Armenian Genocide

B Budapeshte budut "Azerbaijanskie dni" v 2006. Azeri budut govorit ob istorii (kak oni jili v Kavkaze 2 million god), ob Armjanskom terrorisme (kam vo vremya v poslednyax 90 godox etix 2 million godov armjane ubili 20 million Azerix), i togda li. Posmotrite www.blogian.hayastan.com (na angliyskom) dlya info.

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A War Without Weapons HETQ ONLINE [this seems to be a response to Karen's article in AZG daily - Nemesis] http://hetq.am/eng/ict/0512-az.html [December 12, 2005] “DiRecTor was here” or Muradik, or Alert - this are the notes that are usually left by Azerbaijani hackers after they break in yet again to Armenian websites (See photos). In contrast to Azerbaijanis, Armenian hackers don't leave such tracks. Armenian and Azerbaijani websites and Internet forums have been subjected to mutual attacks by hackers for a long time now. As a result of this undeclared war, or perhaps declared war, on the Internet, insulting messages, threats, and slogans appear on Armenian and Azerbaijani websites from time to time. These two-way exploits are actively discussed on the Azerbaijani http://forum.fox.az and the Armenian http://forum.hayastan.com sites where hackers encourage each other and congratulate their colleagues with yet another victory: “Bless you, dear Lazar,” etc… Those Armenian sites containing information about Armenian history, literature, and the Genocide are most often subject to attack. Last March Azerbaijani and Turkish slogans and insults appeared on web pages and forums dedicated to the Genocide after Azerbaijani hackers attacked the websites www.armenianhouse.org, www.genocde.ru, www.hayastan.com and www.artsakhworld.com. Azerbaijani hackers have also succeeded in breaking into the www.armnet.ru site. In response to this attack Armenian hackers destroyed several Azerbaijani internet sites and forums: www.training.az, www.pfmc.az/forum, www.aran.az, www.automarket.az/forum/, www.chat.az/.forum/, www.press.az./forum/, www.bazar.az/forum/, www.presscouncil.az/forum/. This year mutual attacks on each other's sites took place in February and March and throughout the summer months. If a site is not secure enough, attacks by Azerbaijani hackers can occur almost every week. The attacks are not always reactive—they can take the initiative as well. What takes place on the worldwide web seems more like attempts to satisfy the hackers' pride on both sides, since no serious disorienting information is being placed on line. Hackers limit themselves to celebrating victory and registering their nicknames on the site. “We view the attacks on the Armenian sites by Azerbaijani hackers as a means of self-affirmation in the eyes of world famous hackers,” Osman Gunduz, the president of the National Internet Forum of Azerbaijan, told the Azerbaijani daily Echo in an interview. “It's more like a competition – who can break into more sites, which site can earn more bragging rights vis-à-vis hacker colleagues. But there is of course, one aim, to do harm,” explained Samvel Martirosyan, manager of the portal www.OpenArmenia.com. Although the Criminal Code of Azerbaijan prohibits virus-attacks and illegal entry into information systems belonging to others, punishment is only in the form of fines. Chapter 24 of the Criminal Code of Armenia, “Crimes against computer information security,” a rticles 251-257, also prohibits unauthorized penetration into computer information systems, obliteration or changing information, i llegal appropriation of data from a computer or from the internet, and the manufacture, use, and dissemination of hazardous software. The Criminal Code of Armenia envisages for such crimes fines in the amount of 200 to 500 minimum salaries, or correctional labor for a term of up to one year, or imprisonment for a term of two to five years. According to information from the public relations department of the police no criminal proceedings have been instituted in Armenia since 2003 in accordance to Articles 251-257 of the Criminal Code. These articles have never in fact been applied in the any of the instances described above . It might have been possible to have some precedents if a hacker had broken into an Armenian, rather than an “enemy”, site. According to computer experts, the aim of the information war is not the liquidation of manpower but the destruction of differing views, goals, and social outlooks. Information wars are never declared and are never waged by accident. Today a multitude of ways of waging information wars have appeared. Among these are changing the content of e-mail messages, altering the information placed on the web, or placing incorrect information, or publishing information containing secrets, and so on. It is possible to distort the information on a site or alter its meaning. This approach implies a different strategy and reaches the limits of information warfare, since such actions are implemented in pursuit of a certain aim. This kind of distortion of information might even lead to numerous conflicts and threaten the security of a state in the real world. That is why a strong system of information security is an important prerequisite for winning an information war. Lena Nazaryan

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There is a great article at the website of the Institute for War and Peace Reporting published on 10 December 2005. It tells how the Armenians of a village in Azerbaijan, and the Azerbaijanis of a village in Armenia exchanged their villages during the conflict and they still take care of each others' graves. "When they exchanged their land, Kerkenj and Kzylshafak signed an agreement promising to look after the graves they were forced to leave behind. Though 16 years have now passed, that promise has been kept by both sides, and in Dyunashogh, the Muslim cemetery is as well cared for as the nearby Armenian Christian burial ground."

