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  1. забыл Qeri поставить в список. Я за него получать буду..... Он попросил потом ему деньги отправить..... так и сказал "Shenyatsi, помоги продать мой ник. Деньги привези. Только тебе доверяю...". Прослезился я и дал согласие. Начальная ставка на Qeri - $125 Итого имеем: Norayr - $100 SAS - $100 Kir - $100 Karmir - $100 Bingool - $100 Celtic - $100 Aks - $100 Qeri - $125 Shenyatsi - 500 dram, tuti aragh, haykakan konyak (iskakan), mi lyav el sigar (AVO)... shat desheviem, инкёнох chka...
  2. ARMENIA THIS WEEK Tuesday, April 19, 2005 In this issue: Armenia: Turkey's behavior on eve of Genocide anniversary "impudent" Mediators call for end to war rhetoric, balanced compromise settlement AAA Fact Sheet: Azerbaijani government rhetoric and policy on NK ARMENIA CRITICIZES TURKEY'S "IMPUDENCE" ON EVE OF GENOCIDE ANNIVERSARY Armenia's Foreign Minister Vartan Oskanian last week strongly criticized the Turkish government's latest efforts against international affirmation of the Armenian Genocide. With the approaching 90th anniversary of the beginning of the Ottoman Turkey's genocidal campaign against Armenians, Turkish leaders have gone on the promised "offensive" on the Armenian "issue," calling for a "new study" of the events of the early 20th century, lobbying other governments against Genocide affirmation, while also accusing Armenians of killing over half a million Turks. Oskanian argued that "Turkey not only impudently tries to re-write its own history but also wants to incline other countries to do it." Armenia's Prime Minister Andranik Margarian, who like Oskanian is a descendant of genocide survivors, stressed that there was no need for a "new study" of genocide. "There is nothing to prove. The Genocide took place... It is unacceptable to discuss this historical fact." Margarian added that what Armenia and Turkey could discuss is establishment of diplomatic relations and lifting of Turkey's blockade, both of which Ankara has refused to do. Armenia's leading expert on Turkey, Professor Ruben Safrastian said that the Turkish government fully realizes the historical truth but was engaged in an "insolent" policy of historical falsification. The International Association of Genocide Scholars sent a letter to the Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan urging him to review the existing independent scholarly record on the Armenian Genocide and end genocide denial. Oskanian further noted that Turkey's refusal to apologize for the deaths of over a million Armenians is a national security threat to Armenia. "As long as this country with huge military potential and open pro-Azeri position in the settlement of the Nagorno Karabakh conflict does not recognize the Armenian Genocide, we cannot trust it and feel comfortable in terms of provision of our security," Oskanian said. He expressed confidence that Turkey's current policy "will turn against Turkish authorities," particularly in the context of Ankara's effort to join the European Union. (Sources: Mediamax 4-13, 18; Regnum.ru 4-18; ANC 4-19) MEDIATORS CALL FOR END TO WAR RHETORIC, "BALANCED COMPROMISE SETTLEMENT" IN NK Envoys from France, Russia and the United States last week urged an end to continued war rhetoric and called for a renewed commitment to the 11-year ceasefire in Nagorno Karabakh. In a joint statement, the mediators also called on all sides to prepare the public for a "balanced negotiated settlement." The statement came shortly before the envoys co-chairing the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) Minsk Group held separate meetings with the Foreign Ministers of Armenia and Azerbaijan in London. There was no direct meeting between the two ministers. The Group is now expected to have a follow-up meeting with the ministers later this month in Frankfurt to try to agree on a meeting between Presidents Robert Kocharian and Ilham Aliyev during the Council of Europe in Warsaw. Spokesman for the Armenian Foreign Ministry Hamlet Gasparian noted this week that since the Azeri government was the only side engaged in war rhetoric (for details see the Assembly fact sheet below), "it is obvious that the statement applies to them." But, he added, the co-chairs needed to take a "tougher stance" with Baku in order to prevent future cease-fire violations. Last month, Nagorno Karabakh's Deputy Foreign Minister Masis Mailian suggested a set of measures that would strengthen the cease-fire, but Azerbaijani officials have shown no interest and appear to favor further escalation. Gasparian stressed that the co-chairs were aware that recent skirmishes were a result of Azeri redeployments closer to the Line of Contact between Armenian and Azeri forces. Gasparian added that "if the intended purpose of this statement is to try to put an end to ceasefire violations, we don't believe that will happen unless the violators are being held accountable." While all senior Armenian leaders, including war veterans President Kocharian and Defense Minister Serge Sargsian have repeatedly acknowledged the need to compromise in order to achieve lasting peace, the Azeri leaders have demanded