Азербайджанские ханства

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Armenia

* All Armenians (Armenian Church)

* Erevan

* Yerevan

Australia

Azerbaijan

* Baku

* Baky

* Ganja

* Guba

* Ilisu

* Karabagh

* Kuba

* Kutkashen

* Nakhchivan

* Qarabagh

* Quba

* Saki

* Salyan

* Samshadil

* Sheki

* Shirvan

* Talish

Erevan, Armenia

BRIEF HISTORY: The Azeri Khanate of Erevan, under Persian sovereignty for almost two centuries, was annexed to the Russian Empire as a result of the Russio-Persian wars of 1804-1813 and 1826-1828.

SOURCES: George A. Bournoutian, The Khanate of Erevan under Qajar Rule 1795-1828, Persian Studies Series no.13, 1992

THANKS TO: Parvin Chayyam ogli Mirzazade

DYNASTY: Kadjar/Qajar

MEMBERS OF THE SOVEREIGN FAMILY:

Descendants in Azerbaijan use the surnames Erevanli, Erevansky (Russian) and Irevanli, Irevanski (Azeri).

To be related:

1 Abbasqulu Khan Erevanli, X 1 Zari Khanum Nakhchivan, daughter of Ehsan Khan, Khan of Nakhchivan, 2 Belqeis Khanum, 3 Tarlan Khanum. Father of:

1.1 (by Belqeis Khanum) Aga Khan. Father of:

1.1.1 Bulbul Khanum, °1897

1.2 (by Belqeis Khanum) Boyuk Khan, X Tavuz Khanum Nakchivanskaya, of the Khans of Nakhchivan. Father of:

1.2.1 Naz Khanum, X 1912 The Khan of Maku

1.2.2 Mehdiqulu Khan Irevanski, Professor, PhD, historian x Kubra Khanum Baqirzade, gynecologist, educ Medical Faculty at Tbilissi University, daughter of Haji Ismail Bey Baqirzade. Father of:

1.2.2.1 Tamilla Khanum, teacher at the USI Univ of Teachers at Baku, X Shamil Mahmudbayov, theatre producer

1.2.2.2 Kamilla Khanum

1.2.2.3 Naila Khanum

1.2.3 Emantadj Khan

1.2.4 Afshan Khanum. Mother of:

1.2.4.1 Ismat Khanum, X Sabit Rahman (Mahmudov), Azerbaijan writer. Mother of:

1.2.4.1.1 Emin Sabit oglu (Mahmudov), Azerbaijan composer, educ Baku Music Academy, + 2001, X 1 (div) Jamila Khanum, 2 Hadija Abbasova. Father of:

1.2.4.1.1.1 Jeyran Khanum, educ Baku Music Academy, °1964. Mother of:

1.2.4.1.1.1.1 daughter

1.2.5 Allahiyar Khan, educ Medical Institute St Petersbourg and Oriental Studies at Baku Univ

1.2.6 Davud Khan

1.2.7 Najaf Khan, educ Moscow Metal Institute

1.2.8 Hasan Khan, exiled in Turkey. Father of:

1.2.8.1 Husein Khan Turgut, General in Turkish Air Force

1.2.9 Fahrantaj Khanum, X Jamshid Khan, Major General Soviet Army, Prof Military Academy in Moscow 1933-1938, Cdr Azerbaijan National Division 1921-1931, Cavalry Offr Imperial Russian Army during World War I, educ Military Academy in Moscow 1931-1933, °1895, +(executed by the Soviet) 1937-1938

1.2.10 Qevhartadj Khanum

1.2.11 Hanlar Khan

1.2.12 Tadji Khanum

1.3 (by Tarlan Khanum) Shevket Khanim Erevanli, X Erevan 1880 Pasha Khan Maku, of the Khans of Maku, °1862, +1934 (X 2 28/7/1901 Stefania Lubieska)

2 .... Erevanli, X Jafarqulu Khan, son of Kalbali Khan (of the Khans of Nakhchivan) by Zari Khanoum Maku (of the Khans of Maku)

3 Soltanat Beyim, sister of Mohammed Khan of Erevan, X Ahmed Khan, 2nd Khan of Khoy 1763-1786, +(killed) 1786

4 Soltanat Beyim, sister of Mohammed Khan of Erevan, X Jafarqulu Khan Dumbuli, 3rd Khan of Khoy 1786-1797, 8th Khan of Sheki 1806-1814, Lt General in the Russian Army (X 1 Sharaf Nisa Beyim, 3 Qovhar Aga Khanum °1796, +1888, daughter of Ibrahim Halil II Aga Khan e Jevanshir, 2nd Khan of Karabagh and Khan of Ganja)

Daughter of Khan Mohammad:

1 Khan Baba Khan, X a daughter of Pce Abbas Mirza, Nayeb Saltaneh 20/3/1799, Crown Pce (see Iran, Kadjar dynasty)

1 ...., X Pce Mahmoud Mirza, Gov of Nahavand, poet, °c1800, +Tabriz 1853 (see Iran, Kadjar dynasty)

Son of Khan Husseingulu:

1 Mohammad Qoli Khan e Kadjar Qoyunlu, General in the Persian Army, X Pcess Shirin Jan Khanoum, daughter of Shahanshah Fath Ali Shah (see Iran, Kadjar dynasty)

2 Mirza Mossa Khan e Kadjar Qoyunlu, X Pcess.... Khanoum, Ezzat on Niza, daughter of Shahanshah Fath Ali Shah (see Iran, Kadjar dynasty)

3 Aziz Bey Sultanov, (non ruling) Khan of Erevan (see below, Predecessors)

Children of Khan Huseinali:

1 Goulamali Khan Kadjar, Khan of Erevan 1783-1784 (see below, Predecessors)

2 Mohammed Khan Kadjar, Khan of Erevan 1784-1805 (see below, Predecessors)

3 Soltanat Beyim, X Jafarqulu Khan Dumbuli, 3rd Khan of Khoy 1786-1797, 8th Khan of Sheki 1806-1814, Lt General in the Russian Army (X 1 Sharaf Nisa Beyim, 3 Qovhar Aga Khanum °1796, +1888, daughter of Ibrahim Halil II Aga Khan e Jevanshir, 2nd Khan of Karabagh and Khan of Ganja)

PREDECESSORS:

Mohammed Gulu Khan, Khan of Erevan 1735-1736

Pirmohammed Khan, Khan of Erevan 1736

....

Halil Khan, Khan of Erevan 1752-1755

Hasanali Khan Kadjar, Khan of Erevan 1755-1763. Brother of:

Huseinali Khan Kadjar, Khan of Erevan 1762-1783. Father of:

Goulamali Khan Kadjar, Khan of Erevan 1783-1784. Brother of:

Mohammed Khan Kadjar, Khan of Erevan 1784-1805, X .... Khanum, °1753/54, daughter of Ahmed Khan, 2nd Khan of Khoy

Mehdigulu Khan, Khan of Erevan 1805-1806

Mohammad Khan e Kadjar Ziadlu, Khan of Erevan 1806-1807, X Pcess Mah Baiji Khanoum, daughter of Shahanshah Fath Ali Shah (see Iran, Kadjar dynasty)

Husseingulu Khan e Kadjar Qoyunlu, Khan of Erevan 1807-1827. Father of:

Aziz Bey Sultanov, (non ruling) Khan of Erevan, X Pcess Fakhri Soltan Khanoum, daughter of Pce Bahman Mirza, Gov of Tabriz (son of Shahanshah Fath Ali Shah by Assieh Khanoum, see Iran, Kadjar dynasty)

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Karabagh, Azerbaijan

BRIEF HISTORY: The Jevanshir family, who founded the Khanate of Karabagh, was part of the Bahmanli tribe that lived in Karabagh. The tribe was moved by (Persia's) Shahanshah Nadir Shah from Karabagh to Khorasan. Following the death of (Persia's) Shahanshah Nadir Shah in 1747, the tribe came back in Karabagh and the Khanate of Karabagh was formed by Panah Ali Khan Jevanshir. The Russians took control of Karabagh in 1806 and annexed it in 1822.

