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Chingiz, ya znayu ab etom kamenalomne, i eto kanechno ne xarasho... No ya xachu a drugom. prosto abidno kak turki predstavlyayut istoriyu Ani. Nikti ne gavarit chto eto drevnaya Armyanskaya stalica, a na nadpisyax tolko to, chto eto xristianskiye cerkvi... Avot chto pishet Briatannica pra istoriyu etovo goroda... "Ani ancient city site in extreme eastern Turkey. Ani lies east of Kars and along the Arpaçay (Akhuryan) River, which forms the border with Armenia to the east. Situated along a major east-west caravan route, Ani first rose to prominence in the 5th century AD and had become a flourishing town by the time Ashot III the Merciful (reigned 952–977), the Bagratid king of Armenia, transferred his capital there from Kars in 961. Thus began a golden age for the city, which was beautified under two subsequent Bagratid rulers. The many churches built there during this period included some of the finest examples of medieval architecture. With a peak population of about 100,000 by the early 11th century, Ani was larger than any European city and rivaled Baghdad, Cairo, and Constantinople in its size and magnificence. It remained the chief city of Armenia until Mongol raids in the 13th century and a devastating earthquake in 1319 sent it into an irreparable decline. Eventually the site was abandoned. The handful of surviving churches and the remnants of the city walls attest to the extraordinary quality of Armenian stonework during the Middle Ages. The modern Turkish village of Ocakli is nearby".

Daragiye mayi armyanskiye druzyan. Panyatno chto nam eta chepuxa ne nravitsya. No predstavte sebe, nravitsya li gruzinam to, kagda nekotoriye nashi armyani gavaryat chto Djavaxq armyanskiy, Bolnis armyanskiy, Trapizon armyanskiy.... eto tozhe chepuxa, tak chto, lozh est lozh. nadeyus chto polse etovo nekotoriye iz nas nemnogo padumayut pered tem kak gavarit a Djavaxqe ili Bolnise...

Da ti chto!!!!!!!! v gadosti nekto s vami ne mozhet sapernichat, ti svaix xarasho ne znayesh... ya kagda to bil v day.az, i tebe nado bilo pasmatret kak tvayi sarodichi sebya veli posle ubiystva armyanskovo aficera v Budapeshte. Ani vse takiye gadosti nesli, takoye ashusheniya chto ne narod a kuchka galavarezov.... idi i pasmatri etot vash forum, u tebya volosi dibom vstanut...

Karmi jan, qez inch exav???????? intelektual aselov yes nkati unem ir background-@, inq@ vorpes mard bavakanin zargatsats e, yes nkati chunem ir korrupt linel@ or something else... haskanum eq, mardik dasvum en intelektualneri, normal mardik, ev i tsne apushneri, voronc voch mi phox, voch mi TV () el chi prki..... haskacar um nkati unem....

patamu chto on sebya inagda chinichno vedyot... a tak, ne takoy uzh plaxoy i ne takoy uzh xaroshiy.... bivayet luchshe, no bivayet i xuzhe!

vot zdes ti ne prav. va pervix, on Gyumri ne vastanavil. Eto bili ne yevo dengi. A va vtarix, Gyumri pragalasaval imenno za Kochariana, pa maim raschyotam galasa razdelilis na 65/35 polzu Kochariana. Gyumri schital, chto vsyo-taki president tozhe polzu prinyos Gyumri, i eto ne tolko zasluga Kirkoriana...

ne bespakoysya, ti prava....

yesli dabit skazhem 5 millionov ton v god, to kanechno zapasi vam na 200 let xvatit No ne zabivay, malenkiy chelavek, chto vi xatite 50 millionov v god, tak-chto bolshe 20 let ne pratinite.... i eshyo, budte nemnogo progresivnoy, pachemu vi xatite bit vtarasortnim neftyanim gasudarstvom? ne raduytes na neft! neft eto gryaz! i Kaspiyu pagubite, i vash socialniy stroy v dabavku! vam kazhetsya bez nefti nelzya? yest li neft u vashevo druga Turcii? a na schyot Gruziyi, Armeiyi... uzhe let 8 neft kachayte, no eshyo ne dastigli pakazatelya Armenii pa GDP na dushu nasileniya... kak skazal nash drug gruzinskiy minister ekanomiki, neft, eto nichto, yevo ochen mnogo, a vot yesli chevo i ne xvatayet, eto ne neft, eto savsem drugoye!!!

