Spezzatura

В 1994 году мой знакомый продал в Квартале 3-х комнатную (амен инчов) квартиру за 5 тысяч долларов. В эмиграцию с собой они взяли только хрусталь и фарфор. Вот в те годы у турок была отменная возможность за гроши гребануть в Армении все что приглянулось, a интеллигентные АОДовцы им бы ещё шах давали. Но к счастью для армян у турок афтафа вместо головы. Они избрали путь солидарности со своими незадачливыми шиитскими кузенами-мугамчи которых они 75 лет в глаза не видели. Теперь же когда на дворе 2009 год, кто и что им будет продавать ? Насчет примера грузин в Батуми, не знаю. У меня грузин-бизнесмен обычно асоциируется с евреем-шахтером...

Рассмотрим сценарий: стакан наполовину полный. Выйдет из спячки Гюмри Грузины снизят тарифы Появится возможность инвестировать в соседский leisure sector со стороны бизнесменов спюрка У растерзанных армянских церквей появится смотрящий, сдвинется с места вопрос реставрации. (Чтобы не повторялись турецкие через жопу эксперименты а ля восстановление Ахтамара.) Появится выход на Сирию/Ливан В следствии открытия границы многих ялбанцев прихватит язва желудка

До 300 миллионов китайцев имеют покупательскую способность. Остальные сидят у себя в Мухасрансках и гребут лапатой гавно в надежде заработать пару юаней. Те из китатайцев кто мог свалить заграницу гастарбайтерами, сделали это. Пашут от Тель-Авива до самых бакинских бульваров. Кому кроме американского потребителя ещё покупать произведенные в КНР товары ? Японцы и корейцы не знают кому сбагрить свое добро, а индийцы в ауте. Европейцев на китайской бормотухе не раскрутишь. Доны Педро из Латинской Америки тоже в пролёте. Так кто остался то ? Поэтому копать под американский доллар у китайцев резона ну соoooooоовсем нет.

Я почему-то думал что "интеллигентность" schtick - пардон май идиш - как средство диферинцации между разными лагерями кандитатов обанкротился после того как АОДовская тусовка проявила себя уже буду у власти. But hey, what do I know ?

Ещё если у армянских мужиков изменить их "здоровый" образ жизни, то всё вообще станет х'окей. А то у них: папирос, папирос, папирос, папирос, папирос, папирос, папирос, папирос, папирос, папирос, папирос сурдж, сурдж, сурдж, сурдж, сурдж, сурдж, сурдж, сурдж, сурдж, сурдж, сурдж, сурдж, сурдж, сурдж, охи, охи, охи, охи, охи, охи, охи, охи, охи, охи, охи, охи, охи, охи, охи, охи, охи, охи, охи, охи стресс, стресс, стресс, стресс, стресс, стресс, стресс, стресс, стресс, стресс, стресс, стресс П.С. BTW, where did you pick up irony in my tone ?

Интересно а с этим израильским членомером они не встречались ?

На прошлой неделе, накануне отъезда Обамы в Лондон для участия в саммите G-20, после которого он отправится в Турцию, представители Армянской Ассамблеи Америки (ААА) и Армянского Национального комитета Америки (АНКА) по приглашению Белого дома встретились с политическими советниками Обамы. остальное тут

Erdogan = bad cop Gul = good cop ? министр ИД Бадырджан = мастер по софт мугаму

At a Friday news conference in London, Erdogan said he had written to the Armenian president in 2005, suggesting that the question of whether a genocide occurred "be left to historians," but did not receive a reply. "The Armenian diaspora has an effort that it has been pursuing for years concerning a so-called genocide. For Turkey, it is impossible to accept a thing that does not exist," Erdogan said. He focused instead on Azerbaijan's Nagorno-Karabakh region, controlled by Armenia since a war that broke out in the waning days of the Soviet Union and ended in 1994. "As long as the Nagorno-Karabakh issue is not resolved, it is not possible for us to reach a healthy solution concerning Armenia," said Erdogan, who was attending a summit of leaders of the Group of 20 nations. "We have taken steps toward such a decision" to improve ties, the Turkish leader said. "We have made ourselves ready. We are also taking steps to prepare the region as a whole. We have talked to our Azeri friends, we are talking to Armenia." остальное тут