SOURCES:

R.F.Tapsell, Monarch Rulers Dynasties and Kingdoms of the World, Thames and Hudson, London 1983

George A. Bournoutian, A History of Qarabagh, An Annotated Translation of Mirza Jamal Javanshir Qarabaghi’s Tarikh-e Qarabagh, 1994 THANKS TO: Parvin Chayyam ogli Mirzazade (17/7/2001, 21/2/2002)

DYNASTY: Jevanshir or Djevanshir

MEMBERS OF THE SOVEREIGN FAMILY:

Daughter and descendants of 3rd Khan Mehdiqulu:

1 Hurshid Banu Beyim Natavan, Azerbaijani poet, °Shusha 1832, +Shusha 1897, X 1 1850 Hasay Khan Utsmiev, of the Utsmi of the Kaytak in Dagestan, 2 Seyyid Husein. Mother of:

1.1 and 1.2 (by Hasay Khan Utsmiev) 1 son and 1 daughter (see Kaytak)

1.3 (by Seyyid Husein) Mir Abbas, +1885

1.4 (by Seyyid Husein) Hajar Bika Khanum, °1869

Children and descendants of 2nd Khan Ibrahim Halil II:

1 (by Hurshid Beyim) Mehdiqulu Khan, 3rd Khan of Karabagh (see below, Predecessors)

2 Mohammed Hasan Aga Jevanshir, General Major in the Russian Army, +1805, X Magi Sharaf Khanum (X 2 her brother in law Mehdiqulu Khan, 3rd Khan of Karabagh 1806-1822), daughter of Sahbaz Khan II, 1st Khan of Khoy. Father of:

2.1 Jafar Aga, Colonel in the Russian Army

2.2 (by Magi Sharaf Khanum) Boyuk Khan Jevanshir

3 Hanlar Aga, Colonel in the Russian Army

4 Abulfat

5 Husseinqulu Bey

6 Safiqulu Bey

7 ...., X Salim Khan, 6th Khan of Sheki

8 Agha Begum alias Agha Baiji, X (aghdi wife) Fath Ali Shah, Shahanshah (of Persia) 17/6/1797-23/10/1834

9 Qovhar Aga Khanum °1796, +1888, X Jafarqulu Khan Dumbuli, 3rd Khan of Khoy 1786-1797, 8th Khan of Sheki 1806-1814, Lt General in the Russian Army, +1814 (X 1 Sharaf Nisa Beyim, 2 Soltanat Beyim, daughter of Huseinali Khan Kadjar, Khan of Erevan)

10 Azad Beyim, X Abra (Abuturab) Khan, son of Jafarqulu Khan Dumbuli, 3rd Khan of Khoy 1786-1797, 8th Khan of Sheki 1806-1814 (see just above, 9)

Sons and descendants of 1st Khan Panah Ali I:

1 2nd Khan Ibrahim Khalil II (see below, Predecessors)

2 Magrali Bey. Father of:

2.1 Mohammed Bey, +(killed)

To be related:

1 Najafqulu Aga Jevanshir, X Malikjahan Khanum Nuribekova, °Shusa 1870, +Shemakha 1927 (1 (div) Rashid Akhoundov, °1854, son of Azerbaijan writer and critic Mirza Fatali Akhoundov), daughter Haji Boyuk Murad Bey Nuribekov by Pcess Rashanda Khanoum Kadjar

2 Shukur Aga Jevanshir, X Belgeis Banu Beyim, daughter of Mohammed Hasan Khan, 2nd Khan of Ganja 1760-1780, by Huru Bika Khanum (daughter of Mohammed Khan, of the Shamkhal of the Kumukh). Father of:

2.1 Asia Khanum, X Shir Khan

3 Kerim Aga Jevanshir. Father of:

3.1 Saltanat Khanum, X 1871 Mehdiqulu Aga Utsmiev, son of Hasay Khan Utsmiev, of the Utsmis of Kaytak, by Hurshid Banu Beyim Natavan (daughter of 3rd Khan Mehdiqulu Khan)

4 Mohammed Gasim Aga Jevanshir, X Pcess Qizi Khanum, Tadj al Muluk, daughter of Pce Bahman Mirza Kadjar. Father of:

4.1 Mahbegim Khanum Jevanshir, +Lachin, Azerbaijan 1943, X Pce Kamran Mirza, settled down in Tehran 1919, °Shusha 1866, +1935, son of Pce Shahrokh (Sahruh) Mirza Kadjar, Colonel in the Russian Imperial Guard (son of Pce Bahman Mirza Kadjar, see just above)

PREDECESSORS:

Jevanshir, founder of the Jevanshir tribe of Karabagh

Ibrahim Halil I Aga Bey Jevanshir. Father of:

Panah Ali I Khan, °c1693, +8/1759

Panah Ali II Khan, 1st Khan of Karabagh c1747-1761, +Shiraz 1761

Ibrahim Halil II Aga Khan e Jevanshir, 2nd Khan of Karabagh 1761-6/1806, Khan of Ganja 1781-1784, LtGeneral Russian Imperial Army 1805, °c1726, +(killed by the Russians) 6/1806 (bur Agdam), X 1 a daughter of Huseyn Bey, 3rd Khan of Sheki, 2 Hurshid Beyim, °1736, daughter of Shahverdi, 1st Khan of Ganja, 3 Bakhtika, daughter of Mohammed, Khan (Nutsal) of the Avar, 4 Hatay Khanum , daugther of Bahtan, Melik of Dizak, in Karabagh, 5 Tuti Beyim, °1740, +Ganja, daughter of Shahverdi, 1st Khan of Ganja 1747-1760. Son of 1st Khan Panah Ali Khan I and father of:

Mehdiqulu Khan, 3rd Khan of Karabagh 1806-1822, General Major in the Russian Army, °1763, +5/1845, X 1 Badr Jahan Beyim, daughter of Ugurlu Khan, of the Khans of Ganja), 2 Magi Sharaf Khanum (X 1 Mohammed Hasan Aga Jevanshir, General Major in the Russian Army, +1805, see above, Children and descendants of 2nd Khan Ibrahim Halil II, 2), daughter of Sahbaz Khan II, 1st Khan of Khoy

Nakhchivan, Azerbaijan

BRIEF HISTORY (adapted from The Nakhchivan Khanate section of HE The President of Azerbaijan's official website http://www.president.az/azerbaijan/nar/nak-hist-5.html ):

In the middle of the 18th century, the head of the Kangarli tribe declared himself as the Khan of Nakhchivan, a city created in 1500 BC. The Nakhchivan Khanate included Nakhchivan, Sharur, Ordubad, Mehri-Gafan and other provinces. In 1787, Kalbali Khan became the Khan of Nakhchivan after his father Heydaroglu Khan.

Due to the 1st Russian-Persian War (1805-1813), the Nakhchivan Khanate fell into hand of Persia according to the Gulustan Treaty.

In the course of the 2nd Russian-Persian War (1826-1828), the Russian Army captured Nakhchivan in 1827. Annexation of Nakhchivan Khanate forcibly to Russian territory ended in Turkmanchay Peace Treaty which was concluded in 1828 between Russia and Persia. Nakhchivan turned into the chief town of the Region. Its territory was annexed to Georgia-Imereti in 1841, and to Iravan (today Erevan in Armenia) in 1850 which was under control of Azerbaijan.

