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Adabas, vi je ne naivni: Pochemu vi ojidate chto MID budet priznavatsia? A svyazivanie vami printsipilanosti pokazannoi ARF s kak vi viskazilis "приобрести оппозиционный имидж накануне выборов мэра г.Еревана" a takje vashe viskazivaniya vrode "bankrotsva", prosto pokazivayut vashu nepriyazn po otnosheniyu k ARF kotoraya ya dumayu uje davno u vas sidela vnutri i iskala podxodiashego sluchaya chtobi viti naruju i tak skazat - viplyunutsia. Vrodi intelligentnii chelovek, vam eto ne podxodit.

vopervix, ti mne ne govori chto mne delat, exav aperik? a teper po teme: Znachit vklad v osnovanie pervoi Armyanskoi respubliki v 1918 godu, i fakticheski polnoe rukovodstvo eyu na protiajenii vsego eyo suschestetvovaniya za schiot kotoroi (etoi pervoi Armyanskoi respubliki): 1. Spaslis ot okonchatelnoi rezni utselevshie posle genotsida zapadnie armyane; 2. Ne bili unichtojeni ot nastupayushei turetskoi armii vostochnie armyane, i nakonets; 3. Obrazovalas sovetskaya Armenia v kotoroi ti imel chest roditsia – znachit eto vsio u tebia nazivaetsia "putatsa pod nogami"??? Ti vidno ne ochen xorosho znayesh istoriyu Armenii.

a ti dumayesh vsio nishtiak? Tipa kak odin znakomi skazal: "vot otkroyut granitsu budem yezdit tuda-syuda tovari pokupat-prodavat, dengi delat".

Chio za virajeniya "isterika", "oxreneli"? Ti za svoi slova otvetit smojesh? ARF doljna nemedlenno viiti iz pravitelstvenoi koalitsii i prilojit absolyutno vse svoi sili chtobi etot "road map" NIKOGDA ne voplotilsia bi v jizn!

Lav asetsir, adabas shat lav asetsir!!! Aisents "nrbutiunerna" vor CC kam chi haskanum, kamel shatel lav haskanuma baits "ta ira ski petknal chi".

nu naschiot krdig ne znayu, navriadli smogut nashi Iranskie druzya v odinochku jidov zamochit. NO fakt to chto Iran dostavliayet jidam nastolko bolshuyu golovnuyu bol chto oni uje godami Pentagon na tsipochkax derjat, mol gotovtes soldatiki skoro postupit prikaz "fas".

Ararat3, poka vsemirnie jidi (VJ) OK ne dadut amerikantsi priznavat ne budut, xot tresni! A vot VJ etot OK ne dadut do tex por poka im nujni turki tak kak slabaya turtsiya = oslablenii izrael. VJ nam dali poniat: Armyane, otkajites ot teritorialnix pretenzi k turtsii i togda nash chudo-negr proiznesiot eto magicheskoe slovo. Daje kartu dlia nas nachertili i v ruki dali, ostayotsia Azatichu eto fuflo narodu "prodat" i parlament ubedit chtobi zaverili i kak tolko vsio budet nishtiak (naprimer k 24 Aprelya 2010) vot togda i amerika priznayet. Nashu obshinu v Amerike (kstati chastyu kotoroi yavliayus i ya sam) kidayut kajdie 4 goda, i ne tolko moralno no i materialno. Poslednee (t.e materialnoe, t.e bablo, a po kulturnomu "political donations") kak raz i yavliayetsia prichinoi pochemu k nam kajdie 4 goda eti zmei polzayut i sladkie pesenki poyut. Potomuchto i mi i one prekrasno znayem chto poka VJ ne dadut dobro priznaniya ne budet, no babki vsioravno nado platit chtobi v igre derjatsia, tak sazat stolik svoi ne poteriat drougim kakim to grupirovkam. Vot tak vot, a ti tut nam "mi im palets pokajem" :lol:

Spasibo, za Vash sovet

ara laveli, Ararat takie naivnie veshi govorish ai axper. Lyuboi prezident ameriki eto "talking cardboard" i nichego bolshe, ix (etix ulibayushixsia kartonov) sozdayut i imi upravliayut gruppa ublyudkov sredi kotorix yest naprimer Rothschildi, odni iz tvoix "lyubimix" jidov. Obamu lichno rekrutoval Zbignev Brejinski (tolko ne govori chto pro etu gadyuku ti ne slishal) aj let 20 tomu nazad. Koroche, budut nashi armyane v USA golosovat ili net ot etogo absolyutno nichego ne pomeniayetsia.

Isskustvo eto vashe orujie? K sojaleniyu uvajaemi araqel mi imeyem delo s turkami kotorie yavliayutsia samim nichtojnim, deshiovim i ubogim "narodom" na zemle, kotorie nikogda za vsyu svoyu istoriyu nichego tvorcheskogo ne sozdali, oni tak daleki ot isskustva kak svinya ot turnika. Oni ponimayut tolko odin yazik - ZENQ - i tolko na etom yazike mi snimi i doljni govorit. Proshu dashnakov v kovichki ne stavit. Oni kakimi bili takimi i ostalis. Eto samaya silnaya armyanskaya organizatsia v mire kotoruyu ya znayu ochen xorosho. Poznakomtes s parniami i devushkami iz "Nikol Abgalian" studencheskogo soyuza ARF, tam yest vse yev gyuxatsu zavak, yev banvori axchik, yev mtavorakani vorti yev ailn, no ix vsex obyediniayet odno: lyubov k rodine i k svoemu narodu i nezabvenaya volya borotsia za eyo blagopoluchie pod znamenem ARF. Yesli vi odnogo dvux ne ochen kulturnix videli eto yeshio nichego ne znachit. V kajdom sele kak govoritsia...

Samo jan, veroyatnee vsego ti ne oshibayeshsia po etomu povodu, no yesli u Serja deistvitelno bolela bi dusha to on bi turkam skazal chto "ya ne upolnomochen ot vsego Armyanskogo naroda obsujdat temu Genotsida". Yesli bi turki skazali "nu togda mi voobshe ne budem govorit" to Serj mog bi razvernutsia i uiti. Chto ne mog? Kak projili s zakritoi granitsei 18 let tak yeshio 18 projili bi, kak Artsakh imel status quo tak i prodoljal bi imet. Koroche, v ludshem sluchae na Serja naexali i on sglotnul, v xudshem on sam reshil svoyo imya jirno vpisat v istoriyu. Po lyubomu narod (t.e nas)kidayut!

Obyazatelno doljna bit vsearmyanskaya volya potomuchto Serj prezident tolko Respubliki Armenia a ne vsego ARMYANSKOGO NARODA. On ne imeyet nikakogo prava govorit ot imeni 10+ millionov Armyan. Yesli priznayut Karski dogovor to vsio, Zapadnaya Armenia pishi propalo!

Kakie u vas metodi? Sprashivayu potomuchto mojet bit oni u vas namnogo ludshe chem u dashnakov i ya toje prisoyedenyus k etim metodam. Ne zabivaite to chto eto imenno blagodarya metodam Dashnakov i ASALA chto v 80-ix godax Evrosoyuz (a dalshe posle etogo 20 s lishnim stran i organizatsi v mire) priznali Armyanski Genotsid.

Samvel, s chego ti vzial chto on poterial rodnix i blizkix v 15 ili 18 godu? Naskolko ya znayu u nego nikakix semeinix sviazei s Zapadnoi Armeniei net.

v moei teme http://forum.hayastan.com/index.php?showtopic=39960 chut li ne rugali menia, namekali na provokatorstvo, a teper sjigaete portret CC-a i fakticheski razdeliaete moi opasaneiya! A panikovat nikomu ne nado, nado vsem narodom (so vsemi diasporami vmeste) vstat i protestovat.

