Fadei

Hargeli Ara. Es hamadzainem vor antaneli bane khoz mart@, baits aveli vat bane adel martun, vochte nra khozutyun@, kekhtotutyun@. W.Saroyan "Hishek amen mart da dzer nman mi kentanie , Adek charutyun@ u kekhtotutyun@, baits voch martkants char ev kekhtot''Portsek gtnel ain khor imast@ vor ka ais togheri mech. Isk ete uzumek vor lriv imanak im uzadz@, khtrumem kartatsek Selingery "freny" patmutyun@. Aintegh Frenin dzer nman cher uzum hamakerpvel markants shnutyan, agahutyan u tsutsadraganutyan het... Na khortakveler depressiai mech u ira ekhpair@, mi hnaramit ev hyurahatuk derasan Zuin, asats vor, ches gtnum vor ko anverch ditoghutuun@ u karozner@ da ko egoizmne... -Du asumes vor nrank egoizmov kutakvats tsngachoken linum tsadzr hajuykneri u anmarkainutyunen pashtum, baits che vor ko aradznele egoizm, du uzumes vor nrank darnan ko uzadzi pes... Es havatumem vor- "-Amen inch mer patcharove-@ntadets nran Zuin. -Menk urodnerenk, sranov asvadze amen inch. En erku ailandakner@ vertsrin mez, sirun manuknerin, u kandakin mezanits erku urodner, vokeshnchin mez urod printsipner uprdz Menk erku tatuirovann(nakolkanerov lih) tsigan paravi pessenk dartse, u minch kyanki verch chenk unena mi rope hangis minchev tei verchi mart@ tatoo(nakolkaev ch@) patenk..." Abstract from Selinger"Freni". Hnaravore aidkan hajogh chem tarkmanel kani vor tarkmanutyun@ russerenitser, baiyts imast@ vstahem pahpanadze.. Es hamadzainem amen tegh kan lav ev vat martik, baits haeri mech chka miasnutyan, hamategh gaghapar@, amen@ uni ir arandzin shaher@ vor @ gnahatume bartsre ameninchits... Apsos vor duk aidkan lav haeren kam russeren chgitek vor anglereni pes tchgun pataskhanek... I hope you dont find me a men who "in the name of a god that legitimizes hooliganism". I advise you to write word God with G, vochte g.

Tisht asats grumem vraz u voch harmar jamanak, baits 'kaidz arats ' ko gradzits dear Chachanak chem karogh hakhtel temptation of writing. Im kardzikov amen hokevor,imastun mart uni ira kinon,ira siradz kyanki erk@ u amen ankam erb martu glkhovor tsangutyunner@ ((kusht linel@...)bavararvadze-mojesh opratestovat') na mtadzume ira kinoi masin . grumem sa vorovhetev im kinon arten es shatem erke u tese u ete astvats lini blagosklonii es kiirakaтуtsnem na. Kuzenai asei inchu het hamadzain chem, baits du karas ases vor 'read between lines'. dra hamar hatuk kgrem mi pokr ush. Hokerazat mart unenal2 karoghe aveli ujegh okut ta kan harstutyunner. Es irok chei mtadze dra masin, baits ko greluts heto nkaty vor menk zrutsumenk harazati het jamerov u misht ka khosalu ban, ankam jamerov hnaravore lrel u dael klini mets zruyts...

Ok. Chachanak. Indz hangist chi talis mi harts. Orinak duk vor girknek hamarum lav@, vor andzne dzer hamar lav. Kinonkar naheluts vor kinone dzer hamar hajoghak kino? Inchne dzer gnahatich@. Kan kardzikner vor ete kinon artasume martun uremn lav kinoe.... Baits es hamozvadzem vor da sintementalnost'e vochte irakan gnahatelu michots. Che vor irakanutyun@ aveli bonalniee(trial) kan mer hivandagin fantaziyaner@(bolnoe voobrajenie). Menk geratenumenk tsutsadrakan mer zgatsmunkner@ prel urishnery hayatskin, lav kam vat aritov. Isk voch mi mart chi mtadze, orinak en knikner@, kam tghamartik vor taghman@ anbnakan gorumen, kgorain ete irants tesnogh publikan chkanar?