unilateral Armenian concessions. While Azerbaijan has not yet officially commented on the mediators' statement, the former presidential advisor and Azerbaijan's most veteran diplomat Vafa Gulizade branded the mediators "provocateurs" who wanted Baku to compromise on its claim to Karabakh. A nationwide poll of 1,900 citizens, published last week by the Armenian Center for National and International Studies (ACNIS), confirmed that a vast majority of Armenians (over 84 percent) saw Karabakh's independence or its incorporation within Armenia as the only plausible solution to the conflict. At the same time close to one-half of the respondents said they would agree to withdrawals from the security zone around Karabakh as part of a settlement. Most respondents, however, were not optimistic that settlement could be achieved any time soon. (Sources: Arminfo 3-12; AAA Fact Sheet 3-21; ACNIS 4-12; Mediamax 4-15, 16, 18) A WEEKLY NEWSLETTER PUBLISHED BY THE ARMENIAN ASSEMBLY OF AMERICA 122 C Street, N.W., Suite 350, Washington, D.C. 20001 (202) 393-3434 FAX (202) 638-4904 E-Mail [email protected] WEB http://www.aaainc.org Armenian Assembly of America Research and Information Office FACT SHEET: AZERBAIJANI GOVERNMENT'S WAR RHETORIC Last updated: March 21, 2005 In the years since the outbreak of the Karabakh conflict in the 1980s, Azerbaijani government officials and the mass media have consistently threatened war and fostered anti-Armenian intolerance. Ignoring international criticism, such public statements continue unabated and in recent years have intensified. Egregious examples of this approach follow: * President Ilham Aliyev has repeatedly told his nation that Azerbaijan could launch a new war in Karabakh: Aliyev warned that unless Armenians capitulate "we will all smash the heads of the Armenians." (Turan via BBC Monitoring 10/27/00). "At any moment we must be able to liberate our territories by military means. To achieve this we have everything." Aliyev predicts that Azerbaijan will soon become an economically strong state, while its military "superiority" will increase further. "Under these circumstances we cannot react positively to those calling us to compromise." (Source: Zerkalo 7/23/04) Azerbaijan increased its military spending to more than $245 million in 2005, a 25% increase from 2004 (AFP 11/9/04), while acquiring more tanks, artillery and aircraft (The UN Directory of Conventional Arms). * Aliyev says he is waging a "cold war" against Armenians and the ongoing negotiations were only a way to achieve unilateral Armenian concessions. As part of this "war", Azerbaijan would continue to boost its military spending and tighten the ongoing economic blockade against Armenia and Nagorno Karabakh. Aliyev said that he would not engage in any confidence-building measures and that he had "no desire" to tone down his country's war-mongering and anti-Armenian propaganda. (Azertag 12/20/04) Aliyev has declared that all contacts with Armenians should be limited to meetings between the two countries' Presidents and key ministers, saying that all other contacts are "inappropriate." In September 2004, Aliyev went as far as to force the cancellation of a key NATO peacekeeping exercise, all to exclude contacts with Armenians. (Armenia This Week 9/13/04) * Aliyev and other officials have condemned Azeris engaged in public diplomacy with Armenians, and government-linked groups have attacked Azeri peace activists. (ANS via BBC Monitoring 11/3/01, 4/16/02; 525ci Gazet 5/11/02; Zerkalo via BBC Monitoring 4/30/03; IWPR Caucasus Report 5/1/03) A leading domestic critic of the Azeri war rhetoric, journalist Elmar Huseinov was assassinated in March 2005 in circumstances suggesting government involvement. Huseinov and his magazine were repeatedly and publicly harassed, accused of treason and shut down, most recently for sending a correspondent to Karabakh. (Armenia This Week 3/7/05) * Both Aliyev and his Defense Minister Gen. Safar Abiyev say that occasional violations of the 1994 cease-fire are "natural" since Azerbaijan is still "at war." (Regnum.ru 3/21/05; Sarg via BBC Monitoring 8/14/03) Abiyev makes claims on Armenia's territory: "Armenia must always remember that what Azerbaijan accepted yesterday will not be accepted today and tomorrow. Azerbaijan will not want to have a separated state - meaning Nakhichevan, cut from the mainland Azerbaijan. This issue will be raised tomorrow." (Ekho 5/16/03). Asked if the Azeri army is ready "to go to Yerevan [Armenia's capital]," Abiyev answered: "We can go even farther." (ANS via BBC Monitoring 3/22/02) Abiyev claims that "The Armenian state was created on the occupied Azeri lands." (ANS.az 12/7/01) * The Azerbaijani Defense Ministry spokesman Col. Ramiz Melikov: "In the next 25-30 years there will be no Armenian state in the South Caucasus. This nation has been a nuisance for its neighbors and has no right to live in this region. Present-day Armenia was built on historical Azerbaijani lands. I believe that in 25 to 30 years these territories will once again come under Azerbaijan's jurisdiction." (Zerkalo 8/4/04) Melikov goes on: "When our hope [for the Armenian