crimson Posted April 7, 2004 Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 А мне именно что их блюзовое начало нравится. для меня Aqualung уже слишком приглаженный, причёсанный, не знаю... души меньше чем в ранних что ли. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HOB Posted April 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 Мой самый нелюбимый их альбом иии, Кримзон? Даже заглавная песня не нра? The minstrel in the gallery looked down upon the smiling faces. He met the gazes observed the spaces between the old men's cackle. He brewed a song of love and hatred, oblique suggestions and he waited. He polarized the pumpkin-eaters, static-humming panel-beaters, freshly day-glow'd factory cheaters (salaried and collar-scrubbing.) He titillated men-of-action belly warming, hands still rubbing on the parts they never mention. He pacified the nappy-suffering, infant-bleating, one-line jokers, TV documentary makers (overfed and undertakers.) Sunday paper backgammon players family-scarred and women-haters. Then he called the band down to the stage and he looked at all the friends he'd made. The minstrel in the gallery looked down upon the smiling faces. He met the gazes observed the spaces in between the old men's cackle. He brewed a song of love and hatred, oblique suggestions and he waited. He polarized the pumpkin-eaters, static-humming panel-beaters, The minstrel in the gallery looked down on the rabbit-run. And threw away his looking-glass - saw his face in everyone. He titillated men-of-action belly warming, hands still rubbing on the parts they never mention. (salaried and collar-scrubbing.) He pacified the nappy-suffering, infant-bleating, one-line jokers, TV documentary makers (overfed and undertakers.) Sunday paper backgammon players family-scarred and women-haters. Then he called the band down to the stage and he looked at all the friends he'd made. The minstrel in the gallery looked down on the rabbit-run. And threw away his looking-glass - and saw his face in everyone. The minstrel in the gallery looked down upon the smiling faces. He met the gazes... The minstrel in the gallery Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HOB Posted April 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 А мне именно что их блюзовое начало нравится. для меня Aqualung уже слишком приглаженный, причёсанный, не знаю... души меньше чем в ранних что ли. Лав эли...Это Locomotive breath причесанный? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ablertus Posted April 7, 2004 Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 А мне именно что их блюзовое начало нравится. для меня Aqualung уже слишком приглаженный, причёсанный, не знаю... души меньше чем в ранних что ли. Блюзовых исполнителей очень много, есть и получше Jethro Tull - Clapton, B. B. King. Но мне в Jethro Tull больше очаровывает их европейское, кельтское начало. Связь со средневековой и классической европейской музыкой. Никто в роке не чувствовал эту связь лучше мистера Андерсона. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crimson Posted April 7, 2004 Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 чисто кельтская музыка тоже не придумана ими, и явно есть много людей которые исполняют более кельтскую музыку чем они. причём это. я не говорил что мне нравится блюз пер не... мне нравится та смесь блюза, рока, классики и кельтского начала которая присутствовала в их ранних работах Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HOB Posted April 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 Кримзон я понимаю, что ты имеешь ввиду и что имеет ввиду Альбертус. Только господа, давайте не будем много о блюзе, в противном случае тема может перейти в обсуждение Howlin Wolf-а. По теме, первый альбом Jethro Tull - это безусловно вещь, но лично для меня Jethro Tull является Jethro Tull-ом на том же же Акваланге или Stand Up. А "This was" это всего лишь пробная работа (удачная) , после которой Абраамс ушел. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ablertus Posted April 7, 2004 Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 А как вам андерсоновские тексты? Для меня честно говоря несколько затруднительно их понимать, наверно английский надо подтянуть. У меня они ассоциируются с керролловским Бармаглотом (кстати, моё любимое стихотворение ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HOB Posted April 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 Альбертус Историю связанную с Thick As A Brick и Джералдом Бостоком знаешь? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ablertus Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 Нет, не знаю ни историю, ни этого самомго, как его, Бастока Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crimson Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 Это автор одноимённой поэмы (и соответственно текстов к этому альбому), сам в то время 8-и лет от роду (xe-xe ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ablertus Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 Да, я что то такое слышал. Только я думал, это прикол - поэма уж больно гениальная Д Хотя и непонятная Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crimson Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 прикол и есть... но многие до сих пор верят Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HOB Posted April 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 Да было такое дело, Кримзон прав. Я даже помню читал, что после выпуска был протест со стороны каких-то организаций, мол стихотворение содержит отрицание жизни и Бога. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ablertus Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 (edited) Thick as a Brick "Thick as a Brick" is perhaps Tull's definitive progressive rock album. Born from a desire to really produce a concept album after the rock critics so dubbed the previous year's "Aqualung," the record features a rock first: one continuous song on both sides. The music, and the lyrics, are challenging to the listener and reflect complex influences of folk, jazz, and rock. With "Thick," Anderson and company broaden rock beyond the limitations of the short song format. Understanding "Thick" requires recognition of the popularity of Monthy Python in the early 1970's. Anderson meant for the album to be a send up of rock pretentiousness, critics, and the band itself. The album cover claimed, outrageously enough, that the lyrics had been written by an eight year-old boy, Gerald Bostock, and set to music by the band. Even today, Anderson still gets the occasional person asking about Bostock or commenting about the prodigy's advancing age. While the "Aqualung's" lyrics are fairly straightforward, "Thick's" metaphorical tendencies " are intentionally intricate, obscure, and bewildering as part of the running joke. If there is any true central theme, perhaps it is the sociological experiences of gifted youngsters in the modern world with a touch of paternal relations again. The lyrical incohesiveness, far greater than "Aqualung," leads Craig Thomas, who penned Tull's 25th Anniversary Set booklet, to seriously question whether it is properly deemed a concept album. Rather, he views it more of an adaptation of the "kind of free-jazz...improvisations of the 1960." Indeed, several segments were recorded in just one improvisional take. No discussion of "Thick"" is complete without noting the legendary 12-page newspaper, "The St. Cleve Chronicle" original cover packaging. Written by Ian, Jeffrey Hammond, and John Evan, the paper actually took longer to produce than the music. There are a lot of inside puns, cleverly hidden continuing jokes (such as the experimental non-rabbit), a surprisingly frank review of the album itself, and even a little naughty connect-the-dots children's activity. www.jethro-tull.com Edited April 20, 2004 by Ablertus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HOB Posted April 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 (edited) Эта история меня заинтересовала. Смотри-ка, что я нашел : Who is Gerald Bostock, listed as co-author of Thick As A Brick? There is no real Gerald Bostock. Ian explains, "there was this kind of humorous side to [Thick as a Brick] that made it possible to do this send-up lyric which was deliberately complex and a bit crazy, and to suggest, however unlikely it might have been, that the whole thing had been written by a precocious 11 or 12 year-old or whatever the Gerald Bostock figure was supposed to have been.... which is, I suppose, me trying to cop out from being the author of it myself." http://remus.rutgers.edu/JethroTull/FAQ.html Edited April 20, 2004 by HOB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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