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А осенью у нас дожди © Реалии на сегодня таковы что дети которых в голодные 90-е увозили из Еревана посадив на пол ТУ-134 приписанного МО России (по другому уехать возможности не представлялось), сегодня на вопрос когда они планируют вернутся - закатывают глаза. Типа, ребят, вы чё на солнце долго стояли ? С какого перепуга мы будем менять Москву на сонный Ереван ? И это говорят те чьи семьи по 2-3 поколения прожили в Ереване. А вы тут Кировабад от балды приплeли.

Robert Fisk: Will Obama honour pledge on genocide of Armenians ? It's all supposed to be about campaign promises. Didn't Barack Obama promise to deliver an address from a "Muslim capital" in his first 100 days? It's got to be in a safe, moderate country, of course, but where better than Mustafa Kemal Ataturk's secular/Islamist nation of Turkey, whose rulers talk to Syria as well as Israel, Iran as well as Iraq? But when the Obama cavalcade turned up in the heart of the old Ottoman Empire last night, he and all his panjandrums were praying that he did not have to use the "G" word. The "G" word ? Well, if it doesn't trip him up in Turkey today, Mr Obama is going to have to walk into a far worse minefield on 24 April when he has to honour another campaign promise: to call the 1915 massacre of 1,500,000 Armenian Christians by Ottoman Turkey a "genocide". Presidents Clinton and Bush jnr made the same pledge in return for Armenian votes, then broke their solemn promise when Turkish generals threatened to cut access to their airbases and major US-Turkish business deals after they were in office. This is no mere academic backwater into which Mr Obama must step but a dangerous confrontation with the truth of history, an explosive swamp of bones and old photographs – along with a few still-living survivors – through which he must either walk with dignity or retreat with shame; and the entire Middle East will be watching the results. For the Palestinians – most of whom, ironically, are Sunni Muslims, the same religion as the Ottoman Turkish murderers – it is a crucial issue. For if Mr Obama cannot risk offending America's Turkish allies about a 94-year-old persecution, what chance is there that he will risk offending America's even more powerful ally, Israel, by condemning the Israeli occupation of Palestinian land, the ever-growing illegal Jewish settlements on the West Bank and the constant destruction by Israel of Palestinian homes that prevent the creation of a Palestinian state? Starting on 24 April 1915, Enver Pasha's Turkish army and militias rounded up almost the entire Armenian community, massacred hundreds of thousands of men and sent vast death marches of women and children into the deserts of Anatolia and what is now northern Syria. Expert historians, including Israel's own top genocide academic, insist that the shooting-pits, the organised throat-cutting, the mass rapes and kidnappings – even the use of primitive suffocation chambers – all constituted a systematic genocide. And it is important to record exactly what Mr Obama said on his campaign website in January 2008. "The Armenian genocide is not an allegation, a personal opinion, or a point of view, but rather a widely documented fact supported by an overwhelming body of historical evidence. America deserves a leader who speaks truthfully about the Armenian genocide and responds forcefully to all genocides. I intend to be that president." Which pretty much locks up any attempt to wriggle out of the promise. Or so you would think. But already the administration's soft shoes have been trying to finesse away the pledge. "At this moment," Mike Hammer, a White House National Security Council spokesman, said last month, "our focus is on how, moving forward, the US can help Turkey and Armenia work together to come to terms with the past". That Mr Obama should allow such a statement to be made, along with the usual weasel clichés about "moving forward" and "coming to terms", speaks volumes. Neither the Palestinians nor the Arabs in general have tried to – or should – compare the 1915 slaughter with Israel's treatment of the Palestinians, but there are some faint historical mirrors which rightly worry them. The Turks allege that they began killing Armenians in the city of Van because Armenian insurgents, backed by a regional superpower, in this case, Tsarist Russia, attacked the Turks of eastern Anatolia. Israel claims it bombarded Gaza last December and January because Palestinian "terrorists", backed by a regional superpower – Iran – fired rockets at Israelis. The political parallels are not exact, of course, but Israel can in any case scarcely debate them when it officially refuses to acknowledge the Armenian genocide in the first place. But for Mr Obama, there are more pressing points. US and Turkish officials are already discussing how Ankara can help in a US military withdrawal from Iraq, and Mr Obama desperately wants Turkey to help open up the Muslim world to his government to staunch the massive wounds the Bush administration inflicted. ссылка