No chtobi tam ni govorili chitat' 'detektivchiki' klassa dashkova, Marinina u nas u ekonomistov, govoritsa imet' otritsatel'nuyu ekonomicheskuyu pribil ili je ogromnuyu alternativnuyu pribil. T.e. konechno interesno chitat 'THE MOUSETRAP','THE MYSTERIOUS AFFAIR AT STYLES'mojno, daje nujno, no nado chuvstvovat uroven' pisatelya. A visheskazannie poetessi, kak ekonomist, osvedamlu ya vas-oni vsgo lish yavlyalis' popitkoi rasshotat' knijni rinok, sozdav ajotaj.To je Pilevin na dve golovi vishe ikh... nu konechno tchashakin @nker chka, isk antchashaknerin inchkan uzes!!!

Pravilno li bit' ne sentimental'nim, 'zaranee zagotovlenime chuvstvami' na opredelennie situatsii? Pochemu nel'zya prosto bez etogo pafosa jit'. Vseravno nichego ne vechno, daje lubov' na sed'mom nebe... K chemu vse eto? (tema kstaty u Selinjera proslejivaetsa)

Ok. Vidimo lubite prideratsa k voprosam i davat evreiskie otvety!!! Postavlyu bolee psikhologicheski vopros!!! Kakoi iz jenskikh geroin -Ursula -Rebeca -Amaranta .... Ili iz mujskikh -Arkadio(otets vsego i vsya) -Aurelino(polkovnik) -.... Blije vsego k Vam I chto imenno vas prelshaet? Pojaluysa bez aбстраций!!!

Dear Soghomon(pochitatel Teleryana). Pridateli vsegda bili kak rakovaya opukhl' natsii, osobenno takoi sravnitel'no malenkoi kak nasha. Pri vseobshei potrioticheskoi aure daje seichas v armyanskoi politicheskoi arene est' takovie. Naprimer Shavash Kocharyan,eshe tot boz pervoi svejesty. No eta tema skoree razgovor politicheski!!!

Aznavur pomoemu bolee izvesten kak shansone, chem poet. Ya khotel Svesti razgovor k tomu, chto nas ne znayut potomu chto perevodov nashikh malo ili materiala net????????

Na Aseler vor hayeren giti

Paron Baliozyan Gitek es kuzenai vor duk sovoreik sirel martkants!!! Mik bajanek Hay-vat, vorovhetev.....Americatsi lav, vorovhetev.... Ete duk iskagan groghek u grumek sovorakan martkants, ov tsnvume tesnume mangutyun, heto arachi [email protected] u chka nra mech tsangutyun steghdzel zenk mart sbanel, mik bajanek nrants vat u lav ughaki gtek dzer mech en vor sirek bolorin ev vaty ev lavi hamar. Ete duk uzumek asel vor hay petutyun@ vate varve groghnery het, so hayastan@ ev bolor haer@ chen gnahatum irants arjekner@. Gitetsek orinak Russasanum Amena medz groghner@ ihaid ekan Sovety amena Boz jamanak, erb daje Parajanovin nstatsrin, Boris Pasternak@ stipvats hrajarvets Nobelyan mrtsanakits...Iharge nrank chein sirum Bolsheviknerin u komunistnerin, baits hents ed komunistner@ nrants mech Ser@ depy Russastan... ujeghatsrin. Vahan Totoventsin gitek petker vor nran shkegh dghyakner tain parkevadrein????... Voch nran petker ughaki Hayastan@ nra vatov ev lavov. Duk chek tsnvel hayastan, duk chek tesel mangutyun hayastanum, duk dzer srty khorkum chek taktsnum hayastan...Ed amot chy, dzer nmanner@ arten shaten ov hayastani masin menak kartalov e imanum, da mer djbakhtutyunne. Che Iharge kan Martik ov chnayadz vor tsnvumen otarum, hayastani u reborning of Armenia kyank chen apsosa. U vertsrek dzes hamar mi surb orenk KYANKUM KEKHTOT DZERKEROV CHKPNEL FIDAINERY ANUNIN1915-I U BOLORY OV PASHTPANELE, kap chuni chishten eghe te voch da urish hartse. u GITETSY ETE DU HAES DU PATKANUMES ARMYANSKI IMPERIAIN VOR@ IR POKRUTYUN@ ANTESELOV CHVAKHETSAV LINEL TEI VERCH TRUE. Isk ete du uzumes parzapes mi bokr Kaidz hanes nranov vor TESEK HAY GROGH@ BATSAHAYTETS ES KEKHTOT HAYERY EUTYUN@ NRANK CHEN SIRUM IRENTS GROGHNERIN, NRANK ABORIGENNERY PES VAIRENIEN....EV ED MINCHEV ERB, duk shat shut kmoratsvek martkants hishoghutyunits