Pod "ya sdelayu toje samoe" ya imeyu v vidu ya vstanu s lyubim kto protiv Serja NO ne s LTP, eto polnostyu isklyuchaetsia, LTP voobshe musor kotorii nado bilo davnim davno vikinut v svalku k chiortovoi materi. Ne doveriaete yemu i ego bande, Меркурий. Kak ya uje skazal v drougom postu - na dannii moment odna lish ARF protestuyet, poetomu ya polnostyu podderjivayu Dashnakov.

"Armenian protesters condemn Turkish thaw" Source (material zdes): http://in.reuters.com/article/oilRpt/idINROB36025220090423 Ketsen Dashnaknere! Erevuma menak iranq hamardzakutiun unen anartarutian yev hnaravor davachanutian dem xosalu, huisovem nayev paiqarelu, yethe aidpisi qail yerbevitse texi unena.

Ya sdelayu toje samoe!

Yethe im nahatak azgakaneri hishataki orits yerku or araj im petutiune vertsni u aispes ban ani (chanachi drants "sahmane" u hrajarvi im tohmakan hoxerits) uremn yes andzamp voxpaluyem.

Dai Bog chtobi ya so svoimi lichnimi rassujdeniyami bil bi sovershenno ne prav!!! Napisal ya etot post v otchayanii, i s bolshoi bolyu v serdtse potomuchto nash narod ne odin raz uje obmanivali, pretsedentov v istorrii ochen mnogo: xotya bi tot je Aleksadropolski dogovor ot 1920 goda po kotoromu pervaya respublika Armenia otkazalas ot Sevrskogo dogovora i tem samim ot Wilsonian Armenia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilsonian_Armenia

Podpisanie dogovora mejdu Armeniei i turtsiey oznachayet: 1. Priznanie Respublikoi Armenia pozornogo Karskogo dogovora ot 1921 goda po kotoroi Armenia poteriala vse osvobojdionnie ranee zemli (Karskuyu oblast, Ardahan, Ani, goru Ararat itd.) 2. Respublika Armeniya ne budet predyavliat nikakix territorialnix pretenzii k turtsii daje yesli ta v budushem priznayet Genocide. A chto v zamen? A v zamen mi poluchayem ustanovlenie diplomaticheskix otnosheni (otrkrituyu granitsu, ojivlionnuyu torgovlyu, postoyani turetski flag v serdtse Armenii, t.e. turetskoye posoltsvo v Yerevane, itd. itp gavno!), a takje radikalno izmenionnoye otnoshenie turtsii po voprosu Artsaxa, to yest: turki moyut ruki i bolshe ne lezut v etot vopros ostavliaya ego reshat nam i zirpichanu. Vot tak vot. Aispesa linum vor linuma. De gnatseq Hayer u voxpatseq vortev mez boloris davachanetsin!

I have a pragmatic, and most importantly an Armenian worldview, which is based on facts, such as: Russia and Iran are our strategic partners in the region, in which the USA would never acquire any significant status and influence due to the specific nature of the geo-politics in our neighborhood. Russia and Iran are also our biggest trading partners, something the USA would also never become, and not just to us but to anyone in our region since it has nothing valuable to offer. And last but not least, Russia is our biggest arms supplier, and since our Army is the protector of our country this fact should be very important to any patriotic Armenian, someone you profess to be. So, when the USA will be governed by real Americans instead of international criminals from such organizations as Trilateral Commission and Committee on Foreign Relations etc. etc, then and only then should we, Armenians, consider the USA a free country, and a country worth dealing with. Until such time the USA remains a hijacked entity almost completely useless to the Republic of Armenia. If you wanted to be Armenian you should have come to Armenia instead of going to Moscow and then to US. Thousands of Baku Armenians did exactly that and ensured that not only they will stay Hay, but most importantly that their children will grow up Hay. If you believe your children will grow up as Armenians in the US, especially in the Mid West, then you are either kidding yourself or you just don't know America and its corrupt educational system, its twisted values and its brainwashed people (the vast majority) well enough.