Hi Anti, I hope you understand English. I don't want to sound like I am victimizing the Armenians and demonizing the Azeris, but in the 1990s Azeris of Armenia and Yerevan were treated much differently than the Armenians of Baku, Sumgayit, etc. Fortunately, there was no need to protect the Azeris of Armenia. In this context, there was not much need of saving Azeris during the late 1980s and early 1990s in Yerevan. My family had many Azeri friends, and these people simply left for Russia and other countries without being physically harmed or threatened. There are still many Azeris in Yerevan... I know that Felix Aliyev (currently lives in Armenia and is a well-known coach) was guarded by his students everyday for security. But there had not been an attemp to harm him. So there are too many names to mention here for Mr. Aliyev only, but you can read his story at http://forum.hayastan.com/index.php?automo...intentry&eid=21 . In Khojalu there were only Armenian soldiers.... I admit civilians were killed and I regret it. I have the hope that one day there will be a memorial stone in the memory of the Azeris of Khojalu in Tsitsernakaberd, next to the Armenian genocide memorial. And I also hope, there will be memorials to the Armenian victims in Sumgayit and Baku one day. But there is long way to go, and the recognition of Nagorno Artsakh's independence is unavoidable.

segodnya uznal chto officialnaya imya parka, "Detskiy Park Arabkira." V "destkom parke" Arabkira est 4 kafe, drugie ne-detskie objekti, i seychas Petr I, kotoriy zamenil posledniy karusel "detskogo parka" Arabkira.... Nu i strana u nas....

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Mne segodnya skazali chto pamyatnik Petra I budet v meste edinogo karusela parka! Karusel snimali, i detyam nechego delat v parke gde tolko kafe, billiardanoc, i seychas Peter I. Ya na moyom bloge napisal bolshe ob etom (na angliyskom). Posmotrite zdes http://forum.hayastan.com/index.php?automo...og&blogid=2&st= - Nemesis

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Ne budu vazrajat' tebya "cavt tanem" no v etom est' prichina pochemu im vse ravno....potomu chto eto delo kajdogo cheloveka..kem emu bit' v etoi jizni, chem emu zanyat'sa, kak vesti sebya..i tomu podobnoe...a ne kak nashi armyani...vezde suyut svoi nos!!! i pitayutsa reshit' chujie problemi ←

Eshe kak! Bless God it's temporary!!! A ya toje ne znala kak k nim otnosit'sa do tex por poka ne poznakomilas' zdes' s odnim parnem, on gay...ya chestno xochu priznatsa, ya v jizni ne vstrechala dobroi dushi cheloveka, kak On! On mne rasskazal pochemu amerikanci tak dobrojelatel'ni k gomosexsualistam, i ne imeyut nichego protiv nix... potomu chto est' odno jivotnoe..(jalko ya ne zapomnila kak nazivaetsa)...ono vstupayet v svyaz kak s samcami tak i samkami...Vot oni rassujdayut tak; chto lyudi i jivotnie Boji sozdaniya...esli jivotnomu dano to lyudiyam toje eto svoistvenno!!! Vot tak vot!!! ←

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Karmir takoy nacionalizm ne kchecmu. V Kobayre est Gruzinskie nadpisi, i v polne voroyatno, eto Gruzinskim xram. V chem dela? Pochemu v Armenii ni doljni bit Gruzinskie xrami? Fakt, chto Armyanskaya arxitektura imela bolshuyu rol na Gruzinskoy arxitekture, i chto v Gruzii, mnogie Armyanskie xrami "stali" Gruzinskimi, ne oznachaet chto v Armenii netu Gruzinskie xrami. Tovorishe Gruzini. Nekotorie Armyanskie zemli bili pod Gruzii v nekotoroe vremya. Armyane schitali Gruzinom svoimi bratyami, i neskolko stoleti nazad, kogda u nix ne bila gasudarstvo posle tago kak Turki prishli v Armeniyu, i pered Turkami bilo nevozmojno jit, Armyane sprasili Gruzinskix carey vzyat siloy Armyanskie zemli chto bi Armyane mogli jit spokoyno. Odna primera gorod Ani. Mi blagadarni za pomosh. No eto ne oznachaet chto Gruzini doljni scehtayt Ani, Lori, i drugie Armyanskie zemli Gruzinskimi. Esli 45 merov (ot 47) Tbilisi bili Armyane, ne oznachaet chto Tbilisi Armyanskaya zemlya. Mi pomogli drug druga, vot i vse. Mi sasedi, i eto nasha sudba, nravitsya vam ili net, no mi vinujdani jit s drug drugom staletii ili tisyachaletii. Mir ne beliy i cherniy. Mi vse delaem oshibki. K sajalenyu, nacionalisti eto ne ponimayut.