Es uzumem haskanal, menk batsy Saroyanits Arevmutkum tchanatsvadz mets grogh 20ort dary unenk? Artsek menk karoghenk hbartanal Russneri, Amerikatsinery, Argentinatsinery, Anglyatsinerypes havasar mer verchy serunty groghnerov????? Artsek menk chenk teragnahatum mez u mer hnaravorutyunner@. Artsek menk piti gorank vor menk mekhkenk, vorovhetev 1915 tvakanin....?????? P.S. Ara Biliozyani kardzik@ indz haskanalie, na uzume gre ain inch michev nran grats chi eghel hai graganutyan mech, hashvi charnelov patmakan irakanutyun. Erevi mekm nran neghatsrele vakhtin (Asumen Hitlernel Hitler cher lini ete pokr vakht@ bagi erekhaner@ amenor ch@ tsedzein

Wir, v osnove luboi koristy lejit egoizm.

V raskazakh Selinjera geroi vse yarkie i v chem-to osobennie ludi. No chto-to mne za vsyu moyu nedolguyu istoiyu jizni ne povelos' uvidet' pokhojikh na nikh lyudei. A kak dumaete, oni real'ni?

Da perechital ya tam vse vashi emotions, no dumau tema sebya ne ischerpala. Ya sklonen schitat' samoubiistvo ne slabostyu, a znakom ogromnoi voly, Pobedi nad jivotnim instinktom boyazni smerty!!! Da i krome togo nelzya ideficirovat' tvorchestvo Selinjera, kak suitsidalnoe. Ya, lichno, jizn' i ludei, nas okrujayushikh, bolshe vzlubil posle ego rasskazov!!!

A Kto vam bolshe nravitsa v Sto let Odinochestva? Polkovnik Aurelino buendiya? Arkadio? Amaranta ili Rebeca или же Ursula? .....

Севак, актуальность твоей темы спорная вешь, потому как я понял, ты задался цель показать как хорошо книги влияют на людей, особенно подрастаюшее покаление спюрк армян, однако нужно учесть что: 1. Человеку "нечитаюшему" в голову не придет заити в раздел литература в форуме, они чаше всего в чате посутся или анекдоты читают 2. Любовь к книгам, к литературе появляется от того как тебя воспитали родители и какие ценности в семье почитались

Oh, Chachanak you are crazy, and you are great in your creazy. Today it's a shame to be not same as a people you're arounded. But I offer replace word "crazy" by "uniq in his(her) own". Because we honor such a people as Picasso, Mone, Parajanov for their uniqueness. Vot. Vi sluchaino ne projivaeete v moskve chachanak?