Et du indz viravoretsir vor asatsirs "Вот ты например ЛЮТЫЙ ненависник своей Армении.." isk yes qez uxxaki patasxanetsi. Mi xoskov - qez mexadri, Zinvor ail vochte indz. Baits du der sharonakum es: "…и остаётся только уточнить в каком именно АКОПЕ ты будешь,если будешь!" Asem qez: Ya budu, I budu ya v samom peredovom okope, i budem mi iz etogo okopa i za bakinskix, i za sumgaitskix, i za kirovabadskix i voobshe za vsex nashix armyan mstit …menq morteluyem turqin vochxari pes! Tak chto ti za menya ne perijivai. …Isk qo txerqe, qo zavaknere kgan okop?

Ne v obidu skazano no chtob posmotret etot rolik snachala nado znat angliiski, Zinvor, which you don’t really know as far as I understood from your previous posts. Baits du el itarberutiun simpletoni hayeren haskanumes che? De lav lsi inchem asum: Nax yev araj txamardkutiun unetsi u asa vor ais qo bolor hardzakumnere u xosalu tone indz het irakanum kapvatsa nra het vor qo minimum mi mase jhuda isk yes jhudnerinem haihoyum. Etents chi? ...Du uxxaki nikoves “Zinvor”, isk yes im Hayots Yerkrin tsarayats iskakan Zinvorem. Isk yerb vor du amerikai despanatane ntsats latsumeir vor iranq qez viza tan, yes irants qrchot amerikyan passport arten 15 taruts avel unei, u hima el unem. Yes tqats unem rusastatni vra, baits yes krknaki dzevov tqats unem amerikai u yevropai vra. Batsatrem qez amena parz u hasarak dzevov: menq rusneri het unenq endanur npatakner mer shrjanum yev mer haraberutiunere nrants het balastain chen qani vor menq nrants avelienq petk qantste iranq mez. …Hayastane mer (hayastantsineri) hayreniqna u menq enk nra nerkan u apagan, menak mer sirtna vor iskakanits tsavuma mer yerkri hamar, isk du nsti qo aidaxoyum u tserutsiunet vaili.

Simple, posle tvoego pozornogo posta #164 ya s toboi bolshe obshatsia ne xotel. …Are you sure that you are 100 per cent Armenian? Where were you born and then grew up before asking for asylum in the States? I mean, how the hell a supposedly patriotic Armenian could spew such poison about other Armenians? …a naschiot pravdi v Amerike tak u tebia prosto duxa ne xvatayet smotret etoi pravde v glaza, simple, ti kak medved na zimnei spyachke, lejish sebe komfortabelno v amerike i sosiosh lapku. Tebe prosto kidayut podachki i ti boishsia kusat ruku kotoraya tebya podkarmlivaet, vot i vsio! Nu okey, ne kusai, leji v tvoyei okupirovannoi sionistami Amerike i sosi tam skolko xochesh, I couldn't care less. No tolko mne (cheloveku realno svyazanamu s Armeniei, grajdaninu Armenii, ofitseru zapasa Armyanskoi Armii jivushemu v Armenii) ne nado mozgi pudrit o tom kakoi ti patriot! Skolko bi ti i tebe podobnie tut na forumax ne krichali bi s penkoi vo rtu kakie vi xoroshie, kakie vi patrioti itd itp – polzi ot vas dlya Armenii nol/zero/nil. Tolko grajdane Armenii jivushee v Armenii yavlyayutsia istinnimi patriotami svoey Rodini! Tolko ot nix yest deistvitelnaya polza netolko dlya Armenii no i vsemu Armyanskomu narodu. Zapomni eti istini! A ti i tebe podobnie milnie puzirki rano ili pozdno lopnut i rastvoryatsia v mutnix vodax ameriki, yevropi i rossii.