Не знаю где этому место, поэтому вешаю здесь. Особо улыбнул пассаж ниже... The ‘Path of Anatolia’ Visitors to the festival pay $10 admission and immediately upon entering the fairgrounds pass through the long "Path of Anatolia." Built and designed after careful consultation with art history professors, this road brings visitors down a path that boasts 11 archways with information about Hittite, Trojan, Urartu, Phrygian, Lydian, Ionian, Roman, Byzantine, Seljuk and Ottoman cultures. At each archway, there are two people to greet visitors dressed in those cultures' costumes. остальное тут

Aliyev may boycott İstanbul meeting over Armenia ties Azerbaijan has expressed concern at the prospect of the border between its old foe Armenia and Turkey being opened, with Azerbaijani news reports saying yesterday that Azerbaijani President İlham Aliyev will not attend a UN-backed Alliance of Civilizations meeting in İstanbul next week due to unease over the Turkish-Armenian rapprochement. Azerbaijan's Apa news agency said Aliyev decided not to attend the İstanbul gathering of world leaders, including US President Barack Obama. Turkish leaders, on the other hand, denied reports of an imminent deal between Turkey and Armenia in a bid to ease Baku's concerns. With growing signs of a thaw in relations between Turkey and Armenia after a century of hostility, the chances of Ankara opening the frontier it closed in 1993 have improved sharply. Turkey's closure of the 268-kilometer border had been in solidarity with Azerbaijan, which was fighting Armenian-backed separatists over the breakaway Nagorno-Karabakh region -- a festering conflict that remains unresolved. "If the border is opened before the withdrawal of Armenian troops from the occupied territories of Azerbaijan, it would run counter to Azerbaijan's national interests," Azerbaijani Foreign Minister Elmar Mammadyarov told Azerbaijan's ANS television. "We have conveyed this opinion to the Turkish leadership," he said, adding that Turkey accepted Azerbaijan's concerns. остальное тут

Муж мало зарабатывает Квартира маленькая Детей не с кем оставить Детей есть с кем оставить, но свекровь змея У мужа преподнятое настроение давно не наблюдалось Жена бесполдная Бла, бла, бла, бла

Этот интеллигентный парень Лёва и его не менее интеллигентные сподвижники по перманентной борьбе в 20-ю годовщину резни в Сумгаите где армянских женщин выбрасывали с балконов, а потом дожигали в кострах - устроил у оперы народные гуляния с Хавой Нагилой, израильскими флагами, бесплатными пиццой, Бжни и химическими туалетами. Вот такая вот жопа-новый-год...

Просто вылез в окно Неудавшийся убийца армянского политолога сбежал из тюрьмы В ереванской тюрьме 1 апреля не обошлось без происшествий. Из исправительного учреждения сбежал гражданин Грузии Аршак Агабабян (известный также как "Турок Аршак"), который отбывал наказание за попытку убийства армянского политолога. Заключенному не понадобилось изобретать какой-то изощренный план или использовать сложные технические устройства. Как теперь констатирует следствие, он "воспользовался халатностью сотрудников тюрьмы". Агабабян дождался, пока его направят на работы на тюремный склад, а затем, открыв металлическую решетку, вылез в окно. История с покушением на армянского политолога Левона Мелик-Шахназаряна весной 2008 года получила существенный резонанс как в Ереване, так и в Баку. Сам он предположил, что его убийство пытались организовать азербайджанские спецслужбы. Азербайджанскими СМИ в ответ было высказано мнение, что никакого покушения не было, а политолог, дескать, пытается сделать себе пиар на этом скандале. "Турок Аршак", как установило следствие, был одним из двух исполнителей готовившегося убийства. Агабабян, уроженец Армении, с конца 1980-х годов жил в Грузии и имел грузинское гражданство. В Грузии он познакомился с неким азербайджанцем по имени Ахан, который и предложил ему убить армянского политолога, пообещав в качестве награды 10 тысяч долларов. Заказчик мотивировал свою просьбу тем, что Мелик-Шахназарян часто выступал с критикой в адрес азербайджанского руководства, а также внутренней и внешней политики этой страны. Сам политолог позднее предположил, что поводом для недовольства в Азербайджане и возможным мотивом для убийства стали, в частности, его публикации о процедурных нарушениях при назначении Ильхама Алиева (ныне президента страны) главой правительства. Агабабян и его односельчанин - некий Герман Конджорян - согласились выполнить заказ. Получив аванс в размере 500 долларов, они прибыли в Армению. По словам Мелик-Шахназаряна, они долго готовились к убийству, изучали подступы к его дому в деревне Птгни и пути отступления. В итоге Конджорян решил застрелить свою жертву через окно, однако попытка не удалась. Пуля, выпущенная из пистолета, срикошетила от оконной решетки. Между тем неудавшиеся убийцы, как рассказал позднее политолог, были уверены, что выстрел достиг цели, и даже доложили об этом заказчику. Когда же выяснилось, что Мелик-Шахназарян жив, Агабабян и Конджорян стали звонить ему, требуя, чтобы он инсценировал свою смерть, сменил фамилию и прекратил выступления в прессе (а "убийцы", таким образом, могли бы получить с заказчика деньги). В случае отказа они угрожали расправиться с его семьей. Политолог записал телефонные разговоры с угрозами, а затем передал записи полиции. Позднее они стали одним из доказательств обвинения. Кстати, комментируя произошедшее, он предположил, что жизнь ему спасла не столько оконная решетка, сколько "коррупция во властных структурах Азербайджана". Как утверждает политолог, на его убийство были выделены большие деньги (откуда он получил эту информацию, неизвестно), однако значительная часть суммы разошлась не по назначению. Одного из исполнителей - Аршака Агабабяна - задержали в начале мая 2008 года на армяно-грузинской границе. Суд признал его виновным в покушении на убийство общественного деятеля, а также в незаконном хранении оружия, и приговорил к 12 годам тюрьмы. Его дело пересматривалось в апелляционном суде, однако в итоге он сбежал, не дождавшись окончания этого процесса. Его сообщник - Герман Конджорян - до сих пор находится в розыске. Поиски сбежавшего заключенного пока не принесли результатов. В связи с возможной угрозой для жизни семьи политолога полиция организовала круглосуточную охрану Левона Мелик-Шахназаряна и его близких. ссылка