capitulation] drops below five percent... we will launch a war." He further urged the mass media to be ready for the use of force. (Zerkalo 3/17/05, 525ci Gazet 3/17/05) Following the brutal murder of an Armenian student of NATO English language courses in Hungary, Melikov qualified the confessed murderer Ramil Safarov as a "talented and disciplined officer." Melikov added that, "as an Azeri, I understand and support Safarov's actions." Melikov did not exclude similar attacks on Armenians in the future. (Regnum 2/25/04) * Azerbaijan's Ambassador to the Council of Europe Agshin Mekhtiyev warned of more attacks on individual Armenians, adding that he "would not advise Armenians to sleep easy in their beds." (Zerkalo 2/24/04) Parliament member and former Heydar Aliyev bodyguard Siyavush Novruzov told Terry Davis, envoy of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe, that "similar incidents" could occur in PACE as well, unless the Karabakh conflict is settled in Baku's favor. (Ekho 2/27/04) Azerbaijan's Human Rights Ombudsman Elmira Suleimanova said that Safarov should serve as "an example for Azerbaijani youth." (Zerkalo 2/28/04) * The Azerbaijani Ministry of National Security (MNS) has publicly and, according to media reports, clandestinely sponsored rhetoric and activities directed against Karabakh peace efforts. In 2004, this successor to the Soviet-era KGB held a public competition for the "best" films and books targeting Armenians, with Minister Namik Abbasov giving financial awards of up to $2,000 to the winners. (Azertag.com 3/26/04) * Heydar Aliyev's National Security Advisor Vafa Gulizade demanded that "Armenians should be driven out of Azerbaijan forever." Unless Azerbaijan fights and drives all Armenians out, Gulizade believes that "Armenians would [eventually] buy up real estate in Baku... They will try to take Azerbaijan into their hands in this way." (Azadlyq via BBC Monitoring 10/10/01) "The entire Armenian population of Nagornyy Karabakh should be moved from there...This problem will not be resolved as long as Armenians are in Nagornyy Karabakh." (Yeni Azerbaycan via BBC Monitoring 11/14/01) "If they want autonomy on our land, let us have autonomy in Zangazur and Goyca [southern and eastern Armenia] which will enable Azerbaijan to reach Turkey by land." (ANS via BBC Monitoring 4/6/02) * The Azerbaijani Parliament member from ruling Yeni Azerbaycan Party Asia Manafova: "Our people must repay the debt it owes to [the late President] Heydar Aliyev and free Karabakh from Armenian occupiers. To achieve this goal we are ready to... undertake acts of suicide bombing." Manafova called on other Parliament members to also become suicide bombers. (Regnum.ru 12/15/03) The pro-government Azerbaijan News Service (ANS) has been the most active Azeri TV channel opposing any contacts with Armenians and arguing for war, suggesting, among other things, to recruit suicide bombers from among thousands of orphaned and homeless children in Azerbaijan. (ANS via BBC Monitoring 10/13/02). * As part of the anti-Armenian campaign, Rovshan Mustafayev of the Azeri government-controlled National Academy of Sciences argues that all ethnic Armenians should be treated "not as a nation, but as an organization," which is aggressive and dangerous, yet weak. (525ci Gazet 4/1/03). In November 2004, Azeri officials confirmed that it was their policy not to allow ethnic Armenians, no matter their citizenship or political background, into Azerbaijan, since "these people's security could not be guaranteed' and since all Armenians were seen as posing security risks. The statement came after Baku airport officials barred the entrance for a Bulgarian sports journalist of Armenian origin, who arrived to cover the Bulgaria-Azerbaijan soccer match. (Azad Azerbaycan TV via BBC Monitoring 11/18/04). * At its core, the Azeri disinformation campaign includes falsification of the nature and history of the Karabakh conflict. The campaign also spreads into areas of global concern, such as baseless accusations of support for Islamic terrorism, weapons proliferation and drug trafficking, and into more "exotic" claims that Armenians are behind everything from crop failures to unexplained natural phenomena. Azeri officials' claims that Armenia is a weak and a 'dying' country are contradicted by concurrent claims that the world Armenian 'cabal' is behind all international criticism of Azeri corruption and human rights abuses. (Armenia This Week 12/20/04) As one of the leading mediators in the Karabakh peace process and Co-Chair of the OSCE Minsk Group, as well as a nation with deep bilateral ties with both Armenia and Azerbaijan, the United States needs to be much more active in securing an end to such irresponsible and bellicose high-level Azerbaijani statements. Clearly these officials envision another military offensive against NKR and Armenia, ethnic cleansing and in the case of Col. Melikov, Armenia's demise via genocide against its population. Public silence in the face of such threats emboldens the would-be aggressors, undermines the peace process and delays indefinitely US objectives of regional peace and security.