Right intentions but wrong dialect ISTANBUL - Whether by gaffe or by wily political maneuvering, the newly launched, state-run Armenian radio station is broadcasting in the Eastern Armenian dialect, which is incomprehensible to nearly everyone outside of Armenia. Officials were unaware and say they are now investigating Turkey’s new Armenian radio station launched by the state to serve the Armenian community in the country missed the mark by launching in a dialect that is incomprehensible to the local Armenians. The new radio station launched by the Turkish Radio and Television Corporation, or TRT, on April 2 is using the Eastern Armenian dialect in its broadcast, used mainly in Armenia. The rest of the world’s Armenian communities, including the one in Turkey, use Western Armenian, also called "Askharhapar." While the two dialects cannot be described as totally unintelligible to each other, different uses of the same words and accents make most communication between the speakers of the two dialects very problematic in the least. Western Armenian, developed of Istanbul origin, is considered the modern Armenian dialect in the Armenian world. Another factor illustrating the importance of Western Armenian is that the classics of Armenian literature have been written in it since the 19th century. Eastern Armenian is the official language of Armenia and is also spoken by the Armenians in Iran. The difference between the Western and Eastern Armenian dialects is one of the forthcoming subjects on the agenda of the newly founded Ministry of Diaspora of the Armenian Government. Turkey’s Chief Negotiator to the European Union Egemen Bağış expressed surprise at the situation last Friday night and said he will investigate. In a speech before an annual meeting on the European Union and Turkey, sponsored by daily Radikal and the Center for Economics and Foreign Policy Studies, Bağış defended the ruling party's outreach into state broadcasts in "local languages." The ruling Justice and Development Party, or AKP, seeks no political advantage with its new initiatives in Kurdish, Armenian and other languages other than "to create a better communication channel with all of our citizens," the chief negotiator said. When told most local Armenians did not understand the broadcasts, Bağış said: "I hadn't a clue. This is the first time I have heard this. Perhaps TRT could only find news presenters speaking this dialect, I just don't know. But I will look into it." One major problem faced by young Armenian Turks is their lack of proficiency in speaking their mother tongue even though most graduate from minority schools. Lack of proficiency also precludes them from following a radio station broadcast in a different dialect. While the government has initiated efforts for the establishment of Armenian language and literature departments at universities, the current lack of academic teaching at the university level has taken its toll on the development of the language. Some Armenian Turks tried to establish a private Armenian radio station a decade ago, with efforts led by journalist Hrant Dink, who was gunned down in 2007. Lack of funds prevented the establishment of the station. ’Target not own citizens’ While the Armenian Society of Turkey had abandoned hope of getting their own radio frequency; they were surprised with TRT’s Armenian broadcast. Etyen Mahçupyan, editor in chief of the weekly Agos newspaper, speaking to the Daily News, said: "This means Turkey’s target audience is Armenia, not their own citizens. This initiative is for supporting the foreign policies of Turkey; therefore, it is not sincere. It bears thought that Turkey makes such an initiative without trying to find out what its own citizens need." Mıgırdiç Margosyan, a world famous Armenian writer, said he agreed with Mahçupyan and added, "What is being done is unfair; this broadcast is not addressed to us." Pakrad Öztukyan, an editor for Agos, indicated that the Armenians of Turkey cannot understand or speak Western Armenian. "I do not know of TRT’s broadcasting policy. If the target audience is Armenia, broadcasting in Eastern Armenian is the right decision," Öztukyan said. ссылка