Turkey and Armenia Pave Way for Historic Accords Neighbors' Bid to Open Border and Establish Ties Could Sideline Genocide Dispute, Improve Security for Fuel Pipeline to West By MARC CHAMPION BRUSSELS -- Turkey and Armenia could soon announce a deal aimed at reopening their border and restoring relations, according to diplomats, a move that could help stabilize a region that's increasingly important as a transit route for oil and gas. The timing of the deal is being choreographed with the schedule of U.S. President Barack Obama, who visits Turkey next week, these people say. The Turkish and Armenian governments have agreed on terms to open formal talks in three areas: opening and fixing borders, restoring diplomatic relations and setting up commissions to look at disputes, including one on the tense history between the two nations, according to the diplomats, all of whom declined to be named due to the sensitivity of the talks. There is strong opposition to a deal in both countries, as well as in Armenia's neighbor Azerbaijan. But an accord would be seen in Western capitals as a major potential success that could help to open up and stabilize the Caucasus. The region is studded with unresolved conflicts and hostile borders, and saw war between Russia and Georgia in August. Announcement of a Turkish-Armenian pact is also being influenced by Mr. Obama's campaign promise to support a Congressional resolution that would recognize as genocide the Ottoman Empire's 1915 killing of up to 1.5 million Armenians in what is now central and eastern Turkey. Turkey fiercely denies the killings were genocide. The White House traditionally makes a statement to mark Armenian Remembrance Day on April 24. Analysts say Turkey's government hopes progress in reviving its relations with Armenia could prompt the White House not to recognize the killings as genocide and to block the Congressional resolution. If the U.S. proceeds with the genocide resolution, "I cannot imagine any Turkish government opening the Armenian border," said Özgür Ünlühisarcikli, director of the Ankara office of the German Marshall Fund of the United States, a think tank. A Senior Turkish foreign-policy official said the U.S. is trying to facilitate the agreement with Armenia. Turkish and Armenian officials declined to comment on the status of their talks. Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey said on Turkish television last week he would discuss Nagorno-Karabakh, the Armenian "genocide" and relations between Russia and Georgia with the U.S. president, among other issues. One date under discussion for signing the deal with Armenia, diplomats say, is April 16. But Mr. Ünlühisarcikli said he believes Turkey and Armenia won't be ready to sign the deal before April 24, and Turkey instead will "signal" its commitment to reopen the borders in the hope that will be enough for Washington. остальное тут

Турки берут у них газ по $120 за куб. По брадски, так сказать. Ялбанцы резонно спрашивают: А хер вам не рыба ? Мы его можем продавать за $350 и ещё спасибо услышать. Бир милят конечно ики девлятом, но когда цена на нефть обвалилась на $100 и в бюджете зияет дыра, то уже не до брадских дисконтов.