  3. ба.... невероятни пеня та..... а если серьёзно, я этого е занал. апрес....
  4. начальные ставки: Norayr - $100 SAS - $100 Kir - $100 Karmir - $100 Bingool - $100 Celtic - $100 Aks - $100 можете добавлять в список всех желающих...
  5. Уважаемые дамы и господа. На нашем сайте, старики форума Hayastan.com решили провести аукцион на следующие ники: Norayr SAS Kir Karmir Bingool Celtic Aks Shenyatsi (натурой тоже можно, мальчикам не приставать) У Вирабова идёт отдельный аукцион, но если думаете хорошая идея и Вирабова присоединить к нашему списку, то голосуйте..... вернее делайте ставки и на него....
  6. Уважаемые дамы и господа. На нашем сайте, старики форума Hayastan.com решили провести аукцион на следующие ники: Norayr SAS Kir Karmir Bingool Celtic Aks Shenyatsi (натурой тоже можно, мальчикам не приставать) У Вирабова идёт отдельный аукцион, но если думаете хорошая идея и Вирабова присоединить к нашему списку, то голосуйте..... вернее делайте ставки и на него....
  7. voter jan, ты когда нибудь puzzle (по руски даже не знаю как это будет) собирал? у тебя наверное получится что-то похожее на скворечник который собрал крокодил Гена с Чебурашкой. Viraboff, все страшины Hayastan.com собираются только в твоей теме пытаясь или помочь продать твой ник, или породоваться твоему решению остаться на форуме.... Где пропал ай март? Ара де бола ли ....... Асумен Горисум тюня екал, дюзин асум? Norayr, мудрейший из мудрейших, говоришь водкой Viraboff отравился? Это от того, что не привык организм к крепкой и чистой водке, сделанной из горных пород кизила в районе Гориса... SAS, я знаю, прочитав диалект, у тебя мурашки по коже забегают.... Потерпи. Давай не сориться Kir, ты только появляешься когда зеленью пахнет? $15,000.... какая твоя доля в этом, интересно. Ты сюда как на работу приходишь и только в этой теме пишешь... А может устроим аукцион на всём форуме и посмотрим за чей ник больше дадут? сейчас открою тему, там посмотрим. Тогда тебя наверное будем почаще видеть....
  8. Я часто встречал окончание фамилий на "янц" в Грузии. Чем это об'ясняется?
  9. Перевод - "Ай дангла, задницей об пол не бей", наверное было сказано ребёнку (когда они кричат и в знак протеста садятся/падают на пол задницей и орут...) А вот пару из моей коллекции "ta heivanchi, ta heivani nahaganna", или "ес гидяцалум тя ту ти пенери ляв чись гюдум, аказывается, сапсем пень чис гюдум", или ещё "эээ бала, мини гюдумес, тас@ гюдумчес"..... а это из серии ненавистливых "ка э (при этом вытягивается рука с открытой ладонью), иресит кыркатем ку", "анчорни кылёхит тахем", а это одно и моих любимых подколок, когда случается что-то необычное в поведение человека "эт инча пытахал кез? цертис керал эсор?".... много смешных вещей у Арцахцев есть. Вспомню ещё напишу.... Я бы с удовольствием почитал бы пословицы, притчи, тосты......
