Phrygian

Շատ սիրուն ֆոտոյա.

Es lriv haskanum em inch em asum, et du gaghapar chunes ko asacneri hetevankner@. Mard petka gone mi kich inknasirutyun unena. Es voch kovkaztsi em voch el bolor myus ko asac himarutyunner@. Bayc de asum en "To each their own".

Для меня тоже, Греки этo как нашие!

HELLAS OAMDARA!!!!!!!!! http://edition.cnn.com/2004/SPORT/football...eece/index.html

Shnorhakalutyun.

EU Includes Caucasus in ‘Wider Europe’ Civil Georgia, Tbilisi / 2004-06-15 14:18:42 On June 14, the European Union included Georgia, along with Armenia and Azerbaijan, in its Wider Europe Neighborhood Initiative. “This is one more step towards the European Union,” Foreign Minister Salome Zourabichvili told Civil Georgia on June 15. “Now, we should develop a plan of action in order to further implement these things in order to become a candidate member of the European Union,” added the Foreign Minister. Within the framework of the EU Neighborhood Initiative, a number of projects will be created to help Georgia implement reforms and adopt the common rules, standards and policies that make up the body of EU law. The European Security Strategy, adopted by the European Council in December 2003, identifies the South Caucasus as one of the regions in which the EU should take a "stronger and more active interest".

Meghk es

Simon, rodstvenniki?

Liovin hamadzayn em dzer het paron Xes.

Haykakan anun unenal@ ev Hayeren imanal@ chi nshanakum vor du Hay es. Karogh a ko nakhniner@ Hay en eghel bayc du Hay ches erb vor urish, himnakanum tshnamakan otar azgi hetakrkrutyunner@ pashtpanum es i dem Haykakanneri. Du Vratsi es, bari eghi aydkan@ tghamardu pes @nduni. Kristonya en togh linen, inch kap uni irenc kron@? Baci kronic u lezvic es iranc ev adrbejancineri mej tarberutyun chem tesnum i nkatmamb Hayeri. Vratsineri metsmasnutyun@ tas angam aveli agressiv ev haka-Haykakakan en ays forum-um kan mek mek tprtogh adrbejanciner@.

Et duk hl@ xabar chek te axparner@ Hayastancinerin incher en asum Manavand Bourdjhamoudtsik (Beirut) kam Polsahayer@. Halepcik (Hayy al Arman) ou Egiptahayer@ hl@ vochinch..

Hahaha. Poor Caucus scum finally flipped. A naschet zhidov, we ate them all :lol: Kartvel you primitive Caucus scum, understand that besides Armenians in the CIS the majority of Armenians don't care about you, have never heard about you hence don't give a rats ass about your filthy sheep herding kind. The fact that Armenian bishops converted you to Christianity along with Nune doesn't mean that you are any less tribal and primitive than your brethren the Chechens or other Caucus scum. Any piece of civilization you have was given to you by Armenians first and foremost, our cousins Greeks and later Russians. In your 1000 year history you haven't accomplished anything! What have you given to the world besides your great national hero and leader Stalin that is Ungrateful petty people. Most Armenians have a feeling of apathy towards you, well I just pity you. With all that Armenians have given to you primitive Caucus people, we have received nothing in return. Well that's me from the West, but what about CIS Armenians? Here's what they think. Not as harsh as I am but hey they must still have Soviet melancholies: Дело в том, что изначально в трудах грузинских историков вовсе не наблюдается подобного феномена; они писали все, как есть, и даже если преукрашали или присваивали что-то, то в меру. Со временем - и особенно в новое время - шовинизм и крикливый национализм явно начал зашкаливать среди грузин, особенно политиков и всяких политиканов. То карты порисуют, где весь север исторической Армении безаппеляционно объявлен "исторической грузинской территорией", то свою святую Нино (армянская Нуне) никак не признают пришедшей к ним из Армении, то дудук, мацун, xachapuri и прочие аттрибуты припишут своему национальному "гению"... Об отношении центрального грузинского руководства к Джавахку и его армянскому населению даже говорить не хочется - это целая тема. Просто Грузия держит тамошних армян в таких унизительных условиях, что я уверен, не будь сдерживающего влияния Армении, армяне Джавахка давно бы восстали против несостоявшегося грузинского государства. По моим наблюдениям, чем больше Грузия стелится тряпкой под Турцио-Азербайджан, тем больше антиармянской истерики среди грузинских лидеров. Только в течение последного года было два громких скандала, связанных с тем, что очередной грузинский тупоум-политик делал шовинистические антиармянские заявления. Замечу, что в Армении никаких антигрузинских истерик не наблюдается. А вспомните прошлогодний рейд чеченских и грузинских террористов в Абхазию, при явном пособничестве Грузинского правительства, в результате которого грузино-чеченцами были убиты жители армянского села в Абхазии. У руководства Грузии даже ума не хватило отправить общее письмо с соболезнованиями. ...Таких "братьев" я в гробу видал... Но ситуация резко изменилась в новое время, где-то с середины 19 века. В настоящее время грузины ведут себя с армянам как противники, иногда даже как явные враги. С армянской стороны ничего подобного нет. Мне искренне жаль, что за два последних века грузины с бездумной легкостью свели на нет наше историческое братство.