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Bones of the missing By Sarah Rainsford Under armed guard, a team of excavators opened up a disused well shaft behind an abandoned roadside restaurant in south-eastern Turkey. They were searching for the remains of hundreds of civilians who disappeared at the height of the Kurdish separatist conflict in this region in the 1990s. Many were last seen with members of Turkey's security forces. For many Kurdish families, the dig marked the start of a long-stalled search for justice. More than 70 have now applied to local lawyers for help to find their relatives. "Our first demand is to find the bones of the missing," lawyer Abdulaziz Tokay explains. "But the most important thing is to identify those responsible for their disappearance and punish them." The dig at this site unearthed several bones and pieces of cloth. They have been sent for DNA testing while the search goes on. The Tanis family is one of many watching these unprecedented events closely. Eight years ago, Serdar Tanis had just opened a local branch of the pro-Kurdish HADEP party. On 25 January 2001, he was summoned to the regional gendarme base. Witnesses saw him enter the compound with a colleague, Ebubekir Deniz, before they both disappeared. For six days, staff at the base denied the politicians had ever been there. On the seventh day, they said the two had left to join separatist PKK insurgents in the mountains. "Serdar's only crime was to be district chairman of a perfectly legal political party," his brother Yakup says. "The Turkish state said there were no Kurds then, everyone was a Turk. But HADEP said: 'We exist and have rights.' The state saw that as a threat," he explains. Rifling through thick case files, the family's lawyer, Tahir Elci, pulls out what he says is a letter written by Serdar Tanis to Turkey's interior minister, days before he disappeared. In it, he said he had received death threats from the regional gendarme commander. The European Court of Human Rights found the letter, and other evidence, "credible and convincing". In 2005, it found Turkey guilty of violating Mr Tanis' and Mr Deniz's right to life. But in Turkey, the case has been blocked, says Mr Elci. "The serious problem in Turkey about human rights is impunity," he says. He estimates that more than 1,000 Kurds disappeared at the height of the conflict between the security forces and PKK rebels fighting for a separate Kurdish state. "It is impossible to touch the security forces for their crimes against civilians," Mr Elci says. "Many victims are still looking for justice." Public confession But something significant has just changed. Dozens of men are now on trial in Turkey, accused of forming an ultra-nationalist gang called Ergenekon and plotting to overthrow the government. For the first time, senior security officers are among the suspects - including many notorious to most Kurds. Lawyers here have petitioned prosecutors to expand the Ergenekon case and launch a proper investigation into the fate of the missing. There are already some clues. Just outside Silopi, a small circle of white stones in the middle of a field marks the spot where the body of Murat Aslan was found. He vanished in 1995, after witnesses saw him being forced into a car in the city of Diyarbakir by security forces. Years later, his father read the newspaper confession of a former informer for a shadowy branch of the gendarmes widely known as JITEM. The existence of JITEM has never been formally acknowledged. The informer, Abdulkadir Aygan, claimed JITEM tortured and burned Murat Aslan as a suspected PKK sympathiser. The informer gave the location of his grave, and claimed such practice was routine. He said JITEM felt untouchable. The Aslan family filed a court case, but the gendarme commander at the time ignored requests for a statement. The prosecutor never even drafted an indictment. Gendarme headquarters in Ankara declined a request to respond to allegations of abuses. But the unprecedented arrests in the Ergenekon trial have emboldened others to speak out. Adnan Ekmen was state minister for human rights when Turkey's fight against the PKK was at its fiercest. "The mentality here is this: if the existence of the state is at stake, illegal action is legitimate," he told the BBC. "There were dozens of unsolved killings then, thousands of human rights violations. But our ministry was merely symbolic. We were powerless." The Ergenekon case is vast - and still expanding - with new arrests and claims almost daily. Critics accuse the government of using the trial to punish opponents. But in the south-east, many Kurds are pinning high hopes on the case. "I think the Ergenekon trial is a great moment for Turkey, no matter where it leads," lawyer Abdulaziz Tokay says. "No-one would've thought a general could be tried in this country. It's a sign Turkey has taken a step towards the rule of law." Yakup Tanis tells me that since the excavations began, his family has received anonymous phone calls, warning them not to push too far. But he is determined to discover what happened to his brother - and to find him. "We want Turkey to finally confront that era," he says, a picture of Serdar propped against the wall beside him. "We want the people responsible for those crimes to be convicted." ссылка