Like other areas of Azerbaijan, the Nakhchivan lands were staked to Armenians after being captured by Russian Army. As it is known, the Armenians were moved from South Azerbaijan, Tabriz and its regions in 1828, from Arzurum and its regions in 1829-1830 and resided in Nakhchivan and Iravan counties. Beginning from 1905, there happened a bloodshed between Armenian and Azerbaijan people. In 1917 the Armenians made a territorial claim against Nakhchivan.

Today, the Autonomous Republic of Nakhchivan in the Republic of Azerbaijan.

RELATED WEBSITE: The Nakhchivan Khanate section of HE The President of Azerbaijan's official website http://www.president.az/azerbaijan/nar/nak-hist-5.html

RELATED WEBSITE: Timothy F Boettger, Register of the Titled Families and Persons of the Russian Empire, Princes http://www.geocities.com/~tfboettger/russi...ian/princes.htm

DYNASTY: Kangarli tribe

THANKS TO: Parvin Chayyam ogli Mirzazade (17/7/2001)

MEMBERS OF THE SOVEREIGN FAMILY:

Descendants may have served in the Iranian Imperial Army and later taken refuge in California, USA, with the surname Nakhicivan or Kangarli.

Children and descendants of Khan Ehsan:

1 Aga Khanim Nakhchivan, X Shukur Khan Maku, son of Ahmed Khan Maku (of the Khans of Maku) by Pcess Fakhr ed Dowleh (daughter of Pce Abbas Mirza, Nayeb Saltaneh, see Iran, Kadjar dynasty 4.35)

2 Kalbali Khan, Cavalry Major Gen Russian Imperial Army, +1883, X Zari Khanoum Maku (of the Khans of Maku). Father of:

2.1 Hussein Kalbali Khan, Cavalry General in the Russian Imperial Army 23/1/1916, dec 1st cl O. Ste Anne (Russia), 3rd cl Military O. St George, Imperial & Royal O. White Eagle (Poland), and in Austria, Bulgaria, Persia and Romania, °28/7/1863, +St Petersbourg 1/1919, X 1889 Sofia Nikolaevna Taube, °St Petersbourg 1864, +Beirut 7/1941. Father of:

2.1.1 Nikolai Nakchivanski, °25/8/1891, +St Petersbourg 20/2/1912

2.1.2 Yuri Nakchivanski, °St Petersbourg 29/12/1899, +Beirut 8/5/1948, X 1923 Maria Vladimirovna Vatchar, °11/5/1897, +Cairo 1/1974. Father of:

2.1.2.1 Nikita Nakchivanski, °18/4/1924

2.1.2.2 Tatyana Nakchivanskaya, °7/11/1925, +20/11/1975

2.1.2.3 Maria Nakchivanskaya, °21/1/1927

2.1.3 (Pcess) Tatyana Nakchivanskaya, °St Petersbourg 30/6/1894, +Nice, Fce 3/5/1972, X .... Martinov, from Russia, emigrated to Paris

2.2 Ehsan Khan

2.3 Jafarqulu Khan, X .... Erivanli (of the Khans of Erevan). Father of:

2.3.1 Nazli (Naz) Khanim, X Mehdi Khan, brother of Abbas Pasha Khan Maku (of the Khans of Maku)

2.3.2 Davud Khan, Lt Colonel in Azerbaijan Army, +(killed by Armenians) 1920

2.3.3 Teymour Khan

2.3.4 Jamshid Khan, Major General Soviet Army, Prof Military Academy in Moscow 1933-1938, Cdr Azerbaijan National Division 1921-1931, Cavalry Offr Imperial Russian Army during World War I, educ Military Academy in Moscow 1931-1933, °1895, +(executed by the Soviet) 1937-1938, X Fahrantadj Khanum, daughter of Boyuk Khan, of the Khans of Erevan, by Tavuz Khanum Nakchivanskaya (see below). Father of:

2.3.4.1 Aliya Khanim (Tbilissi, Georgia)

2.3.5 Kalbali Khan, General Iranian Army, exiled to Persia, Chm of Defence Council of the Araz-Turk Republic 1918-1919, General in Azerbaijan Army 1918-1920, Colonel Russian Imperial Army, +(by the Pahlavi) 1934

2.3.6 Nazhanim Khanim, X the Khan of Maku

2.3.7 Ehsan Khan, Col in the Iranian Army, exiled to Persia, +(killed by the Pahlavi) 1934

2.4 Sattara Khanim

2.5 Shabnaim Khanim

3 Rahim Khan Nakhchivan, X Minavar Khanim Maku, daughter of Shukur Khan Maku (of the Khans of Maku), X Aga Khanim Nakhchivan (see above, 1). Father of:

3.1 Iskander Khan Nakhchivan

3.2 Papile Khanoum Nakhchivan, X Pce Fazl Kadjar

4 Zari Khanim Nakhchivan, X Abbas Gulu Khan Erevanli (of the Khans of Erevan)

5 Lala Khanim

6 Ismail Khan, LtGen Imperial Russian Army, °1819,+1908. Father of:

6.1 Aman or Amanullah Khan, X Khan Bika (Fatma Bika) Khanum Utsmieva, daughter of Hasay Khan Utsmiev, of the Utsmi of the Kaytak, by Hurshud Banu Beyim Natavan, of the Khans of Karabagh). Father of:

6.1.1 Sanubar Khanum Nakchivanskaya, X Ismail Pasha Khan Ziadkhanov, Head of Ganja Police 1917, MP (Russian Duma) 1905, lawyer, educ Moscow Univ, °1867, + (executed by the Soviet) 1920, son of Abulfat Aga Khan, of the Khans of Ganja, by Pcess Azeri Humayun Khanoum Kadjar

6.1.2 Anver Bika Khanum Nakchivanskaya, X HSH (Russia 14/8/1886 mp) Pce Fatali Mirza Persidsky, Offr in the Russian Imperial Guard, son of HIllH Pce Rizaqulu Khan Persidsky (see Iran, Kadjar)

7 Baba Khan

8 Sona Khanim

Children and descendants of Khan Kalbali:

1 Seyhali Khan

2 Ehsan Khan, 3rd Khan of Nakhchivan 1823-1828 (see below, Predecessors)

3 Farac Khan

4 Mehdi Khan

5 Nazarali Khan

to be related:

1 Hurshud Khanum Nakchivanskaya, opera singer at the Azerbaijan State Opera and Ballet Theatre under the Kadjar surname, +Baku, X Pce Feyzulla Khan Persidsky, Major General in the Russian Imperial Army 1918-1920 then in the Azerbaijan Army, educ Nicolaev Cavalry School, +(killed by the Bolchevik) 1920, son of HSH Pce Safi Khan Persidsky, Major General in the Russian Imperial Army (see Iran, Kadjar)

2 Tavuz Khanum Nakchivanskaya, X Boyuk Khan, son of Abbasqulu Khan Erevanli, of the Khans of Erevan by Belqeis Khanum

3 Hagan Khan Nakchivanski, +after 1920, X Pcess Ashraf Khanoum, daughter of Pce Bahman Mirza Kadjar

PREDECESSORS:

Heydaroglu or Hedargulu Khan, 1st Khan of Nakhchivan 1747-1787. Father of:

Kalbali Khan, 2nd Khan of Nakhchivan 1787-1823, +Tabriz 1823, X Tukazban Khanim. Father of:

Ehsan Khan, 3rd Khan of Nakhchivan 1823-deposed 1828, Major Gen in the Russian Imperial Army, X Zari Khanim Maku (of the Khans of Maku)

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п.с. а где же армянские государства и династии, вообще за последние 12 веков не было ни одной ХОТЬ САМОЙ никудышной, двух летней армянской династии.