Erdogan Again Links Turkish-Armenian Ties to Karabakh Deal A deal between Armenian and Turkey which would normalize relations and reopen borders will have to wait until Armenia and Azerbaijan first settle the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan told a news conference late on Wednesday. "The Azerbaijan-Armenian dispute should be resolved first. Then, problems between Turkey and Armenia can be solved, too," Erdogan told a news conference late on Wednesday. Erdogan's remarks come amid growing pressure from Azerbaijan, which has been increasingly vocal in its opposition to the opening of the Turkish Armenian border. "We hope the U.N. Security Council takes a decision naming Armenia as occupier in Nagorno-Karabakh and calling for a withdrawal from the region. This is a process the Minsk Group... could not succeed in for 17 years. We hope this trio will accomplish that," he said, according to Reuters news agency. The OSCE Minsk group -- set up in 1992 and co-chaired by Russia, the United States and France -- is seeking a solution to Nagorno-Karabakh, one of the most intractable conflicts arising from the Soviet Union's collapse. There has been no progress. Erdogan said Ankara had already taken a step and proposed to form the Caucasian Stability and Cooperation Platform with the participation of Turkey, Russia, Azerbaijan, Armenia and Georgia. A Karabakh settlement was until recently one of Turkey's main preconditions for establishing diplomatic relations and reopening its border with Armenia which it had closed in 1993 out of solidarity with Azerbaijan. Turkey had also hinged relations on an end to international efforts to recognize the Armenian Genocide. The Turkish government appeared ready to drop that linkage when it embarked on an unprecedented dialogue with Yerevan last year. After months of intensive negotiations the two sides have come close to normalizing bilateral ties. Recent reports in the Turkish and Western press said a relevant Turkish-Armenian agreement could be signed this month. However, Erdogan poured cold water on those reports late last week when he stated that Turkey cannot reach a “healthy solution concerning Armenia” as long as the Karabakh conflict remains unresolved. Armenian Foreign Minister Eduard Nalbandian denounced the statement as an attempt to scuttle the Turkish-Armenian dialogue. It is not clear if Nalbandian raised the matter with Turkish Foreign Minister Ali Babacan when he visited Istanbul earlier this week. The two ministers held a brief meeting there with U.S. President Barack Obama, who pressed Ankara and Yerevan to complete talks aimed at restoring diplomatic ties between the two neighbors during a two-day visit to Turkey. Obama also stressed the importance of Turkish-Armenian reconciliation, a major U.S. policy goal in the region, in an ensuing phone conversation with Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev. Senior Azerbaijani officials have expressed serious concern at the possible breakthrough in Turkish-Armenian ties, saying that it would weaken Baku's position in the Karabakh conflict. “It would be painfully damaging to the Turkey-Azerbaijan brotherhood and to the ideas of Turkic solidarity,” the political parties represented in Azerbaijan's parliament said this week in a statement reported by the APA news agency. “With its policy [Turkey's governing] Justice and Development Party is stabbing Azerbaijan in the back,” Vahid Ahmedov, a pro-government member of the parliament, was reported to say on Wednesday. The Turkish newspaper “Today's Zaman” reported on Thursday that Turkey's President Abdullah Gul will visit Baku soon to discuss the Azerbaijani concerns with Aliev. Citing an unnamed Turkish government official, the paper said that the Turkish-Armenian border will likely remain closed at least until October. “Ankara will use the time until November to ease Azerbaijan's concerns,” it said. In Armenia, meanwhile, there are growing calls for official Yerevan to halt negotiations with Ankara if they do not lead to an agreement soon. “If Turkey suddenly succumbs to Azerbaijan's threats and these negotiations yield no results soon, then I think the Armenian side will not carry on with them,” Giro Manoyan, a senior member of the influential Armenian Revolutionary Federation, told reporters on Wednesday. “The negotiations can be deemed failed if they don't produce quick results.” Manoyan called on the Armenian foreign ministry to be more vocal in expressing Armenia's official position, adding that Armenia's silence has allowed Turkey to speak on its behalf. Former Foreign Minister Vartan Oskanian took a similar view in an interview with RFE/RL earlier this week. “I believe the ball is on the Turkish court today,” he said. “Turkey should overcome its dilemma and open the border. Or else, Armenia should call a halt to this process.” Any agreement between Turkey and Armenia on normalizing relations cannot come at the expense of future generations or the Armenian nation's collective national interests, said ARF Bureau member Dr. Viken Hovsepian Monday during a live interview on Horizon 180 on Monday. “It is unacceptable for us that any agreement--be that the border opening or normalizing relations--contain concessions that will impact future generations,” said Hovsepian. Hurriyet revealed late Thursday that Azerbaijan had sent an envoy to Ankara with a set of demands Yerevan must meet before Baku gives its consent for the opening of the Turkish-Armenian border. The preconditions require Armenia to cede control of the liberated districts surrounding the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic and allow for the creation of a Turkish-Azeri land corridor through the southern part of the strategic region of Kashatagh (Lachin), linking Armenia and Karabakh. ссылка

Ильюша А. жжёт не по децки Azerbaijan sent an envoy recently to Ankara to explain the government’s views on the reconciliation process between Yerevan and Ankara, which closed its borders with Armenia in 1993 after Armenian forces occupied Azerbaijani territory. According to the envoy, Azerbaijan insists on three conditions to give its green light to opening the borders: * Armenia should withdraw from five of the seven regions surrounding Nagorno-Karabakh, which are Agdam, Fizuli, Jabrayil, Zangilan and Qubadli. * The return of the southern portion of the Lachin corridor. * The use by Turkey of the Lachin corridor. The Lachin corridor connects Nagorno-Karabakh to Armenia. By enabling Turkey to also use the Lachin corridor, Azerbaijan wants to have direct land access to Turkey. The envoy is said to have voiced concern about being left out of the talks between Armenia and Turkey. остальное тут

Эрдоган до сих пор кипит что ему пришлось первым протянуть руку Сетракичу во время парада на Красной Площади. Жопшник-исламист ещё тот, между прочим.

Средне взятый житель Еревана открывает утром глаза и начинает думать: А получится ли у меня сегодня совершить революционную прогулку вниз и в верх по Севермому проспекту ? Интересно а в какой манде была его революционность когда до миллиона самых что не на есть бник хаястанци стали беженцами в собственой стране в блаженные годы правления интеллигентных ребят из АОД ?

Интересная фотка. Барух Хусейн встретился с религиозными лидерами. Гранд Муфти Стамбула справа, главный рэбэ Стамбула слева. Армянский патриарх на диване. При всем при том что армян там раза в 3 больше чем евреев. И армяне жили в Полисе задолго до того как турки знали ху из евреи или с чем их есть.

