverage of Armenia’s possible involvement in the Nabucco project. Let us not make guesses about whether it is a PR action designed to shape a positive public opinion in Armenia on the threshold of an important historical process or a realistic outlook. We will only try to outline the regional and geopolitical importance of the project for Armenia and Armenia’s importance for the project. It may seem paradoxical, but the many years of blockade of Armenia by Azerbaijan and Turkey allowed the country to form a rather balanced energy system, which, perhaps, is much more efficient and better integrated than its Georgian and Azerbaijani counterparts. We can speak of Georgia’s unstable and rather vulnerable system, which is almost fully dependent on import, whereas its Armenian counterpart is an export-oriented one, which has alternative routes and a gas storage system, a system of hydro-and heat-power plants being modernized, projects of constructing an Iran-Armenia pipeline, and, to crown it all, the planned construction of a new nuclear-power plant. It would be at least illogical to speak of a blockade with Armenia having such an infrastructure. The considerable assistance on the part of the Russian state-run holdings – Gasprom, Inter-RAO and Rosatom – contributes to the stability of Armenia’s energy system as well. Let us not guess at whether it is good or bad. We are only stating the fact of the system’s uninterrupted operation, as well as of long-term investment plans. Moreover, the three companies’ interests and projects are interrelated and are aimed at expanding the Armenian energy business to the neighboring countries. This accounts for the plans to “synchronize” the countries’ energy systems, with Armenia to become “the central point.” Armenia’s involvement in the Nabucco project implies that of Russia and Iran, as well as the laying of an Armenia-Turkey gas main or the connection of the Iran-Armenia gas main to the Baku-Tbilisi-Erzrum gas main, which supplies gas from the Shah Deniz gas field. It is obvious that the project will be a success only if Iran and Russia are involved. That became clear the very moment Russia initiated the South Stream project, which actually put an end to the planned construction of a Transcaspian gas pipeline. Under the South Stream project Russia launched an initiative of a Caspian-bordering gas pipeline thereby crabbing Azerbaijan’s game. The vigorous actions of Russia and China in Central Asia made the Nabucco clients put up with the idea of involving Iran in the project and that of prospective supply of Turkmen gas to the South Caucasus, with the gas main to bypass the Caspian Sea in the south. That is it will run through Iran. Thus, the Armenian and Iranian territories will be used for the Central Asian gas to reach the Baku-Tbilisi-Erzrum gas main, as Azerbaijan will not be able to operate it at its full capacity in the near future. An optimal solution – an Armenia-Turkey gas main – is not ruled out as well. An argument in favor of this is, particularly, Gazprom President Alexey Miller’s statement that the Armenian territory could be used for Iranian-Turkish “swaps.” Speaking of the “swaps”, Miller may have implied the “gas for energy” scheme as well. The commissioning of the 5th power unit of the Hrazdan heat power plant, which is the terminal point of the Iran-Armenia gas main, will launch a unique technological scheme, Iranian gas for Armenian electric energy. Chinese specialists are now constructing the 5th power unit ordered by the ArmRosgazprom Company (Gazprom 80%, RA Government 20%). Iran and Armenia are also implementing a high-voltage power line construction program. Settling its problems with Turkey, will enable Armenia to enter the energy markets of Turkey and Nakhichevan, which will meet Azerbaijan’s own interests. The implementation of the Nabucco project with Armenia’s participation will mean a Russian-European energy consensus with Turkey’s participation. An argument in favor of the last option is official Ankara’s completely unexpected consent to the South Stream gas pipeline – a supposed rival to Nabucco — running through Turkey’s territorial waters. However, the distribution of resources between the two projects and the refusal to lay a pipeline through the Caspian bottom resolved the most serious political disagreements between the interested parties. Fears about future Russian-Ukrainian relations contributed to the Russian-European consensus on the Nabucco and South Stream projects. We should remember that Europe felt “all the pleasures” of cold winter without gas last year. NEWS.am Analytical Department