[Ворон]

Эх бедные мы горемычные... ну да ничего..зато сейчас у нас аж два государства ... Ну и куча азербайджанских территорий... даже и не знаем что с ними делать ... толи вернуть а толи не стоит...а бедные потомки гуннов в палатках живут... одна радость осталась - родословные азербайджанских "ханских" династий перечитывать..есть чем душу согреть....

Так держать- не забывайте лица отцов ваших ...даже если они не ханы а простые разбойники и мародеры (кто будет помнить о том через много лет)..

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флаг тебе в руки и обегай захваченные территории (радости наглой тебе хоть отбавляй)......................... хорошо признал то, что они захвачены..................

это новый вариант, когда нету аргументов в дискуссии, после 20 минутных задумий такой глубокомысленный пост....

РЕСПЕКТ!!!

[Vaspur]

Armenia

* All Armenians (Armenian Church)

* Erevan

* Yerevan

Australia

Azerbaijan

* Baku

* Baky

* Ganja

* Guba

* Ilisu

* Karabagh

* Kuba

* Kutkashen

* Nakhchivan

* Qarabagh

* Quba

* Saki

* Salyan

* Samshadil

* Sheki

* Shirvan

* Talish

Erevan, Armenia

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.v etot spisok ,dlja polnoj uverennosti nado bi "Garabag" dopisat ... budet srazu 3

Edited December 19, 2003 by Vaspur

[Sevak]

А эти ханы оставили после себя, какое ни будь "культурное наследие" - архивы, библиотеки, коллекции картин, произведения искусства, дворцы, мечети, университеты, театры .......?

[HOB]

Так господа, вижу они опять решили указать такой "авторитетный" источник как альманах.бе. :lol: Правда на этот раз под другим соусом.

Небольшой экскурс в историю. Месяца 3-4 назад на бакилиларе Зиядлы пытался вешать очередную лапшу на уши Грант (да простит меня Грант), тыкая вот именно этим сайтом (альманахом.бе тааа) и говоря, что это...."сайт бельгиского королевского дома". :lol: После того, как я прочел эту откровенную херню и найдя реальный сайт бельг.кор.дома, это дело так сказать "замяли".

Теперь вот опять атилла достал из своих архивов этот "источник", который в лучшем случае может быть расценен как "полет фантазии" какого то горе-историка....Провал господа азеры, опять провал. :lol: You look so primitive

А об остальных ссылках думаю и говорить не стоит.

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Hayer jan,

Mi xosqov hertakan apushik saiten berum, vreqnere kaifovat e kareli anel, baic vochte lurj zrucel.

Так что ребята, даже не начинайте каких-либо дисскусий касательно этой Alternatively just have fun.

Edited December 19, 2003 by HOB

[HOB]

А эти ханы оставили после себя, какое ни будь "культурное наследие" - архивы, библиотеки, коллекции картин, произведения искусства, дворцы, мечети, университеты, театры .......?

Какие ханы Севак джан? Азербайджанские "ханы"??? :lol: При том усердии, с которым они присваивают себе историю армян, персов, грузинов, лезгин....не мудренно, что скоро мы узнаем о "халифате азербайджанском" на Марсе (что бы они туда попало безвозвратно).

Ахпер не надо серьезно воспринимать всякую 10сортную чушь, которую порет атилла на всех форумах. Уверен, что эта же мура уже висит на букилилюре под радостное тявкание тамошних обитателей.

[HOB]

Ну я же говорил - висит уже эта херня на букилилюре. "Ала саит пелькоскофо qаралефсqово тома тааа" :lol: Ай да младец. :lol: Блин, на хрен нам Смехопанорама? Атилла-сам себе режиссер. Ставит чушь-и радуется. Короче, молодев атилла, наш человек, в смысле на нас работаешь.

Одинокий лев, он там к тебе обращается - сделай одолжение скопируй ему текст повыше и напиши - и да будет с сегодняшнего дня это оффициальным сайтом бельгийского королевского дома, повествующем о доблестных "аз-их ханах", ибо так нарекли этот сайт азеры! :lol:

Edited December 19, 2003 by HOB

[xes]

Armenia

* All Armenians (Armenian Church)

* Erevan

* Yerevan

Australia

Azerbaijan

* Baku

* Baky

* Ganja

* Guba

* Ilisu

* Karabagh

* Kuba

* Kutkashen

* Nakhchivan

* Qarabagh

* Quba

* Saki

* Salyan

* Samshadil

* Sheki

* Shirvan

* Talish

Erevan, Armenia

BRIEF HISTORY: The Azeri Khanate of Erevan, under Persian sovereignty for almost two centuries, was annexed to the Russian Empire as a result of the Russio-Persian wars of 1804-1813 and 1826-1828.

SOURCES: George A. Bournoutian, The Khanate of Erevan under Qajar Rule 1795-1828, Persian Studies Series no.13, 1992

THANKS TO: Parvin Chayyam ogli Mirzazade

DYNASTY: Kadjar/Qajar

MEMBERS OF THE SOVEREIGN FAMILY:

Descendants in Azerbaijan use the surnames Erevanli, Erevansky (Russian) and Irevanli, Irevanski (Azeri).

To be related:

1 Abbasqulu Khan Erevanli, X 1 Zari Khanum Nakhchivan, daughter of Ehsan Khan, Khan of Nakhchivan, 2 Belqeis Khanum, 3 Tarlan Khanum. Father of:

1.1 (by Belqeis Khanum) Aga Khan. Father of:

1.1.1 Bulbul Khanum, °1897

1.2 (by Belqeis Khanum) Boyuk Khan, X Tavuz Khanum Nakchivanskaya, of the Khans of Nakhchivan. Father of:

1.2.1 Naz Khanum, X 1912 The Khan of Maku

1.2.2 Mehdiqulu Khan Irevanski, Professor, PhD, historian x Kubra Khanum Baqirzade, gynecologist, educ Medical Faculty at Tbilissi University, daughter of Haji Ismail Bey Baqirzade. Father of:

1.2.2.1 Tamilla Khanum, teacher at the USI Univ of Teachers at Baku, X Shamil Mahmudbayov, theatre producer

1.2.2.2 Kamilla Khanum

1.2.2.3 Naila Khanum

1.2.3 Emantadj Khan

1.2.4 Afshan Khanum. Mother of:

1.2.4.1 Ismat Khanum, X Sabit Rahman (Mahmudov), Azerbaijan writer. Mother of:

1.2.4.1.1 Emin Sabit oglu (Mahmudov), Azerbaijan composer, educ Baku Music Academy, + 2001, X 1 (div) Jamila Khanum, 2 Hadija Abbasova. Father of:

1.2.4.1.1.1 Jeyran Khanum, educ Baku Music Academy, °1964. Mother of:

1.2.4.1.1.1.1 daughter

1.2.5 Allahiyar Khan, educ Medical Institute St Petersbourg and Oriental Studies at Baku Univ

1.2.6 Davud Khan

1.2.7 Najaf Khan, educ Moscow Metal Institute

1.2.8 Hasan Khan, exiled in Turkey. Father of:

1.2.8.1 Husein Khan Turgut, General in Turkish Air Force

1.2.9 Fahrantaj Khanum, X Jamshid Khan, Major General Soviet Army, Prof Military Academy in Moscow 1933-1938, Cdr Azerbaijan National Division 1921-1931, Cavalry Offr Imperial Russian Army during World War I, educ Military Academy in Moscow 1931-1933, °1895, +(executed by the Soviet) 1937-1938