Ok guys. yesli mi xatim chtob president bil intelektualom, to spisok ochen karotkiy. Vot spisok intelektualov, katoriye magli bi i presidentom rabotat: Vazgen Manukyan Vartan Oskanyan David Harutounyan Levon Ter Petrosyan Armen Sargsyan u nas yest i drugiye intelektuali, skazhem kak Tigran Torosyan, no on yavno ne mozhet bit presidentom yest eshyo i takiye narmalniye varianti, ne-intelektuali, nu vsyo zhe boleye-meneye kampetentniye figuri Artashes Toumanyan Raffi Hovannisyan Armen Darbinyan Arthur Baghdasaryan Robert kocharyan Gurgen Arsenyan i eshyo, daragiye druzya, ne gavarite bolshe ab Tigrana Karapetyane, at etix zvukov mne uzhe tashnit. Kagda ya yevo vizhu, srazu xochetsya emigrirovat iz Armenii. kstati, ya xachu yemu kastyum padarit, ato u nevo kastyum na tri razmera bolshe...

tak znachit ti yevo pargarami smotrish? A posle etovo u tebya prablemi s nervami ne payavilis?

Kanstituciya izmenitsya, no Kocharianu eto ne pazvolit na 3-iy srok izbiratsya, eto van me Azerbaijan kakoy nebud, ili Turkmenistan... A vot spisok lyudey imeyushix samiy balshoy shans na uspex: Arthur Baghdasarian yesli Europe budet reshat etot vapros David Harutyunyan, ?????? Raffi Hovhanisyan, yesli USA Armen Roustamyan, ???? Artashes Geghamyan, yesli Rossia akanchatelno abnagleyet President budet adin iz etix

blin kak je eti turkmeni vse taki DOSTALI!!! Dastali kanechno, no nuzhno priznat chto ani v etom vaprose maladci. Ani prishli iz Altaya v Turan, patom perebralis v Kavkaz i v maluyu aziyu, zaxvatili ray zemnoy, patom atdali nazad to chto ne bilo nuzhnim, i astavili sebe to chto stalo dlya nix rodinoy.... ya seychas v Belgrade, vse eqskursiyi pra turok, kak ani zavayevali Balkani. Dlya turok davolno geroicheskiy moment mezhdu prochim... Mi zhe svayim Tigranom zavayevatelem xvastayemsya... Kilikiyu lyubim, xatya nam i ne prenadlezhal ranshe. predstav, mi bi astalis v Kilikiye, i seychas imeli tam armyanskoye gasudrstvo... Bilo bi nam stidno at etovo? kanechno net, mi bi gardilis.... tak vot i turki gardyatsya... a lozh, eto vezde yest...

pa raschyotam OON-a, k 2050 gadu naseleniye Rossiyi sastavit 90 milionov chelaek i budet naverno na 14-15 meste v mire pa kalichestvu naseleniya... plyus ekanamicheskaya astalost. Seychas Rossiya imeyet pachti 2 raza bolshe VVP (GDP) na dushu naseleniye, pa sravneniyu s Kitayom... a cherez 40-50 let eto budet naaborot, i tagda obshiy Rossiyskiy VVP sastavit tolko 2-3 pracenta Kitayskovo VVP. Seychas etot pakazatel 20 pracentov.... nichevo sebe rasklad sil....

quote=Avshar,Sep 19 2004, 11:56] inchi es thurqakan nick vercrel? phoxi eli.....

da.............. stranniye veshi praisxodyat... Visit Kochariana v Poland, padpisaniye dagavora a armyanskix mirotvorcev v sastave Polskoy armii, yezhednevniy visis kakix to officerov is NATO-vskix stran. Otmena uchenii NATO iz za armyan... takoye kazalos naverno nevarayatnim 2-3 mesyaca nazad... I patom eshyo kakoye-to sblizheniye Azerbaijana s Rosiyi.....