  10. он тебя точно в очередь поставит после такого признания....
  11. Pri chem tut perepis', Rouna jan. Serj Sarkisyana pochitai, Oskanyana.... Ne nravitsya mne vse eto... Opyat' zhe moe mnenie tol'ko. Astvac ta, chtobi ya oshibalsya....
  12. Pochitaite novosti za poslednyy nedely.... Voinoi zapaxlo v vozduxe...
  13. Азеpбайджанские власти используют заключенного как киллеpа в политических убийствах? В Азеpбайджане pазгоpается скандал вокpуг анонимного письма, pасспpостpаненного местными СМИ, автором которого, как предполагается, является офицер Баиловского изолятора. По утверждению автора письма, убийцей известного оппозиционного жуpналиста, главpеда жуpнала "Монитоp" Эльмара Гусейнова, убитого 2 маpта на поpоге своего дома, является Даянат Керимов - человек, осужденный на пожизненное заключение за убийство вице-спикера паpламента Афияддина Джалилова и начальники Особого управления пpезидентского аппаpата Шамси Рагимова (последние были убиты в 1994 году). В письме утверждается, что Даянат Керимов используется властями для осуществления заказных политических убийств. Якобы каждый раз накануне теpакта его перевозили из крытой Гобустанской тюрьмы в Баиловский изолятор. В канун убийств его увозили в неизвестном направлении и возвращали обратно поздно вечером. По утверждению автора письма, именно таким путем Даянат Керимов убил в 2002 году высокопоставленного pаботника пpокуpатуpы Ровшана Алиева и в 2004 году вице-пpезидента АФФА (Ассоциация футбольных федеpаций Азеpбайджана) Фатуллу Гусейнова, более известного как "чеpный полковник" еще в годы Каpабахской войны. Он же и убил Эльмаpа Гусейнова. -------------------------------------------------- Tema dlya razmishleniya
  14. Ya podumal temu ubrali voobshe i nikto vstrechatsya ne xochet Ya znay chto eto doleko, no pover'te s nashim "armyanskim erishem" mi uzhe opozdivaem
  15. Konchaite bazar rebyata.... Ni odin narod nel'zya pod odnu grebenku gresti. Von v Turcii 25% lydei govoryat chto Armeniya omivaetsya tremya moryami, mi iudei i eshe kakaya to chush'..... To chto oni znayt o moryax raduet, no ix znaniya nemnogo zamorozheni. Poetomu, schitay luchshe budet esli mi pokazhem ne svoy nenavist', tem bolee v virtual'noi zhizni..... Te kto budut otnositsya k nam s neuvazheniem, budut zabaneni srazu (Takie kak Zakatalinec, kotori uporono pishet imya Prezidenta Armenii s malen'koi bukvi).... A tak esli chelovek prishel i pokazal uvazhenie, davaite xotya bi otvetit' tem zhe.... ustal uzhe ob etom govorit'.... udachi vsem v obshenii.....
  16. ребята, в следующий раз пишите название темы немного поразборчивее. Я уже собрался в Москву на бесплатный *инет...
  17. Баревнер, Viraboff. Ты мне один умный вещь скажи, только так, чтобы я не обижался. Сколько % пойдут в помощь людям на освобождённых териториях? И почему 1 Мая? Подарки трудовому народу будем покупать? И вообще, знаю что со временем у тебя не густо, и так же знаю, что оно всё равно бывает. Так где же пропал.? Разве не видишь, иногда кушать не можем без тебя....
  18. Где вы меняете аватары? А можно я оставлю свой, т.к. не планирую быть на сайте в этот день? Я думаю и уверен, что как Артур сделал в прошлом году, было отличной идеей! В такой день, все должны быть в Цицанакаберте возлагать цветы, в церквях или на демонстрациях.
  19. они продвинулись на 80 метров (точно не помню в каком районе, но если не ошибаюсь, то это должно быть или в Агдамско или Гаранбойском районе)
  20. gde ti uvidel PACAN? Esli ti tak xochesh, to mi mozhem pereiti na polnoe molchanie. Tvoe badanie ya ne poimu. Tebe uzhe ne raz ob'yasnili vsy situaciy, a ti vse ne uspokoishsya. Tevan poluchil po zaslugam. Vse! Basta!
  21. Вечная память нашим Героям, кто предотвратили очередной Геноцид и отстояли свои земли!
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