MOSCOW (AFP) - - Russia's Gazprom said Friday it was in talks to buy gas from Azerbaijan in a move that could undermine attempts by European countries to diversify their sources of energy. State-controlled Gazprom and Azerbaijan's national energy company Socar signed a memorandum of understanding on gas sales from 2010, Gazprom said. The move could have implications for the strategic Nabucco gas pipeline project, an EU-backed initiative to pipe gas from Central Asia between Turkey and Austria from the Caspian Sea to western Europe. The route would bypass both Russia and Ukraine, whose poor relations have led to several cut-offs in European gas in recent years. Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan are the two possible suppliers of gas for the pipeline. But Tatiana Mitrova from the Energy Research Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences told Russia's Interfax news agency that the Nabucco pipeline risked ending up without a gas supplier. The deal announced Friday "shows that Azerbaijan understands the economic uncertainty of the Nabucco project and the risks linked to its transit route, the financial problems and construction delays," she was quoted as saying. The Nabucco project is regularly criticised by the Kremlin. Gazprom buys gas from Central Asia and resells it at higher prices to other countries, such as Russia's neighbour Ukraine. ссылка

Когда Акопыч просрет выборы мэра - which he will - he oughta try and run for a dogcatcher in, say, Чарбах. Главное это процесс, который позволяет оставатся в новостях.

A pro-Armenian U.S. lawmaker said Thursday that Congress is not likely to pass a bill recognizing the Armenian claims regarding the 1915 incidents in a bid to sooth Turkey's concerns. The resolution would not pass this year again, although there are high expectations this time as U.S. President Obama has promised to recognize the Armenian claims during election campaign, Republican congressman Mark Kirk, one of the four authors of the bill presented to the House of Representatives, told Turkey's Aksam daily. "The expectations are high this year, because President Obama gave an important promise to Armenians. But I think the situation is desperate," he said. "Speaker of the House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi will not dare pass the bill. She will not place Obama in a difficult position. The bill will not pass, don’t worry," he added. Kirk also told Aksam that if the promise given to Armenians is not fulfilled, Democrats may lose Congress elections in 2010. остальное тут

ISTANBUL - Azerbaijan's foreign minister expressed concern on Thursday at the prospect of the border being opened between Armenia and Turkey. "If the border is opened before the withdrawal of Armenian troops from the occupied territories of Azerbaijan, it would run counter to Azerbaijan's national interests," Reuters quoted Azeri Foreign Minister Elmar Mamedyarov as telling Azeri ANS television. Mamedyarov said Azerbaijan had conveyed its opinion on the issue to Ankara, adding Turkey accepted his country's concerns. остальное тут

Турции началось радиовещание на армянском языке. Как сообщает агентство Associated Press, первая программа вышла в эфир утром в четверг, 2 апреля. В получасовой выпуск, подготовленный Государственной телерадиовещательной компанией Турции, вошли новости, обзор культурных событий и музыка. В эфире было объявлено, что следующая трансляция состоится вечером того же дня. остальное тут

Надо пригласить Ким Гардашян в турне по Армении. Она так местных мужиков раскочегарит на подвиги что никакая виагра-шмиагра не понадобится.

В случае открытия границы, Турция может лишится ялбанского газа. Concerned that the Turkish government might open its border with Armenia before reconciliation is reached, the Azerbaijani government has signaled it might stop selling natural gas to Turkey. Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev told third parties that Baku would cut gas supplies to Turkey if Ankara reaches an agreement with Yerevan before substantial progress is underway on the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, the Hürriyet Daily News & Economic Review has learned. As a sign of how serious it is, Azerbaijan signed a memorandum of understanding with Russia last week for long-term supply of gas at market prices. Turkey and Armenia are said to have come very close to an agreement on the timetable to normalize relations. This development in turn has upset the Azerbaijani government, which argues a decision to open Turkey’s borders with Armenia would leave Baku at a disadvantage in negotiating for the withdrawal of Armenian troops from Azerbaijani territory. The ruling Justice and Development Party, or AKP, has been the target of severe criticism in the Azerbaijani press with commentators there accusing the Turkish government of selling out. The Turkish Foreign Ministry has been informed that Aliyev has told third parties that were Turkey to open its borders to Armenia, cooperation on energy supplies would end. остальное тут