Mne v poslednee vremya na misl' namotalos' vot chto- Otvetsvenie lyudi, takie prilejnie, ispolnitelnie... mojno li eto rastolkovat', kak ikh egoizm, t.e. jelanie chtob pokhvalili ili vo vsyakom sluchai ne obrugali, ili eto prosto cherta kharaktera. Esli zadumatsa vsyakaya deyatelnost' ili bezdeistvie yavlyetsa rezultatom egoizma. Ne potomu li tak dolgo govorilos u Selingera o blagorodstve otreshennogo truda?!

Aisha, vidite li Teddy bil blizok k Bogu i on schital chto chemu bit tomu bit', nu i chto chto on umer? jizn' zemnaya ne bila blya Teddy samotselyu!!! Bez sintementalnosty, kak govorit on. Telo rodilos' sushestvovalo a potom ego ne stalo. Krome togo eti uchenie iz "zemnoi jizni" to i delo ne davali emu pokoya, dai im prava oni razrezali bi ego vdol i poperek dlya svoikh isledovanii i v luchem sluchae, ostavshis' bi on v jivikh konchil bi kak simor. As for my writer explain a situation, when he is a God and Simor is Taddy, so Hi find this "happy end" the best for Simor.... A pro boga eto jizn moya pokazala pravda. Mi bivaem blizki k nemu, a potom mojet bit tak, chto ti otdalyaeshsa ot nego, prichin mnogo, as a rison may be a girl,sin.... Ne podumaete chto ya plokho otnoshus k girl, otnud' eto ne tak. Sami chisti trud , trud sdelanii v samootreshenii, ne za nagradu ili premiyu....

Госпада, тема уже пройдена!!! Благодарю за пояснения строк Исаакяна, однако я уже Karmiru cообшил о своем отношении по поводу этого в privat memo!!! И нет необходимости тепер в течение полугода каждому кому не лень писать- Нет Fadei, Исаакян говорил за свою душу и показивал пример настоящнго потриотизма... Я знаю... Кстати по этому поводу не поленитесь прочитать "Андраник Армянский" W.Saroyan

Karmir chitaya kajdi raz otrivok kotory soprovojdaet vse tvoi pisma, khochu tebe skazat chto patriatizm doljen bit' zarovim yavleniem i znay chto mojno idti za svoi printsipi na vse no govorit o jiznya tisyach kak o jizni moshek ili babochek glupo!!!

Ara Baliozyan, your point of view on armenian diaspora is partly true. It's seems to be not complited Saroyan's approach of this problem. Could you send some of you translations of armenian writers?

Отнюдь Симор не был, фиксом, он просто в отличае от всех не быль столь посредственным, чтобы просто жить чтобы есть. Такое впечатление что вы Симора сравниваете с детьми внезапно разбогатевших в нач.90х льюей, которые свою пустоту скрывают за "галимыми понтами" А кстати я и есть zoe_Gold

Es da chem taktsrel!!! Es inks zarmatsa vor user nam@ pokhveler!!! ed kompyutrain proscheter. Baits duk erevy menak aidpes ankap banerovek hetakrkrvum, kani vor arten kardzes moratsvele arten vor khosumenk FRANTS KAFKAI U MENAK EGHNELU MASIN YA-TER-HAYR,ZOE_GOLD, FADEI....

Aisinkn ? Ete dzhvar che, khntrumem grek inch tpavorutyun unek Wiilyam Saroyany patmutyunnerits(orinak-Im sirt@ lernerum e) Isk es karoghem asem menak, vor na verchy handzharegh Hay groghn e antsyal darva, vory grker@ spyurky haerin ognumen pahpanel haykakan yurahatkutyun@ u ch@ tshnamanal otary handep ev @ntanrapes es vstahem, vor ete yuracanchur mart Erkir molorakum kardan W.Saroyan, anhnar kliny charik@ mer kyankim . Kyankums yes chei imats e vor mar linum e Saroyany chep bary.