Знаете что интересно? скажем в Америке, ест много армянских историков и общественных деятелей. каgда читаешь что ани пишут, видно что люди используют сваый маzgи и дают правильную картину, и самое главное не талкают американские интереси. А каgда читаешь многих из наших из России, то там сплашной рассийский втарасортный дурман. Ничево армянсково не сахранилось, делают всё для немитой России. Вот скажем, для Америки Турцiя очень важна, а все amerikanskiye-aрмяни там аткрыто критикуют власт за близост с Турции. может ли такое бит в случае с российскими армянами? вот Грузия нам очень нужна, а наши руссо-армянские "patrioti" анти-грузинские вещи гаварят. Можете себе представит армянина из Америки, если даже он работает на Буша, каторий гаварит что геноцида не было? Это всё из за таво. что люди на Западе могут бит oбeктивной, а в феодальной России этово бит не может. хатя если Буш на втарой срок астанется, в Америке тоже ничево oбeктивново не астанется...

eh, Simon jan, gavarish pechalnoye.... vi xatya mozhete restavrirovat... a chto mi, armyani, mozhem sdelat nashimi razvalinami v Turcii...? U nas yest adin shvedskiy drug, on letom v Ani bil, paslala photo.... prosto dusha plachet, raznica za 10 let ochen balshoye... vsyo razrushayetsya, a to chto turki restavriruyut, tam vse kresti i armyanskiye nadpisi uzhe styorti.

Mne kazhetsya eto cerkov Bagrata v Kutaisi ne paxozh na 10-iy vek.... chustvuyetsya aramat 12-veka.... xatya ya tolko lyubitel v etom vaprose...

Isk amenahetaqrqir@ ayn e, vor mek el tesar karox e asen: voch evropaci enq, voch el asiatsi, menq hay enq

Mamikon, a mi gatovo bili 200-300 kvadratnix kilometrov atdat za Ani, ne paluchilos. eti turki-seljuki panimayut kakaya sila v nashix xristianskix svitin. A vabshe, kagda ya bil rebyonkom, let 11-12 ya plakal iz za Ani. Ya videl Ani perviy raz naverno kagda bilo 10 let. U nas znakomiye bili v prigranacnoy zoni, i mi xadili tudda i smatreli iz binoklya. Ya pomnyu kak moy ded plakal. On bil is Karsa...

Simon, ti sam znayesh chto posle Tigrana mi eshyo hadolgo bili paliticheskoy siloy. I yeshyoo ti zabil pra Bagratuni. I yeshyo, ti savsem zabil pra Kilikiyu. ne kazhdiy narod mozhet emigrirovat iz zaxvachenoy rodini i sazdat ghasudarstva i prastayat 300 let! tak chto, drug moy, mi, armayni tozhe ne iz samix paslednix. i vabshe davay ne kankurirovat.

Privet. Simon, ti vsyo taki ne asudil viskazivaniya etix gruzin, gavarish info ne abyektivnaya. No pachemu ti s nami ne xochesh vashu versiyu razdelit. Skazhi, chto pa vashemu tam sluchilos? Aks. ne nachinay apyat pra Dgavaxq. Yesli nekotoriye gruzini idioti, eto ne znachit chto me dalzhni Dgavaxq prisayedinit k Armenii. Nam nuzhno gruzinskim armyanam zashishat inimi sposobami. OK?

kak ani tolko pasmeli!!!!!!!!!! Putin zhe yasno skazal - nekakix pravakici, a to vsex teroristami budem schitat! ya nagleye viskazivaniye ne slishal....

sorry????????????