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У Ирландской Республиканской Армии был интересный профилактический метод работы со своими местными харощи тхэрк. За первое открытие движения те получали пулю в коленную чашку. Причем стреляли уложив их таблом в землю, со спины с тем чтобы раздробить кость. Если же харощи тха и после этого не воспринимал месидж, то в следующий раз получал свинец уже промеж глаз.

Azerbaijan Seeks To Thwart Turkish-Armenian Rapprochement Senior Azerbaijani officials have reacted with anger and threats to media reports that Turkey will soon sign a landmark protocol with Armenia paving the way to the establishment of formal diplomatic ties and the opening of the two countries' shared border. Baku has long insisted that any such formal agreement by Turkey on closer relations with Armenia should be contingent on key concessions by the latter on the terms for a solution of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. Azerbaijan's President Ilham Aliyev, who assured the Turkish parliament last November that "today Turkish-Azerbaijani unity is a stabilizing factor in the region," was quoted by the Turkish daily "Hurriyet" as threatening on April 1 to suspend natural-gas exports to Turkey, a threat tantamount to cutting off his nose to spite his face in light of the fall in world oil prices to half the $80 per barrel on which Azerbaijan's state budget expenditure for 2009 was predicated. Then on April 6, "Hurriyet" confirmed a report published two days earlier in the online daily zerkalo.az that Aliyev has cancelled his participation in the NATO Dialogue of Civilizations conference in Istanbul on April 6-7, despite efforts by Turkish President Abdullah Gul and the U.S. State Department to persuade him to attend. Baku's anger derives in large part from the perception that it has been stabbed in the back by the country that it has, despite periodic disagreements, long regarded as its closest ally, partner, and protector. That perception is rooted partly in the very close ethnic and linguistic ties between the two states, and partly in their close cooperation over the past 15 years in the export to Western markets of Azerbaijan's Caspian oil and gas. (Both main export pipelines run via Georgia to Turkey.) In addition, Ankara has provided guidance and advice to the Azerbaijani military. But most crucially of all, it has until now unequivocally backed Azerbaijan's hard-line position with regard to resolving the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, pegging any real rapprochement with Armenia to a solution of that conflict on Azerbaijan's terms. Azerbaijani Foreign Minister Elmar Mammadyarov was quoted as telling journalists in Tbilisi on April 2 that if Turkey does not insist as a condition for opening the border that Armenia first withdraw its troops from at least some of the seven districts of Azerbaijan they currently occupy contiguous to the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh republic, "this would be detrimental to Azerbaijan's national interests." Informed analysts have identified as one of the reasons why Ankara has responded positively to repeated overtures over the past two years by Armenian President Serzh Sarkisian frustration that Turkish foreign policy was being held hostage by Azerbaijan's unyielding position with regard to the Karabakh conflict. On April 5, Interfax circulated a question-and-answer with Armenian Foreign Minister Eduard Nalbandian, who said that "the normalization of Armenian-Turkish relations should have no preconditions, and it is with this mutual understanding that we have been negotiating with the Turkish side. Normalization of relations has no linkage to the resolution of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict." On April 6, however, "Hurriyet" reported, quoting unnamed "reliable sources," that the Turkish-Armenian draft protocol contains the wording "sufficient progress on the resolution of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict is required before the opening of the [Turkish-Armenian] border," and that President Aliyev is seeking clarification of what precisely is meant by "sufficient progress." The Azerbaijani presidential administration told RFE/RL's Azerbaijani Service on April 6 they have no idea what the "Hurriyet" article was referring to. But as of mid-afternoon Baku time on April 6, Aliyev had not left for Istanbul. Speculation that Azerbaijan is out to thwart the signing of the anticipated Turkish-Armenian protocol was fuelled by the unexpected visit to Baku on April 3 by U.S. Assistant Deputy Secretary of State Matthew Bryza for talks with President Aliyev and Foreign Minister Mammadyarov. Bryza was quoted as telling journalists on his arrival that Washington believes that "the positive changes in the region, that is achieving results in resolving the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict and the warming in Turkish-Armenian relations, should proceed parallel with one another." Bryza also reaffirmed the prediction made in late February by Ambassador Bernard Fassier, the French co-chairman of the OSCE Minsk Group that seeks to mediate a solution to the Karabakh conflict, that President Aliyev is likely to meet with his Armenian counterpart Serzh Sarkisian on the sidelines of the EU summit in Prague on May 7-8. When that time frame was first made public, it seemed probable that the meeting between the two presidents was intended to finalize the so-called Basic Principles for resolving the conflict that have been on the table for the past three years. During their talks in Moscow in early November with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, Aliyev and Sarkisian reaffirmed their shared commitment to reaching a solution to the conflict that would reflect those principles. Bryza, who is the U.S. Minsk Group co-chairman, told RFE/RL in late January that the co-chairs were hoping that the Basic Principles would be signed in early summer, possibly in June. The Basic Principles entail a withdrawal of Armenian forces from five of the seven occupied Azerbaijani districts; "special arrangements" are to be instituted for the strategic Lachin Corridor that links the NKR with the Republic of Armenia, and for the district of Kelbacar that similarly lies between them. Bryza's estimated time frame for the signing of the Basic Principles may, however, be derailed if Azerbaijan continues either to try to pressure Turkey, or to insist on a separate agreement on the withdrawal of Armenian forces as a preliminary to endorsing (or not) the remaining Basic Principles. Not that Aliyev has any real leverage he could bring to bear. Speculation that Azerbaijan might withdraw its support for the planned Nabucco export pipeline for Caspian gas (from which Turkey would derive considerable profit in transit fees) and opt instead for the planned White Stream pipeline (the brainchild of Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko, it would run across the Black Sea bed from the Georgian terminal at Supsa to a Ukrainian port) seems far-fetched, although it cannot be ruled out completely. The Georgian government signed a memorandum of mutual understanding on April 3 with the White Stream Pipeline Company in which the two sides affirmed their commitment to that project, Caucasus Press reported. ссылка