On eshe zayavil chto evo mat evrejka

Bros mnum er menak Franseren greyir tabarnak! Regarding the stress, all I can say is welcome to the club.

"For example, on a visit to Israel a few years ago, Zhvania, who at the time was speaker of Georgia’s Parliament, noted that his mother was Jewish." "This is quite customary here that someone who reached a high-ranked post would conceal their Jewish roots," Krikheli said http://www.jta.org/page_view_story.asp?str...intcategoryid=5 "My conversation with the president of Azerbaijan has again shown that Ilkham Aliyev is a most close and loyal ally and friend of Georgia." Zurab Zhvaniya http://www.rosbaltnews.com/2003/12/30/65212.html

Armjani nikogda ne bili monofizitami! http://forum.hayastan.com/index.php?showtopic=7942

Severe theological disputes regarding the nature of Christ, ecclesiastical administration and church rituals often flared into open warfare between Byzantine Armenian, Persarmenian as well as the various Armenian kingdoms after Avarayr. These disputes eventually weakened the Eastern front and the Sejuks easily advanced. This invasion of barbarians would change the course of history and usher in centuries old dark ages for the entire region. So what led to this? As you know during the time of the Council of Chalcedon Eastern Armenians were fighting against a Sassanid invasion to convert Armenians back to Zoroastrianism before Eastern parts of Armenia turn pro-Byzantine just like the Western Armenians (geographically speaking). Because of this war Armenians missed the Council of Chalcedon and for that reason the Armenian Church is now wrongfully labelled "monophysite". The non-Byzantine Armenian bishops did not bother to accept the Council of Chalcedon since they missed, not because they considered it Nestorian but because that would give a lot of power. In her teachings the Armenian Orthodox Apostolic Church (that is the full name) is NOT monophysite and never has been. That is a very common misunderstanding and unfortunately it is still in circulation not only among lay people but also among clergy. The formula adopted by the Armenian Church is the one of Cyril of Alexandria. Note that the Council of Chalcedon pronounced clearly that Cyril is most orthodox. The Armenian Church adhered to the view that Jesus Christ is ONE Person and has, in the concrete reality, ONE nature in which the DIVINE nature and the HUMAN nature are UNITED or made ONE. St. Nersess the Graceful – 1173 further elaborated on the issue saying that there is not much difference between “two natures, divine and human, united without confusion, without change, without division, without separation” and “one nature, divine and human”. Both parties agreed that Jesus Christ is One Person and that He is God and Man. More over, the Armenian church vehemently condemned Arians (not to be confused with Aryans ),Nestorians, Apollinarianism and other –isms that were “fashionable” at that time. Even the Armenian sectarian Paulicians and their offshoots Tornikians were persecuted by both Chalcedonian Armenians of the West and non-Chalcedonian Armenians of the East. The only issue of controversy with the Eastern Orthodox was the unleavened bread and red wine, not mixed with water. They accused us of following the Jewish ways, but after all although not a Jew, Jesus himself was raised in a Jewish environment, and this was the way he did it. Interestingly, the Armenian church had never had problems with other churches with regard to Holly Trinity. In conclusion, the rejection of Chalcedon was not a theological issue. First of all, Christianity is monotheistic. We believe in One God…. (see the Nicean creed). Secondly, I think Greco-Romans were inclined to think and perceive Jesus as multitude due to their pagan multy-theos pagan believes. Such statement might be naïve but, not overlooked. Opposite to that, Armenians prior to becoming Christians were pagan, but monotheistic. They believed in supremacy of One God - Sun, Fire, Light. The concept of multiple gods was long abandoned. Thirdly, there were very clear political reasons. The influence of Roman Empire (culturally and politically) was ever growing. Armenian clergymen were scared of that influence and tried to keep their status and independence (and their administrative “chairs” and benefits. Being the first “official” Christians, Armenians thought that their supremacy in the field of Christian establishment would be endangered, and probably to certain extend rejection of Chalcedony was just act of pretense, kind of “Who are you to tell me what is right and what is wrong”, which for good or worst is still very popular as an attitude among many even lay Armenians. There were also political reasons. Armenia was involved in imminent war against Persia. Much needed help from our Christian brothers was denied. At that time Attila was knocking on the door of Rome and preparing to invade the East. Armenians realized that if they accept Chalcedon, due to the strong Byzantium influence Armenian people would be gone as Greeks were pretty much gone despite Greek being the official language of the Eastern Roman Empire. Today, most probably we all would have been something else. Greek and Syrian languages were in circulation along with Armenian. The only good thing is that after a few centuries, after the Seljuk Turks invasion the first independence movements among Christians were marked with struggles for Autonomous Churches. Armenians were spared that struggle, because they were recognized different from East Byzantium Orthodoxy.