1.2.10 Qevhartadj Khanum

1.2.11 Hanlar Khan

1.2.12 Tadji Khanum

1.3 (by Tarlan Khanum) Shevket Khanim Erevanli, X Erevan 1880 Pasha Khan Maku, of the Khans of Maku, °1862, +1934 (X 2 28/7/1901 Stefania Lubieska)

2 .... Erevanli, X Jafarqulu Khan, son of Kalbali Khan (of the Khans of Nakhchivan) by Zari Khanoum Maku (of the Khans of Maku)

3 Soltanat Beyim, sister of Mohammed Khan of Erevan, X Ahmed Khan, 2nd Khan of Khoy 1763-1786, +(killed) 1786

4 Soltanat Beyim, sister of Mohammed Khan of Erevan, X Jafarqulu Khan Dumbuli, 3rd Khan of Khoy 1786-1797, 8th Khan of Sheki 1806-1814, Lt General in the Russian Army (X 1 Sharaf Nisa Beyim, 3 Qovhar Aga Khanum °1796, +1888, daughter of Ibrahim Halil II Aga Khan e Jevanshir, 2nd Khan of Karabagh and Khan of Ganja)

Daughter of Khan Mohammad:

1 Khan Baba Khan, X a daughter of Pce Abbas Mirza, Nayeb Saltaneh 20/3/1799, Crown Pce (see Iran, Kadjar dynasty)

1 ...., X Pce Mahmoud Mirza, Gov of Nahavand, poet, °c1800, +Tabriz 1853 (see Iran, Kadjar dynasty)

Son of Khan Husseingulu:

1 Mohammad Qoli Khan e Kadjar Qoyunlu, General in the Persian Army, X Pcess Shirin Jan Khanoum, daughter of Shahanshah Fath Ali Shah (see Iran, Kadjar dynasty)

2 Mirza Mossa Khan e Kadjar Qoyunlu, X Pcess.... Khanoum, Ezzat on Niza, daughter of Shahanshah Fath Ali Shah (see Iran, Kadjar dynasty)

3 Aziz Bey Sultanov, (non ruling) Khan of Erevan (see below, Predecessors)

Children of Khan Huseinali:

1 Goulamali Khan Kadjar, Khan of Erevan 1783-1784 (see below, Predecessors)

2 Mohammed Khan Kadjar, Khan of Erevan 1784-1805 (see below, Predecessors)

3 Soltanat Beyim, X Jafarqulu Khan Dumbuli, 3rd Khan of Khoy 1786-1797, 8th Khan of Sheki 1806-1814, Lt General in the Russian Army (X 1 Sharaf Nisa Beyim, 3 Qovhar Aga Khanum °1796, +1888, daughter of Ibrahim Halil II Aga Khan e Jevanshir, 2nd Khan of Karabagh and Khan of Ganja)

PREDECESSORS:

Mohammed Gulu Khan, Khan of Erevan 1735-1736

Pirmohammed Khan, Khan of Erevan 1736

....

Halil Khan, Khan of Erevan 1752-1755

Hasanali Khan Kadjar, Khan of Erevan 1755-1763. Brother of:

Huseinali Khan Kadjar, Khan of Erevan 1762-1783. Father of:

Goulamali Khan Kadjar, Khan of Erevan 1783-1784. Brother of:

Mohammed Khan Kadjar, Khan of Erevan 1784-1805, X .... Khanum, °1753/54, daughter of Ahmed Khan, 2nd Khan of Khoy

Mehdigulu Khan, Khan of Erevan 1805-1806

Mohammad Khan e Kadjar Ziadlu, Khan of Erevan 1806-1807, X Pcess Mah Baiji Khanoum, daughter of Shahanshah Fath Ali Shah (see Iran, Kadjar dynasty)

Husseingulu Khan e Kadjar Qoyunlu, Khan of Erevan 1807-1827. Father of:

Aziz Bey Sultanov, (non ruling) Khan of Erevan, X Pcess Fakhri Soltan Khanoum, daughter of Pce Bahman Mirza, Gov of Tabriz (son of Shahanshah Fath Ali Shah by Assieh Khanoum, see Iran, Kadjar dynasty)

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Karabagh, Azerbaijan

BRIEF HISTORY: The Jevanshir family, who founded the Khanate of Karabagh, was part of the Bahmanli tribe that lived in Karabagh. The tribe was moved by (Persia's) Shahanshah Nadir Shah from Karabagh to Khorasan. Following the death of (Persia's) Shahanshah Nadir Shah in 1747, the tribe came back in Karabagh and the Khanate of Karabagh was formed by Panah Ali Khan Jevanshir. The Russians took control of Karabagh in 1806 and annexed it in 1822.

SOURCES:

R.F.Tapsell, Monarch Rulers Dynasties and Kingdoms of the World, Thames and Hudson, London 1983

George A. Bournoutian, A History of Qarabagh, An Annotated Translation of Mirza Jamal Javanshir Qarabaghi’s Tarikh-e Qarabagh, 1994 THANKS TO: Parvin Chayyam ogli Mirzazade (17/7/2001, 21/2/2002)

DYNASTY: Jevanshir or Djevanshir

MEMBERS OF THE SOVEREIGN FAMILY:

Daughter and descendants of 3rd Khan Mehdiqulu:

1 Hurshid Banu Beyim Natavan, Azerbaijani poet, °Shusha 1832, +Shusha 1897, X 1 1850 Hasay Khan Utsmiev, of the Utsmi of the Kaytak in Dagestan, 2 Seyyid Husein. Mother of:

1.1 and 1.2 (by Hasay Khan Utsmiev) 1 son and 1 daughter (see Kaytak)

1.3 (by Seyyid Husein) Mir Abbas, +1885

1.4 (by Seyyid Husein) Hajar Bika Khanum, °1869

Children and descendants of 2nd Khan Ibrahim Halil II:

1 (by Hurshid Beyim) Mehdiqulu Khan, 3rd Khan of Karabagh (see below, Predecessors)

2 Mohammed Hasan Aga Jevanshir, General Major in the Russian Army, +1805, X Magi Sharaf Khanum (X 2 her brother in law Mehdiqulu Khan, 3rd Khan of Karabagh 1806-1822), daughter of Sahbaz Khan II, 1st Khan of Khoy. Father of:

2.1 Jafar Aga, Colonel in the Russian Army

2.2 (by Magi Sharaf Khanum) Boyuk Khan Jevanshir

3 Hanlar Aga, Colonel in the Russian Army

4 Abulfat

5 Husseinqulu Bey

6 Safiqulu Bey

7 ...., X Salim Khan, 6th Khan of Sheki

8 Agha Begum alias Agha Baiji, X (aghdi wife) Fath Ali Shah, Shahanshah (of Persia) 17/6/1797-23/10/1834

9 Qovhar Aga Khanum °1796, +1888, X Jafarqulu Khan Dumbuli, 3rd Khan of Khoy 1786-1797, 8th Khan of Sheki 1806-1814, Lt General in the Russian Army, +1814 (X 1 Sharaf Nisa Beyim, 2 Soltanat Beyim, daughter of Huseinali Khan Kadjar, Khan of Erevan)

10 Azad Beyim, X Abra (Abuturab) Khan, son of Jafarqulu Khan Dumbuli, 3rd Khan of Khoy 1786-1797, 8th Khan of Sheki 1806-1814 (see just above, 9)

Sons and descendants of 1st Khan Panah Ali I:

1 2nd Khan Ibrahim Khalil II (see below, Predecessors)

2 Magrali Bey. Father of:

2.1 Mohammed Bey, +(killed)

To be related:

1 Najafqulu Aga Jevanshir, X Malikjahan Khanum Nuribekova, °Shusa 1870, +Shemakha 1927 (1 (div) Rashid Akhoundov, °1854, son of Azerbaijan writer and critic Mirza Fatali Akhoundov), daughter Haji Boyuk Murad Bey Nuribekov by Pcess Rashanda Khanoum Kadjar

2 Shukur Aga Jevanshir, X Belgeis Banu Beyim, daughter of Mohammed Hasan Khan, 2nd Khan of Ganja 1760-1780, by Huru Bika Khanum (daughter of Mohammed Khan, of the Shamkhal of the Kumukh). Father of:

2.1 Asia Khanum, X Shir Khan

3 Kerim Aga Jevanshir. Father of:

3.1 Saltanat Khanum, X 1871 Mehdiqulu Aga Utsmiev, son of Hasay Khan Utsmiev, of the Utsmis of Kaytak, by Hurshid Banu Beyim Natavan (daughter of 3rd Khan Mehdiqulu Khan)

4 Mohammed Gasim Aga Jevanshir, X Pcess Qizi Khanum, Tadj al Muluk, daughter of Pce Bahman Mirza Kadjar. Father of:

4.1 Mahbegim Khanum Jevanshir, +Lachin, Azerbaijan 1943, X Pce Kamran Mirza, settled down in Tehran 1919, °Shusha 1866, +1935, son of Pce Shahrokh (Sahruh) Mirza Kadjar, Colonel in the Russian Imperial Guard (son of Pce Bahman Mirza Kadjar, see just above)

PREDECESSORS:

Jevanshir, founder of the Jevanshir tribe of Karabagh

Ibrahim Halil I Aga Bey Jevanshir. Father of:

Panah Ali I Khan, °c1693, +8/1759

Panah Ali II Khan, 1st Khan of Karabagh c1747-1761, +Shiraz 1761

Ibrahim Halil II Aga Khan e Jevanshir, 2nd Khan of Karabagh 1761-6/1806, Khan of Ganja 1781-1784, LtGeneral Russian Imperial Army 1805, °c1726, +(killed by the Russians) 6/1806 (bur Agdam), X 1 a daughter of Huseyn Bey, 3rd Khan of Sheki, 2 Hurshid Beyim, °1736, daughter of Shahverdi, 1st Khan of Ganja, 3 Bakhtika, daughter of Mohammed, Khan (Nutsal) of the Avar, 4 Hatay Khanum , daugther of Bahtan, Melik of Dizak, in Karabagh, 5 Tuti Beyim, °1740, +Ganja, daughter of Shahverdi, 1st Khan of Ganja 1747-1760. Son of 1st Khan Panah Ali Khan I and father of:

Mehdiqulu Khan, 3rd Khan of Karabagh 1806-1822, General Major in the Russian Army, °1763, +5/1845, X 1 Badr Jahan Beyim, daughter of Ugurlu Khan, of the Khans of Ganja), 2 Magi Sharaf Khanum (X 1 Mohammed Hasan Aga Jevanshir, General Major in the Russian Army, +1805, see above, Children and descendants of 2nd Khan Ibrahim Halil II, 2), daughter of Sahbaz Khan II, 1st Khan of Khoy

Nakhchivan, Azerbaijan

BRIEF HISTORY (adapted from The Nakhchivan Khanate section of HE The President of Azerbaijan's official website http://www.president.az/azerbaijan/nar/nak-hist-5.html ):

In the middle of the 18th century, the head of the Kangarli tribe declared himself as the Khan of Nakhchivan, a city created in 1500 BC. The Nakhchivan Khanate included Nakhchivan, Sharur, Ordubad, Mehri-Gafan and other provinces. In 1787, Kalbali Khan became the Khan of Nakhchivan after his father Heydaroglu Khan.

Due to the 1st Russian-Persian War (1805-1813), the Nakhchivan Khanate fell into hand of Persia according to the Gulustan Treaty.

In the course of the 2nd Russian-Persian War (1826-1828), the Russian Army captured Nakhchivan in 1827. Annexation of Nakhchivan Khanate forcibly to Russian territory ended in Turkmanchay Peace Treaty which was concluded in 1828 between Russia and Persia. Nakhchivan turned into the chief town of the Region. Its territory was annexed to Georgia-Imereti in 1841, and to Iravan (today Erevan in Armenia) in 1850 which was under control of Azerbaijan.

Like other areas of Azerbaijan, the Nakhchivan lands were staked to Armenians after being captured by Russian Army. As it is known, the Armenians were moved from South Azerbaijan, Tabriz and its regions in 1828, from Arzurum and its regions in 1829-1830 and resided in Nakhchivan and Iravan counties. Beginning from 1905, there happened a bloodshed between Armenian and Azerbaijan people. In 1917 the Armenians made a territorial claim against Nakhchivan.

Today, the Autonomous Republic of Nakhchivan in the Republic of Azerbaijan.

RELATED WEBSITE: The Nakhchivan Khanate section of HE The President of Azerbaijan's official website http://www.president.az/azerbaijan/nar/nak-hist-5.html

RELATED WEBSITE: Timothy F Boettger, Register of the Titled Families and Persons of the Russian Empire, Princes http://www.geocities.com/~tfboettger/russi...ian/princes.htm

DYNASTY: Kangarli tribe

THANKS TO: Parvin Chayyam ogli Mirzazade (17/7/2001)

MEMBERS OF THE SOVEREIGN FAMILY:

Descendants may have served in the Iranian Imperial Army and later taken refuge in California, USA, with the surname Nakhicivan or Kangarli.

Children and descendants of Khan Ehsan:

1 Aga Khanim Nakhchivan, X Shukur Khan Maku, son of Ahmed Khan Maku (of the Khans of Maku) by Pcess Fakhr ed Dowleh (daughter of Pce Abbas Mirza, Nayeb Saltaneh, see Iran, Kadjar dynasty 4.35)

2 Kalbali Khan, Cavalry Major Gen Russian Imperial Army, +1883, X Zari Khanoum Maku (of the Khans of Maku). Father of:

2.1 Hussein Kalbali Khan, Cavalry General in the Russian Imperial Army 23/1/1916, dec 1st cl O. Ste Anne (Russia), 3rd cl Military O. St George, Imperial & Royal O. White Eagle (Poland), and in Austria, Bulgaria, Persia and Romania, °28/7/1863, +St Petersbourg 1/1919, X 1889 Sofia Nikolaevna Taube, °St Petersbourg 1864, +Beirut 7/1941. Father of:

2.1.1 Nikolai Nakchivanski, °25/8/1891, +St Petersbourg 20/2/1912

2.1.2 Yuri Nakchivanski, °St Petersbourg 29/12/1899, +Beirut 8/5/1948, X 1923 Maria Vladimirovna Vatchar, °11/5/1897, +Cairo 1/1974. Father of:

2.1.2.1 Nikita Nakchivanski, °18/4/1924

2.1.2.2 Tatyana Nakchivanskaya, °7/11/1925, +20/11/1975

2.1.2.3 Maria Nakchivanskaya, °21/1/1927

2.1.3 (Pcess) Tatyana Nakchivanskaya, °St Petersbourg 30/6/1894, +Nice, Fce 3/5/1972, X .... Martinov, from Russia, emigrated to Paris