Another issue that confronts all democracies as they move to the future is how we deal with the past. The United States is still working through some of our own darker periods in our history. Facing the Washington Monument that I spoke of is a memorial of Abraham Lincoln, the man who freed those who were enslaved even after Washington led our Revolution. Our country still struggles with the legacies of slavery and segregation, the past treatment of Native Americans. Human endeavor is by its nature imperfect. History is often tragic, but unresolved, it can be a heavy weight. Each country must work through its past. And reckoning with the past can help us seize a better future. I know there's strong views in this chamber about the terrible events of 1915. And while there's been a good deal of commentary about my views, it's really about how the Turkish and Armenian people deal with the past. And the best way forward for the Turkish and Armenian people is a process that works through the past in a way that is honest, open and constructive. We've already seen historic and courageous steps taken by Turkish and Armenian leaders. These contacts hold out the promise of a new day. An open border would return the Turkish and Armenian people to a peaceful and prosperous coexistence that would serve both of your nations. So I want you to know that the United States strongly supports the full normalization of relations between Turkey and Armenia. It is a cause worth working towards. It speaks to Turkey's leadership that you are poised to be the only country in the region to have normal and peaceful relations with all the South Caucasus nations. And to advance that peace, you can play a constructive role in helping to resolve the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, which has continued for far too long. ссылка

Obama urges Turkish, Armenian FMs to complete normalization talks ISTANBUL - U.S. President Barack Obama urged the foreign ministers of Turkey and Armenia during a meeting late Monday to complete talks aimed at restoring ties between the two neighbors. Obama delivered his message personally to Turkish Foreign Minister Ali Babacan and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian when he met them at a reception in Istanbul for guests attending an international forum promoting understanding between the Western and Islamic worlds. "On the margins of tonight's Alliance of Civilizations dinner, the president met the foreign ministers of Turkey, Armenia and Switzerland to commend their efforts toward Turkish-Armenian normalization and to urge them to complete an agreement with dispatch," a senior U.S. official was quoted by Reuters as telling reporters in Istanbul. ссылка

Пару лет назад в китайском зоопарке решили скрестить 2 панд. Но у тех друг к другу не малейшего интереса не оказалось. Китайцы долго думали что делать и наконец решили поставить в загон к животным телевизор по которому видак 24/7 крутит панда-порно. Я чуть от смеха не помер

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Armenia: Nagorno-Karabakh not part of Turkey talks In a statement likely to further increase Azerbaijan’s concerns about a possible Turkish-Armenian rapprochement, Armenia has said ongoing talks to normalize relations with neighboring Turkey have no links to its conflict with Azerbaijan over the Nagorno-Karabakh region. “The normalization of relations has no connection to the resolution of the Nagorno-Karabakh problem and has never been a subject of negotiations toward the normalization of Armenian-Turkish relations,” Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian said in a statement released on Sunday. The statement was a response to Turkish leaders’ recent remarks that progress in talks on the normalization of relations with Armenia also depended on progress on the Nagorno-Karabakh issue. ссылка

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Иран заинтересован "принять участие в карабахском урегулировании" со времен шушинской операции. Газпром будет скупать у Ильюши газ с тем чтобы похерить первый и единственный мотиватор для Запада разводить канитель с проектом Наибуко. При чем тут долгосрочные стратегические застрелы ? Россия ведь предложила Ильюше пешком постоять когда он через неё хотел освежить боекомплекты для Смерчей. Кто же так через хобот настоящих стратегических партнеров перебрасывает ?