Eastern promise for outsourcing software 09.06.2004 With numerous European companies caught in a dilemma of growing technology demands and shrinking IT budgets, outsourcing software development to Russia and the Newly Independent States (NIS) is an increasing attractive option. ADONIS, an IST programme-funded project, is meeting the challenges of this dilemma by assisting European organisations and businesses to outsource software development in collaboration with programmers in Russia and the NIS of the former Soviet Union, primarily Ukraine and Armenia. This is a win-win endeavour - European companies can offer their products and services at competitive prices, while opportunity is created in the participating NIS. Both benefit from rich research and development collaboration. The 10-member consortium collaborated to set up and test a pan-European network of services for outsourcing software tasks. Project partners have since formed a Brussels-based company, NewAdonis SPRL. Outsourcing to NIS and Russia holds "very high potential", according to project manager and company Director Dr Ruben Vardapetian. "The results of 16 pilot projects are still being analysed, but the three countries, including Belarus, have a huge intellectual capital largely unexploited by Europe and unused by their own countries," he explains. Global software outsourcing is a lucrative, multibillion-euro business, with the lion’s share going to India. But Russia is among the rising stars with an annual turnover of Ђ400 million. NIS and Russia offer rapidly growing economies and large, highly educated populations willing to work for lower wages than their European counterparts. Outsourcing is not an entirely new phenomenon in the region. Vardapetian notes that Armenia was producing both hardware and software for the Soviet military since the 1950s. What is new, however, is the growing recognition of companies in Europe and across the Atlantic of its benefits. Outsourcing is becoming synonymous with outsmarting, offering companies the ability to reduce costs, focus on core business activities, compensate for lack of IT staff and access specialised expertise at a highly competitive price. Contact: Dr Ruben Vardapetian NewAdonis SPRL Chaussйe de Wavre 352 1040 Brussels Belgium Tel: +32 -2-2306916 Email: [email protected] http://www.innovations-report.com/html/rep...port-30107.html

I know you speak good English. To betray someone, that someone has to be a friend or an ally first. Capiche? Hell if 50% of the so called "Georgian" population is represented by the pompous and chauvinistic sob's that dwell on this board (excluding you, I can compromise with your kind) 24/7 than I'd rather take the latter.

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Kartvel, as you know Slavs have three sub-branches: East, West & South Slavs. East Slavs are Russians, Belorussians and Ukrainians. West Slavs are Poles, Czechs & Slovaks. South Slavs are Bulgarians, Serbs, Croats, Slovenians and FYROManians. But all these people speak distinct languages and are considered a distinct people. See where i'm getting at? What is your arguement against this analogy: Slavs are a branch of Indo-European languages and peoples which in its turn has its own branches, likewise South-Caucasian (Kartvelian) is a branch of Caucasian languages and peoples with its own branches.

Geffen, chto znachet amalekim/amalekite? ~~~ "Armenia is also sometimes called Amalek in some sources, and Jews often referred to Armenians as Amalekites." http://www.heritagefilms.com/ARMENIA.html http://www.judea.ru/show_topic.php3?topic_id=1573 http://www.asa3.org/archive/asa/200006/0127.html "The Armenians are usually called by the Eastern Jews, Amalekim, perhaps owing to a tradition that they settled in the north, where the present Armenians are found." http://www.jewish-history.com/Palestine/jordan.html "Previously it was populated with Armenians who, because of the extent of their competition in commerce and other good things, were called Amalekites." http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Radekhov/rad311.html "Amasiya. After 1492 (jewish) exiles from Spain settled there in a separate street, where they were merchants and craftsmen. In their neighborhood lived Greeks, and Armenians, popularly called "Amalekites."" http://philologos.org/bpr/files/Sky_Signs/ss013a.htm

http://grants.iatp.irex.am/worldwar2/Heros.html

Ok Kartvel so where is their homeland if it's not the lands they currently occupy? There has to be one since they're obviously a different people. ~~~ Info from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abkhazia#History