2.2 Ehsan Khan

2.3 Jafarqulu Khan, X .... Erivanli (of the Khans of Erevan). Father of:

2.3.1 Nazli (Naz) Khanim, X Mehdi Khan, brother of Abbas Pasha Khan Maku (of the Khans of Maku)

2.3.2 Davud Khan, Lt Colonel in Azerbaijan Army, +(killed by Armenians) 1920

2.3.3 Teymour Khan

2.3.4 Jamshid Khan, Major General Soviet Army, Prof Military Academy in Moscow 1933-1938, Cdr Azerbaijan National Division 1921-1931, Cavalry Offr Imperial Russian Army during World War I, educ Military Academy in Moscow 1931-1933, °1895, +(executed by the Soviet) 1937-1938, X Fahrantadj Khanum, daughter of Boyuk Khan, of the Khans of Erevan, by Tavuz Khanum Nakchivanskaya (see below). Father of:

2.3.4.1 Aliya Khanim (Tbilissi, Georgia)

2.3.5 Kalbali Khan, General Iranian Army, exiled to Persia, Chm of Defence Council of the Araz-Turk Republic 1918-1919, General in Azerbaijan Army 1918-1920, Colonel Russian Imperial Army, +(by the Pahlavi) 1934

2.3.6 Nazhanim Khanim, X the Khan of Maku

2.3.7 Ehsan Khan, Col in the Iranian Army, exiled to Persia, +(killed by the Pahlavi) 1934

2.4 Sattara Khanim

2.5 Shabnaim Khanim

3 Rahim Khan Nakhchivan, X Minavar Khanim Maku, daughter of Shukur Khan Maku (of the Khans of Maku), X Aga Khanim Nakhchivan (see above, 1). Father of:

3.1 Iskander Khan Nakhchivan

3.2 Papile Khanoum Nakhchivan, X Pce Fazl Kadjar

4 Zari Khanim Nakhchivan, X Abbas Gulu Khan Erevanli (of the Khans of Erevan)

5 Lala Khanim

6 Ismail Khan, LtGen Imperial Russian Army, °1819,+1908. Father of:

6.1 Aman or Amanullah Khan, X Khan Bika (Fatma Bika) Khanum Utsmieva, daughter of Hasay Khan Utsmiev, of the Utsmi of the Kaytak, by Hurshud Banu Beyim Natavan, of the Khans of Karabagh). Father of:

6.1.1 Sanubar Khanum Nakchivanskaya, X Ismail Pasha Khan Ziadkhanov, Head of Ganja Police 1917, MP (Russian Duma) 1905, lawyer, educ Moscow Univ, °1867, + (executed by the Soviet) 1920, son of Abulfat Aga Khan, of the Khans of Ganja, by Pcess Azeri Humayun Khanoum Kadjar

6.1.2 Anver Bika Khanum Nakchivanskaya, X HSH (Russia 14/8/1886 mp) Pce Fatali Mirza Persidsky, Offr in the Russian Imperial Guard, son of HIllH Pce Rizaqulu Khan Persidsky (see Iran, Kadjar)

7 Baba Khan

8 Sona Khanim

Children and descendants of Khan Kalbali:

1 Seyhali Khan

2 Ehsan Khan, 3rd Khan of Nakhchivan 1823-1828 (see below, Predecessors)

3 Farac Khan

4 Mehdi Khan

5 Nazarali Khan

to be related:

1 Hurshud Khanum Nakchivanskaya, opera singer at the Azerbaijan State Opera and Ballet Theatre under the Kadjar surname, +Baku, X Pce Feyzulla Khan Persidsky, Major General in the Russian Imperial Army 1918-1920 then in the Azerbaijan Army, educ Nicolaev Cavalry School, +(killed by the Bolchevik) 1920, son of HSH Pce Safi Khan Persidsky, Major General in the Russian Imperial Army (see Iran, Kadjar)

2 Tavuz Khanum Nakchivanskaya, X Boyuk Khan, son of Abbasqulu Khan Erevanli, of the Khans of Erevan by Belqeis Khanum

3 Hagan Khan Nakchivanski, +after 1920, X Pcess Ashraf Khanoum, daughter of Pce Bahman Mirza Kadjar

PREDECESSORS:

Heydaroglu or Hedargulu Khan, 1st Khan of Nakhchivan 1747-1787. Father of:

Kalbali Khan, 2nd Khan of Nakhchivan 1787-1823, +Tabriz 1823, X Tukazban Khanim. Father of:

Ehsan Khan, 3rd Khan of Nakhchivan 1823-deposed 1828, Major Gen in the Russian Imperial Army, X Zari Khanim Maku (of the Khans of Maku)

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п.с. а где же армянские государства и династии, вообще за последние 12 веков не было ни одной ХОТЬ САМОЙ никудышной, двух летней армянской династии.     

You are indeed indoctrinated.

Edited December 20, 2003 by xes

[Arin-Berd]

А эти ханы оставили после себя, какое ни будь "культурное наследие" - архивы, библиотеки, коллекции картин, произведения искусства, дворцы, мечети, университеты, театры .......?

Конечно, так и было написано «Я, великй хан Азербайджана и азербайджанского народа...». Жаль Буниятова больше нет, а то бы показал.

Да вопрос даже не в культуурном наследии, они даже не способны понимать в чем у них тормоз. Для азера, там где вообще проходила нога тюрка, то было азерское. А потом обижаются, когда их монголами называем. Для них все тюрки, персы, арабы, и т.д. стоили историю Азербайджана. Вон в теме о находке в туве говорится о том, что

Завершившийся археологический сезон в тувинской "Долине царей" принес сенсацию: петербургские ученые обнаружили скифские захоронения VIII-VII веков до нашей эры. Находка в корне меняет представления о причерноморском происхождении скифов - найденные захоронения древнее известных до сих пор причерноморских памятников кочевников.

Через месяц на сайте дебила боз-гурда появится статья о том, что скифы-азеры жили по всему пространству Евразии . Разве не весело?

[Arin-Berd]

HOB джан,

что за фотка плохого качества? Мне не понять кто там сидят? То ли черно-баранные, то ли бело-баранные. То ли красно-баранные стали от кровосмешeния.

[Qeri]

То ли черно-баранные, то ли бело-баранные.   То ли красно-баранные стали от кровосмешeния.

Arin-Berd gan,

kakay raznica, glavnoe, chto ...-barannie.

A ti znaesh`, axper, kakoe samoe lubimoe chtivo u baranov?

альманах.бе..eeee

Kak proiznositsya, tak i pishetsy.

attillushka, bolshe nikogda ne begaj, ne raznosi von` po uglam, jdi poka pridut i dernut ruchku, .... , strashno stalo, ti ne bois` ne tvou, a ot bochka.

Posle togo kak voda smoet, von` postepenno rasseetsya.

[xes]

Human rights abuse in Azerbajan seen by an investigative reporter

Edited December 20, 2003 by xes

[Unregistered - V]

Human rights abuse in Azerbajan seen by an investigative reporter

[Артём Карабекян]

Ну и что?

Все эти ханы были вассалами персидского шаха, для утверждения на управлению какой-либо областью (ханством) требовалось специальное разрешение шаха - фирман, без которого даже наследный хан не мог перенять правление отца. Поэтому все эти ханы старательно вылизывали шаху пятки, дабы выклянчить столь нужный фирман. Иначе шах мог пнуть любого хана и утвердить на его месте другого, поначалу термин "хан" обозначал всего лишь назначаемую должность и только в середине 18-го века, с ослаблением центральной власти шаха окончательно сложилась наследственная форма ханского правления на определённой территории и они получили относительную самостоятельность во внутренних делах. Однако ханы продолжали исправно платить шаху налоги в центральную казну вплоть до присоединения их земель к России, они продолжали пресмыкаться перед шахом, выпрашивая для себя фирманы на право управления.