Алиев отменил полет в Стамбул Президент Азербайджана Ильхам Алиев отменил намечавшийся визит в Турцию для участия в работе двухдневного саммита «Диалог цивилизаций» под эгидой ООН, который сегодня завершится в Стамбуле. Эксперты связывают это с позицией Анкары в отношении Армении: накануне высокопоставленные чиновники в Баку заявили, что, если Турция откроет свою границу с Арменией, Азербайджан ответит адекватными мерами и даже может перекрыть идущую к соседям газовую трубу. Азербайджанская делегация представлена на форуме на уровне главы Госкомитета по работе с религиозными структурами Идаята Оруджева. Данный саммит посвящен вопросу укрепления и развития межкультурного взаимопонимания, и в его работе принимают участие президенты, премьер-министры и главы МИДов около 30 государств. Поэтому отправку в Стамбул госчиновника на уровне руководителя госкомитета некоторые аналитики поспешили квалифицировать как политический демарш. Между тем Баку воздерживается от обнародования официальной версии случившегося, а посол Турции в Азербайджане Хулуси Кылыч, по сути, признав факт отмены Ильхамом Алиевым визита в Стамбул, заявил накануне, что воздерживается комментировать решение президента. «Могу просто сказать, что готовилась программа в связи с планирующимся визитом президента Азербайджана в Турцию», – заявил журналистам турецкий дипломат. В отсутствие официальной информации местные газеты предположили, что главной причиной отмены визита стала просочившаяся в печать информация о намерении Анкары в ближайшие дни открыть границу с Арменией, которую Турция закрыла в 90-е годы из-за карабахского конфликта и оккупации Арменией 20% территории Азербайджана. В частности, влиятельное американское издание Wall Street Journal недавно назвало даже дату – 16 апреля. Правда, турецкие дипломаты и в Вашингтоне, и в Анкаре предпочли воздержаться от конкретики, подтверждая только определенный прогресс на переговорах с официальным Ереваном по нормализации отношений между двумя странами. Следует заметить, что Баку в принципе не против нормализации отношений между Анкарой и Ереваном, но его настораживает перспектива открытия границы между двумя странами, которая в том числе будет использована для усиления военной мощи Армении, тогда переговорный процесс по урегулированию армяно-азербайджанского конфликта может зайти в тупик. Именно по этой причине в последние дни официальный Баку устами спикера парламента Октая Асадова и министра иностранных дел Эльмара Мамедъярова напоминал Турции об обещаниях не открывать границы с Арменией до урегулирования конфликта вокруг Нагорного Карабаха. Дело приняло такой оборот, что отреагировать на ситуацию пришлось руководителям Турции. «Уже больше 17 лет США, Россия и Франция в составе Минской группы пытаются решить проблему, существующую между Азербайджаном и Арменией. До тех пор, пока не разрешен нагорнокарабахский конфликт, мы не сможем принять рационального решения в отношениях с Арменией», – заявил турецкий премьер-министр Реджеп Тайип Эрдоган на пресс-конференции в Лондоне. По его словам, на нынешнем этапе готовится фундамент отношений с Арменией, предпринимаются шаги в этом направлении. «Мы пытаемся подготовить к этим отношениям и себя, и весь регион», – заметил Эрдоган. Вслед за ним успокоить Баку взялся и президент Турции Абдулла Гюль, который заметил, что информация американского издания Wall Street Journal, а также других периодических изданий не соответствует действительности. Так оно или нет, станет известно после завершения визита в Турцию президента США Барака Обамы, администрация которого оказывает давление на Анкару, требуя нормализовать отношения с Арменией, подразумевающего открытие границы с этой страной. ссылка

Визит Обамы в Турцию: расширенный контекст Ричард Гирагосян Сегодняшняя встреча Барак Обама – Абдулла Гюль рассматривается в Армении сквозь призму открытия границы и признания Геноцида. Между тем, в контексте широкой перспективы национальных интересов США, Турция и сегодня входит в орбиту особой стратегической значимости - по трем основным причинам. Во-первых, администрация Обамы признает за Турцией роль восстанавливающего свое значение регионального игрока, обладающего влиянием и доступом в широком смысле слова на Ближний Восток, в Черноморский регион и на Кавказ. В этом смысле Белый дом стремится использовать Турцию в качестве рычага в посреднических усилиях между Сирией и Израилем, и возможно, даже между Афганистаном и Пакистаном. Вашингтон учитывает также новую роль Турции в поддержке американской позиции по Ирану. Во-вторых, после августовской войны в Грузии Соединенные Штаты особенно нуждаются в стабильности и безопасности в регионе Южного Кавказа. С точки зрения американских интересов возможный прорыв в армяно-турецких отношениях, выгоды от открытия границы и по меньшей мере нормальные дипломатические отношения между Анкарой и Ереваном являются действенной возможностью для обеспечения более устойчивой региональной стабильности. В-третьих, сотрудничество США с Турцией является настоятельным требованием в контексте военных нужд в Ираке и даже Афганистане, поскольку в обоих случаях Турция является важнейшим центром материально-технического обеспечения военных операций. В свете такого расширенного подхода вопросы Геноцида армян и даже Кипра выглядят проблемами второстепенной важности. Между тем, по мере того, как аура визита Обамы в Турцию начнет блекнуть, ограничивающие американо-турецкие отношения факторы будут вырисовываться все четче и предстанут даже более важными. Неизбежная ограниченность роли Турции в реализации стратегических планов США коренится как раз-таки в обратной стороне тех самых трех приведенных выше факторов. Прежде всего, привлекательность последних усилий Турции, направленных на подтверждение своей роли на Ближнем Востоке, в Черноморском регионе и на Кавказе, не имеет ровным счетом никакого значения – это преимущественно турецкая инициатива, основанная на турецких интересах и не рассчитанная на одобрение или поддержку со стороны США или Евросоюза. Фактически сегодня имеются четкие доказательства обратного, если вспомнить осуждение турецкими лидерами действий Израиля в секторе Газа, что привело к жестким ограничениям действий НАТО в Черном море. Более того, стало ясно, что турецкие инициативы на Кавказе более созвучны интересам России, нежели целям США. А судя по последним шагам Турции – как, к примеру, приглашение в страну лидеров Ирана и Судана – маловероятно, что Анкара будет так уж озабочена проблемой поддержки внешнеполитической повестки Вашингтона – вне зависимости от степени симпатий к Обаме (или его супруге). Второе. Турция была единственным членом НАТО, которая сохранила нейтральную позицию в ходе войны между Россией и Грузией и, по сути дела, сузила возможности кораблей НАТО достичь берегов Грузии во время кризиса, что также демонстрирует большую близость к России, нежели к Вашингтону. Турция не только объявила о своей «Платформе стабильности и сотрудничества на Кавказе» без предварительного уведомления США (или НАТО), но даже воздержалась от поддержки Вашингтона, пытавшегося получить статус «наблюдателя» в Организации Черноморского экономического сотрудничества (ОЧЭС). Наконец, третье. В свете турецкого восприятия угрозы, связанной с активизацией курдов на севере Ирака – единственного реального союзника американцев в Ираке – помощь или поддержка Турцией военной операции США в Ираке в любой прямой или скрытой форме выглядит нереальной. Скорее, вопросы Ирака и курдов имеют тенденцию оставаться главным препятствием развития военного сотрудничества между США и Турцией в ближайшее время. И хотя визит Обамы может рассматриваться как событие важное и символическое, интересы Турции и США вероятнее всего разойдутся по мере сближения позиций Турции и России. Реалистичность подобного расклада подтверждается также тем обстоятельством, что в действительности бремя открытия границы лежит не на Ереване или Вашингтоне, а именно на Анкаре. В силу этих причин кажется маловероятным, что президент Обама 24 апреля нынешнего года внятно выскажется в пользу признания Геноцида. Вне зависимости от спекуляций на тему «использует – не использует» Обама слово «геноцид», американо-турецкие отношения в ближайшие месяцы будут не ослаблять, а реально содействовать выполнению предвыборных обещаний Обамы относительно четкого и однозначного признания Геноцида армян. ссылка

Late arrival signals Armenia discontent ISTANBUL - The lingering mystery about the Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian’s attendance at the Alliance of Civilizations summit has been revealed as potential evidence of Yerevan’s discontent over the Turkish prime minister’s recent statements on Nagorno-Karabakh. After hours of contradictory reports about the possible cancellation of his trip, Nalbandian finally came to İstanbul late afternoon. Although Nalbandian’s attendance at the summit was confirmed and announced 10 days ago, his last-minute decision not to board a flight from Yerevan on Sunday as expected called this into question. Nalbandian’s strong language in his statements to Interfax news Sunday, denying that the Karabakh issue is not related to establishing relations between Turkey and Armenia, were interpreted as a reaction to Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan’s statements on Friday, providing a basis for the reason to delay his trip to Turkey. Turkey will not lift its blockade on Armenia unless the country fulfils Turkey’s preconditions regarding the Karabakh issue and the international recognition of the Armenian claims regarding the 1915 incidents, Erdogan said in London Friday during the G20 summit. Recalling the United Nations resolution to describe the situation in Karabakh as occupation, Erdoğan said: "Then there is a need to lift the occupation first so that we can take our steps comfortably. Otherwise we would do wrong to our brothers in Azerbaijan." In a counter move, Nalbandian on Sunday said: "The establishment of Armenian-Turkish relations should be realized without any preconditions. The establishment of relations is not related to the resolution of the Karabagh issue." The Armenian Foreign Ministry released Nalbandian's response just before cancellation of the flight to Istanbul on Sunday night. Just as the news reached Ankara, the Turkish Foreign Ministry took action to ease the Armenian side’s discomfort. Ministry spokesman Burak Özügergin made a statement to the Anatolia news agency late Sunday praising talks between Ankara and Yerevan. "There have been developments in the talks for normalization of relations between Turkey and Armenia. We wish that this would help stability and peace in the region and contribute to the solution of the conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia," Özügergin said. Following Sunday’s distress, Armenian officials said Nalbandian’s trip was canceled early Monday, while Turkish Foreign Ministry sources insisted he would arrive in Turkey as planned. After hours of inarticulate and confusing messages, the Daily News learned that Nalbandian would arrive in Istanbul Monday afternoon and only attend the reception and dinner hosted by President Abdullah Gül. Sources confirmed that Nalbandian skipped other meetings that he initially intended to attend at the Alliance of Civilizations summit. But they declined to comment on whether this change in Nalbandian’s decision was due to Erdoğan’s recent statements. Agreement The director of Armenian Center for National and International Studies Richard Giragosian said this recent tension between the two countries would postpone an agreement prior to April 24 commemorations of 1915 events. "While the theatrics of diplomacy are nothing new, we are reaching a historic stage in Turkish-Armenian relations, with an agreement seemingly very close. But I am doubtful that any breakthrough will be reached this month, as the pressure from the April 24 statement by President Obama, and moves by the U.S. Congress to consider a bill recognizing the Armenian genocide, suggest that it may be more prudent to wait until emotions abate on both sides," he said told the Daily News. Meanwhile Ankara’s efforts to persuade Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev to attend the summit failed despite phone calls from President Gül, Prime Minister Erdoğan and U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. The Azerbaijani side has abruptly canceled their participation in the summit upon reports that Ankara is readying to open land borders with Armenia. ссылка