Современные азербайджанские историки преподносят термин "ханство", приплюсовав к нему прилагательное "азербайджанское", как некое независимое тюркское гоударство. Или даже совокупность таких государств - "Южный" и "Северный" Азербайджан. Будто бы на территории исторической провинции Азарбайджан (между Тебризом и Ардебилем) и в Юго-Восточном Закавказье (нынешний Азербайджан) существовали какие-то "суверенные азербайджанские ханства-государства". Вы таким образом приписали себе пару-тройку веков государственности, отсчитывая таковую от времени образования первых ханств. Однако, всем известно, что никаких независимых ханств не было. Это были ПЕРСИДСКИЕ ПРОВИНЦИИ - территории Персии, управляемые ШАХСКИМИ АДМИНИСТРАТОРАМИ - ХАНАМИ. Ни один хан никогда не был независим и ни одно ханство никогда не было субъектом тогдашнего международного права.

Ханы были всего лишь своего рода "губернаторами", чиновники высокого уровня, в Иране тех времён, и никаким суверенитетом не обладали, а потому нечего приписывать себе чужую историю, в данном случае персидскую.

Интересна история русско-персидских войн, когда ханы в зависимости от военного успеха сторон присягали на верность то шаху, то русскому царю. Теперь ваши историки показывают какие-то справки, подписанные ханами и российскими офицерами - вот значит, ханы приняли российское подданство. Татарские истЕрики этот эпизод всегда упоминают, когда речь идёт об "укреплении дружественных связей с Россией", но выводы можно сделать совсем иные - эти документы указывают на предательство татарских ханов, они предали шаха. Но вот когда отношения между Азербайджаном и Россией ухудшаются, вы кричите о каких-то "разделах" несуществовавшего никогда Азербайджана.

Это и отражает вашу подлую натуру - вы просто предали своего персидского падишаха, приняв российское подданство и хотя Россия ничем не была обязана продавшимся персидским чиновникам (ханам), русские всё же сохранили для них ряд определённых льгот.

[Ворон]

флаг тебе в руки и обегай захваченные территории (радости наглой тебе хоть отбавляй)......................... хорошо признал то, что они захвачены..................

это новый вариант, когда нету аргументов в дискуссии, после 20 минутных задумий такой глубокомысленный пост....

РЕСПЕКТ!!!

А чего не признавать то...нам ведь свое только нужно было- Арцах(карабах), чужого нам не надо... Мы же не виноваты, что азербайджанские аскеры думали что идут грабить и насиловать, а надоже...оказалось что нужно воевать ....Только пятки и сверкали... А мы что...нам лишний аргумент в прдстояших мирных переговорах лишним не показался... правда поспешить бы вам надо... Люди ж в палатках живут ..домов то им небось не строите...а мы вот нашим беженцам до сих пор строим.. возврашаться то некуда....так что и для радости наглой не повода нет...вот жалеть жалеем... как господь велел..

Как раз недавно и обегал..правда без флага....все там нормально...вот , кладбиша ваши не тронули (мы же не варвары какие ..или гунны...чтоб под бульдезор....)

Респект взаимный

[Sevak]

Hayer jan,

Mi xosqov hertakan apushik saiten berum, vreqnere kaifovat e kareli anel, baic vochte lurj zrucel.

HOB jan, im uzatcnel da e

[attillushka]

Ну я же говорил - висит уже эта херня на букилилюре.

то что тебе не по мозгам - конечно же херня. Иди ка лучше в дженерал писать всякую херню, десь тебе не место.

и радуется. Короче, молодев атилла, наш человек, в смысле на нас работаешь.

да и оплата идет, мани мани текут. Спасибо :lol:

Хес, ты как всегда на высоте, только на такие посты права и трейд марк у карабекяна, огромная цитата и какието нечленораздельные звуки.

Если нет ничего по теме, то ненависть можно и подругому высказать, например можешь поставить статуэтку азербайджанца, напиваться арменикума, заедая черной икрой мутантов из местности где атом-станция стоит и ругать ее на чем свет стоит. Для большего кайфа, можно ругать оптом, все вместе......... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Все эти ханы были вассалами персидского шаха, для утверждения на управлению какой-либо областью (ханством) требовалось специальное разрешение шаха - фирман, без которого даже наследный хан не мог перенять правление отца. Поэтому все эти ханы старательно вылизывали шаху пятки, дабы выклянчить столь нужный фирман.

да, а доблестные нахарары покупали в это время катюши для войны с персами, только где, секрет............. не скажу......

Иначе шах мог пнуть любого хана и утвердить на его месте другого, поначалу термин "хан" обозначал всего лишь назначаемую должность и только в середине 18-го века, с ослаблением центральной власти шаха окончательно сложилась наследственная форма ханского правления на определённой территории и они получили относительную самостоятельность во внутренних делах.

а это возе финиш. Ну просто нечего сказать, ты наверное на пороге универа не был никогда, и модераторство перешло по наследству....... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Да, и европейцы дураки, мы их обманули.......... вот так, и еще заплатили, и еще ядерным ударом пригрозили................. ребята, вы меня убили этими высокоинтелектуальными постами...........

[attillushka]

А по теме как всегда ничего..................................... кот так то господа академики

[Qeri]

attillushka, vi navernoe ne ponyali soobshenie ostavlennoe vam v sosednej teme?

Skopiryu ego dlya vas, eshe raz.

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КАК ВИДИМ ИТОГИ НЕ УТЕШИТЕЛЬНЫ. НИЧЕГО, Я ПРИВЫК, ДА И ВСЕ ВОКРУГ.

attillushka, krasnorechivij vi ne nash.

Itogi vas ne uteshili? Bednenkij.

Est` za chto pojalet`, nu vi ne perejivajte, sami ved` govorite, chto privikli.

S trudom privikali? Tak eto u vas ne ot rojdeniya?

Ne obessudte, pravdivij vi ne nash, ne vinosyat zdes` voni. Eto vam legko, vi uje privikli k svoemu zapaxu.

Poetomu, esli vas ne zatrudnit, okajete lubeznost`, vonyajte gde-nibud` v drugom meste.

Ne dogadivaetes`, pochemu eto ne kto ne xochet s vami govorit`?

Tak eto potomu chto, chem bolshe v vas koviryatsya, tem bolshe vonyaete.

Kogda predlagaete materiali k obsujdeniu, oni doljni bit` iz nezavisimix istochnikov,

a raznogo roda reklamnie akcii provodite, gde ugodno, no tolko ne u nas.

Nadeus` vi ponyali, pochemu, vashe prisutstvie tak vsem nepriyatno, kovarnij vi ne nash.

Chto vam neponyatno?

[Артём Карабекян]

А по теме как всегда ничего..................................... кот так то господа академики

Азя, тебя прёт, ты чего обкуренный? Или всегда такой? Опомнись, азя, ты серишь. И не пытайся строить хорошую мину при плохой игре, у тебя это не получается.

[HOB]

Мне эта фигня надоела.

Edited December 22, 2003 by HOB

[Соломон]

Поразительный человек, этот Аттилушка.-- Пытается других уверить в том, во что сам не верит!

[Babik]

Поразительный человек, этот Аттилушка.-- Пытается других уверить в том, во что сам не верит!

Почему поразительный Обычная тактика, убеждать других в том, что никогда не было правда не всегда она действуеть, т.е. никогда Особенно в этом старался с бакилярны /дурбалай

[attillushka]

Соломон джан (на азербайджанском слово джан означает ДУША - справка: по словам лингвиста-историка Ворошила Гукасяна в армянском 2000 заимствований из азербайджанского, а наоборот - 0), а ты с чего решил, что я пишу то, во что и сам не верю.... ?

Ты как сделал такой вывод?

Ей богу сгораю от любопытства!!!!!!!!!! )