Turkey-Armenia peace focus of Barack Obama ANKARA - US President Barack Obama adopts a tactful approach while dealing with the sensitive matter of the events that occurred around 1915 when many people died. ’My views are on the record, and I have not changed those views. What I have been very encouraged by is news that under President Gül's leadership you are seeing a series of negotiations, a process in place between Armenia and Turkey to resolve a host of issues,’ he says. The language to define the Ottoman-era killings of Armenians should be the task of Turks and Armenians, U.S. President Barack Obama said yesterday in Parliament language that skirted the emotional word "genocide." The question of labeling history came up first in Obama's news conference with counterpart Abdullah Gül, in response to a query noting his well-known campaign promise to support a U.S. congressional resolution that would do just that. Obama responded that his views "have not changed," but he then noted the ongoing progress that both Turkey and Armenia have made in recent months toward reconciliation and offered effusive praise for this example. "My views are on the record, and I have not changed those views. What I have been very encouraged by is news that under President Gül's leadership you are seeing a series of negotiations, a process in place between Armenia and Turkey to resolve a whole host of long standing issues including this one," Obama told a joint news conference at the Çankaya presidential palace. The U.S. leader stressed to "not focus on my views right now but focus on the views of the Turkish and Armenian people" when he was insistently asked if he changed his views. He urged the world to encourage the ongoing peace talks between Turkey and Armenia. Later addressing Parliament, as if sensing the hypersensitivity to the topic, Obama said, "I know there are strong feelings on this issue in the chamber." There he used the term "the events of 1915" and went on to describe America's own troubled history, including slavery and the sufferings of Native Americans. All countries, he said in language likely to fall short of what many Armenians in the United States are demanding to hear, must come to terms their history. During his election campaign, Obama had pledged to recognize the Armenian claims, a move Turkey saw as a risk that will poison bilateral relations with the United States as well as ongoing efforts for reconciliation between Ankara and Yerevan. Turkish and Armenian officials have been holding high-level talks for a while to normalize ties, and the two sides are close to announcing a deal aimed at reopening their border and restoring relations, it was reported earlier. The announcement of the deal could give Turkey an upper hand in the run-up to April 24, a commemoration day by Armenians for the 1915 killings, for which U.S. presidents issue letters of respect that have so far refrained from including the word "genocide." "I want to be as encouraging as possible around those negotiations, which could bear fruit very quickly, very soon," Obama told the news conference with the Turkish president. That statement was seen as a strong indicator of major progress in Turkish-Armenian ties, showing that Turkish officials briefed Obama about the rapprochement plan. For his part, Gül reiterated the Turkish government’s proposal to set up a joint committee of historians to study genocide allegations and highlighted that parliamentarians or politicians should not make decisions about history. ссылка

Сегодня и в последующие дни стоит ожидать большой поток дэзы. Как с турецкой стороны, так и со стороны апшеронских мугамчи. Я где приличную инфу нарою, буду кидать сюда.

Armenian foreign minister to visit Turkey as relations warm ISTANBUL - Armenia's foreign minister will visit Turkey this week, the Interfax news agency reported Sunday, in the latest sign of a warming in relations between the two countries after decades of broken ties. Armenian Foreign Minister Eduard Nalbandian begins a two-day visit on Monday to attend a United Nation's cultural forum in Istanbul, the news agency said, citing the foreign ministry in Yerevan. продолжение пях пяха тут

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